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    No worries mate, happens to the best of us sometimes.

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    Went full retard, tested this on Sisi with Damnation running armour and skirmish links, and LG slaves iirc. Truely a crash-course in importance of range-control and ZOMG push all the buttans!

    [Cynabal, plate and reps?!]

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    Small Energy Neutralizer II
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
    10MN Afterburner II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Warp Disruptor II

    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II

    Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Warrior II x5


    Didn't die though.

    It's almost the dps and buffer of a regular cyna, especially those with a cap booster or dual prop, but it can also tank 1/HACs/draeks.

    Might want claymore & LG snakes, or 2 boosting T3s and then IDK which local implants, probably snakes still.
    Hey, not everyone can manage that 100mn Ab shield one, or afford officer web fitted machs.
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    I flew one of these in vipers, Although I didn't do your weird mixy gun thing with Nk in his armour mach and guardian.

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    I ask again, why not mix such similar guns?
    And if you want weird fits, god damn that guardian pulled off some stunts.
    You might have flown an armour Cyna, but I'd be stunned if it was an active-tanked one back by billions of nigh-untouchable isk as I'm suggesting here. And I wasn't mad to suggest the 100mn AB on it either back then, was I. WAS I?!
    It must be said, Darth Fett is/was the king of w-space active-tanked armour machs. But that's for another thread, and I'm noticing suddenly popular after Fon's vid.
    Last edited by Daneel Trevize; March 30 2012 at 09:27:44 PM.

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    Hmm.....

    [Cynabal, Cynabal - 1600mm RT]

    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    50W Infectious Power System Malfunction

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Stasis Webifier II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Warp Disruptor II

    Small Armor Repairer II
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Damage Control II
    Gyrostabilizer II

    Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


    Hammerhead II x5

    526 | 581 DPS w/ RF EMP @ 1.5+18km
    38.6k EHP [27.5k armor EHP]
    1886 | 2686 m/s
    4.56s align
    Needs 2% grid implant



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    Last edited by OrangeAfroMan; April 3 2012 at 11:19:01 AM.
    Actually an '06.

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    OAM: I don't really see the point tbh. A bog-standard nanoCane has significantly more dps and EHP, while being only slightly slower and less agile. Plus, its, uh, really really cheap. An armor Cane is significantly slower, but also significantly tankier and significantly cheaper. Both have twice the neuting power. What exactly are you trying to do with it? I'm just not sure what you are trying to accomplish running it like that (although its impressive how friggen fast a Cyna is even with those plates and rigs).

    At the very least, you should not be cheap and use an unstable neut and not 50w

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    Unstable is basically the same as 50W

    I have another fit I want to try for this, but its mainly for hunting Tengus.

    Nano canes don't have dual webs, only a little more EHP, and in my view significantly worse speed and agility. The neut is just for frig defence, though it could mess up a Tengu a bit.
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    Planning to try this out while taking advantage of Loki links. How does it look?

    [Cynabal, 100MN AB]
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner
    Warp Disruptor II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II

    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Small Energy Neutralizer II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

    I'll just be running straight Loki links, though I may invest in some LG Snakes and Damage implants in the future.

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    Caps out, dies. Full retard active tanked + injector or bust. Seriously though, people put dualprop regular AB and/or cap injector on the thing for a reason, if you've buffer tanked it.

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    how this has got to 6 pages, i will never understand
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    OP ship is OP, has too many options that are viable in at least 1 niche. Dramiel down, Cynabal and Mach to go (from the Angels line at least)

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    Yeah instead of buffing unused ships into usability, we should just nerf things into the ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Dramiel down, Cynabal and Mach to go (from the Angels line at least)
    .... not really, its still leagues ahead of the worm and curor, significantly better than the succubus and about on par with a daredevil.
    So now you cant fit 200s+rockets and put out 250+ DPS, still enough room for dualprop and gank fit, just drop to 150s (cant fit a neut though).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Verybad View Post
    Yeah instead of buffing unused ships into usability, we should just nerf things into the ground
    You're a fan of power creep I take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    how this has got to 6 pages, i will never understand
    how you continue to be such a cocksucker, I will never understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intigo View Post

    how you continue to be such a cocksucker, I will never understand
    I know one way...
    Blah blah tapatalk
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    has too many options that are viable in at
    This is not a bad thing more ships should be like it

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    Fair enough, but while they're not, this thing is OP.

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    And proably will be untill teiricide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    And proably will be untill teiricide
    I don't see how tiericide is going help if you think the Cynabal is OP. Even being optimistic and thinking every cruiser is going to be as useful as the Rupture.

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