Prometheus (quasi-prequel to Alien)

[Tyrehl]

In the cinema, movie starting in a min. Im alone btw, couldn't wait for my faggy friends anymore.

[Pattern]

A man's got to do what a man's got to do.

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[ValorousBob]

I thought the movie was good, but I was mildly annoyed by all the vagueness and bullshit. The story also felt very incomplete, there wasn't really any closure or explanations for anything.

[Perry]

Evil Corporation sends spaceship to Moon LV-something to look for Aliens. One Crewman is an Android and really evil. They find and explore a wrecked ship. Inside there are tall aliens and lots of egg-things. One Crewman gets killed by some shit. Then everyone else except one badass woman gets brutally slaughtered. No one knows where that shit came from and why.

Okay, done rewatching Alien. Whats this new movie about?

[Varcaus]

Evil Corporation sends spaceship to Moon LV-something to look for Aliens. One Crewman is an Android and really evil. They find and explore a wrecked ship. Inside there are tall aliens and lots of egg-things. One Crewman gets killed by some shit. Then everyone else except one badass woman gets brutally slaughtered. No one knows where that shit came from and why.

Okay, done rewatching Alien. Whats this new movie about?

v0v

[Caol]

Evil Corporation sends spaceship to Moon LV-something to look for Aliens. One Crewman is an Android and really evil. They find and explore a wrecked ship. Inside there are tall aliens and lots of egg-things. One Crewman gets killed by some shit. Then everyone else except one badass woman gets brutally slaughtered. No one knows where that shit came from and why.

Okay, done rewatching Alien. Whats this new movie about?

you seen it already, trailer looks great

[ctrlchris]

BRUCE SNR REVIEW INC

Very good, as good as the first alien was in 1979
3d was good.
Was fully good in imax the subs were cool, the whole place shook when the ships landed and that made it more gooder.

The film transcended into 4d via the arsehole behind who kicked the chair anytime something scary happened.

Was very rippley and clear potential for another

BRUCE SNR REVIEW OVER.

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ADDITION TO BRUCE SNR REVIEW

Its not a plot hole, your missing the big picture

(bruce jnr does not understand this as he has not seen it)

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[F18]

I just had a thought.

Even though they claimed that Noomi Rapace wasn't to be a new Rippley and their characters would share only a few similarities, it's quite clear that she is the new fucking Rippley and that apart from their backgrounds(truck driver v archaeologist), the charachters are very similar.
Yes, I'm probably stating the obvious but I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread yet. I'd also like to state that I have no problem with her picking up that role. I like her and I think she played it well.

Also, I wan't to go and see it again, but this time in IMAX 3D. It's the only way to be sure.

[indeterminacy]

Evil Corporation sends spaceship to Moon LV-something to look for Aliens. One Crewman is an Android and really evil. They find and explore a wrecked ship. Inside there are tall aliens and lots of egg-things. One Crewman gets killed by some shit. Then everyone else except one badass woman gets brutally slaughtered. No one knows where that shit came from and why.

Okay, done rewatching Alien. Whats this new movie about?

Lol, you should try watching the movie next time.

[Pattern]

I just had a thought.

Even though they claimed that Noomi Rapace wasn't to be a new Rippley and their characters would share only a few similarities, it's quite clear that she is the new fucking Rippley and that apart from their backgrounds(truck driver v archaeologist), the charachters are very similar.
Yes, I'm probably stating the obvious but I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread yet. I'd also like to state that I have no problem with her picking up that role. I like her and I think she played it well.

Also, I wan't to go and see it again, but this time in IMAX 3D. It's the only way to be sure.

Personality wise, Rippley and Shaw couldn't be any different. I mean, could you see rippley being all married, god fearing and curious? Wouldn't ripply run perpendicular to a horse shoe shaped spaceship falling on her head?


Also, this thread is an example of why Scott is a genius. He trolled us all, well played sir.

[F18]

Married, no. God fearing, no. Curious, possibly. The point I'm trying to make is that when we are introduced to both charachters, they are very naive, quite fragile and very feminine.
Everything changes after they have the shit scared out of them by a space monster. A new aspect of their personality emerges, one that has not lost any of it's femeninity but will fight to the bitter end and act seemingly on impulse or instinct, not just to survive, but annihilate said space monsters.

[Pattern]

Married, no. God fearing, no. Curious, possibly. The point I'm trying to make is that when we are introduced to both charachters, they are very naive, quite fragile and very feminine.
Everything changes after they have the shit scared out of them by a space monster. A new aspect of their personality emerges, one that has not lost any of it's femeninity but will fight to the bitter end and act seemingly on impulse or instinct, not just to survive, but annihilate said space monsters.

I almost agree but the last point is the reason why they are fundamental different. Rippley "Nuke them all, ask questions later" vs Shaws... (well spoilers)

[filingo]

http://www.fxguide.com/fxguidetv/fxg...ual-breakdown/

[Xiang Jiao]

I just had a thought.

Even though they claimed that Noomi Rapace wasn't to be a new Rippley and their characters would share only a few similarities, it's quite clear that she is the new fucking Rippley and that apart from their backgrounds(truck driver v archaeologist), the charachters are very similar.
Yes, I'm probably stating the obvious but I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread yet. I'd also like to state that I have no problem with her picking up that role. I like her and I think she played it well.

Also, I wan't to go and see it again, but this time in IMAX 3D. It's the only way to be sure.

Personality wise, Rippley and Shaw couldn't be any different. I mean, could you see rippley being all married, god fearing and curious? Wouldn't ripply run perpendicular to a horse shoe shaped spaceship falling on her head?


Also, this thread is an example of why Scott is a genius. He trolled us all, well played sir.

Ripley had one child although it's not explored whether she was adopted, cloned, artificially or immaculately inseminated. We can probably assume she had a mate who stayed on Earth with her daughter while she worked away from home. By the way, she was a communications officer, not a truck driver - at least before she lost her commercial flight status in Aliens, the punitive action for detonating the engines of the freighter in the first film. She does come across as very xenophobic. Many other characters, including both androids, are curious about studying the aliens. Perhaps it's not the aliens that she hates the most, but her fellow Weyland-Yutani employees' motives in using the aliens to further their scientific research. See Carter Burke in Aliens and how Ripley mistrusts him. The aliens are depicted as animals with no complicated emotions such as remorse, and Ripley treats them with the same regard. It will be interesting to see how the characters in Prometheus react in similar circumstances.

That said, I should probably unsubscribe from this thread before Prometheus becomes spoiled for me.

[BlackHelmetMango]

Ok I saw this movie today and it was pretty good.

  Spoiler:

Some of this might be completely fucking wrong but its my guess of things, I also haven't read through the thread.

- The guy who kills himself at the start of the film, if he is on Earth accidentally creates the human race? Seems to give a reason for the engineers to want them gone.
I think the planet isn't earth, and ultimatly it doesn't really even matter what planet it is. What is shows is that they're willing to sacrifice themselves to create. If you remember, the revived Engineer doesn't go batshit crazy until after he's told "yo dude, we want to be immortal". Considering these dudes have such a heavy relevence on sacrifice (from the creationalist goo to the aliens themselves requiring hosts), it may even make sense that it boarderd on sacrilige.

One of the other theories I've heard is that the goo itself is a failed experiment, resulting in basically advances in an organism but making it a bajillion times more hostile. The worms, turning into the bigger nastier worms, Engineers turning into Humans which are probably more aggressive then Engineers were originally (see any big guns and shit on those ships?), as well as the total hostility that is the xenomorph. Its probably more likely that the xenomorphs were made as a solution to the Aggressive Human Problem.

- I guess its established that the planet is a bioweapon research/storage place for the engineers?
Pretty much. I thought it would've been kind of more cool if it was a weapon disposal place, but theres really no evidence to support it.

- Seemingly the race of aliens create these research planets on barren worlds all over the place, like the one on the planet in Alien but create different weapons on each place?
I assume so, though not sure. They stated there was multiple ships on the planet, and it IS the planet that Alien 1/2 is based on as well. if future R&D Development occured or the new alien that emerges from the Engineer at the end is just mad geneticist and they evolve into the aliens. However, if there are other ships on the planet, it begs the questions of what happened to them and what happened to the original outbreak that occured on the ship being investigated. (did it spread, die out, hop planet, etc)

- The alien at the end was the first ever evolution of the aliens in the original film? I think I remember someone saying in either Alien or Aliens that the aliens have evolved to be the perfect predators (or maybe it was in a AVP game not sure). The reason this kind of makes sense to me is cause the original squid was some huge impractical thing and then when it impregnated the engineer the result was a better form of alien.
I think its important to remember that the Engineer wasn't implanted by your run-of-the-mill hugger out of a pot, but rather some weird arse human alien hybrid, mixed with Engineer. Although we share the same DNA, *some* things have to be different to attribute their size and strength. (Hormonal additives, etc maybe?)

- The only thing that doesn't make sense is the alien carving thing on the wall at some point.
Agreed, unless they'd already modeled that as the apperance if a facehugger (or gigantic person cuddler in the movie) successfully implanted in a human, as opposed to the weird round-about-way the Engineer alien was created.

[Gesadt]

it IS the planet that Alien 1/2 is based on as well.

nop different planet.
prometheus - LV-223
alien1/2 - LV 426

[BlackHelmetMango]

huh, no shit? So same system then?

[Pattern]

Wasn't it a moon?

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[Tyrehl]

Both orbital bodies seem to be moons of the same gas giant. There is some conflicting information though. Distance from Earth to LV-223 = 34.64011428209031 light years, travel time - 2 years. Earth -> LV-426 travel time = twice as much (if i remember correctly). Obviously FTL travel was used, we can speculate if it was possible to build a twice as efficient propulsion system in ~100 years.
Another thing that I found interesting - at first I thought that they are toying with the theory of relativity and time dilation. 2 'Ship years', ~35 Earth years (if they travel just at sub-lightspeed). Yeah but in Alien Ripley wants to go back before her daughter's 11 birthday or something. So that crosses out the whole "time dilation" theory.

Edit: Im using just rough estimates, I dont feel like calculating shit at the moment.

[definatelynotKKassandra]

Both orbital bodies seem to be moons of the same gas giant. There is some conflicting information though. Distance from Earth to LV-223 = 34.64011428209031 light years, travel time - 2 years. Earth -> LV-426 travel time = twice as much (if i remember correctly). Obviously FTL travel was used, we can speculate if it was possible to build a twice as efficient propulsion system in ~100 years.
Another thing that I found interesting - at first I thought that they are toying with the theory of relativity and time dilation. 2 'Ship years', ~35 Earth years (if they travel just at sub-lightspeed). Yeah but in Alien Ripley wants to go back before her daughter's 11 birthday or something. So that crosses out the whole "time dilation" theory.

Edit: Im using just rough estimates, I dont feel like calculating shit at the moment.

This is something that's not worth worrying about, since none of it makes any sense. Example: in Aliens, they can expect a rescue in 17 days (17 days? I don't wanna rain on your parade, but we're not gonna last 17 hours! etc etc). So travel time from wherever Colonial Marine ships hang out to LV426 is less than 17 days. In which case, why do they need hypersleep/hibernation? Conclusion - it's not consistent, so don't worry about it.