As somebody who hasn't (naturally, ie not drunk/drugged) slept more than 3/4 hours a night for 6 years, that sounds exactly what I do.
It's pretty shit when they only way I have of getting a decent nights sleep is to drink every night.
As somebody who hasn't (naturally, ie not drunk/drugged) slept more than 3/4 hours a night for 6 years, that sounds exactly what I do.
It's pretty shit when they only way I have of getting a decent nights sleep is to drink every night.
Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx thoOriginally Posted by Equium Duo
Having been a victim of not going to sleep without enough booz for several years myself i can only say mr. raper! cut that shit out! nosrsly i sleep a average of 5h a night and i know that with alcohol you sleep way more but the sleep intensity and duration dont match at all (or maybe you should say quality idk).
In any case its very very detrimental in the long run and go and try melotonin pills or temp ~pams type of pills. The booz/sleep cycle will just make it worse and best to break the cycle now! (or soon)
i did in 2007/2008 and it was hard but im glad i did
I've had insomnia problems for years, and finally figured out a way to go to sleep easily.Having been a victim of not going to sleep without enough booz for several years myself i can only say mr. raper! cut that shit out! nosrsly i sleep a average of 5h a night and i know that with alcohol you sleep way more but the sleep intensity and duration dont match at all (or maybe you should say quality idk).
In any case its very very detrimental in the long run and go and try melotonin pills or temp ~pams type of pills. The booz/sleep cycle will just make it worse and best to break the cycle now! (or soon)
i did in 2007/2008 and it was hard but im glad i did
DO NOT MOVE. Find a position. It won't be totally comfortable, and that's ok. Stay completely still except for slow breathing. Sleep will come rather quickly, it's never taken me more than half an hour since I figured this out. Sleeping pills always woke me up. Not moving lets me sleep.
Not trying to be snide here, but do you guys that have trouble sleeping live a sedentary lifestyle? If so, it'd probably help to go for a jog/gym at some point in the day.
Good thread +rep.
I've managed to overcome panic attacks. Used to get them at an early age, first I remember is at 6 years old. At 10 I would recognize them and deal with them by riding them out by self isolation.
I don't really know how I got to that point however, I think it was after watching Dune out of all things. That pain box got to me. The attacks were kinda like the illusion of pain, panic and discomfort. Seems stupid but that's what the 10 yo me got out of Dune.
I can get a hint of them now when I have a heavy migraine attack. But dealing with that goes the same way so I manage.
Anyway, that's a minor thing to my bestest buddys problem.
involuntary anorexia, severe anxiety, depression
probably because of too much work and to high expectations/pressure from his dad and by himself.
Dude has been totally stressed out and heavily medicated.
I don't remember what pills he's on but the least of the side effects are: shaking hands, skittish movement, spasms, sweating, problem with articulation etc.
Worst I've seen him tho was when I went to stay over at his place just to hang out and catch up.
In the middle of the night I wake up because I hear voices. It's him, talking to himself... in two voices.
I can't remember the topic but it results in him getting dressed and heads out the door. I ask him what he's up to.. "gonna go get some pizza, bit hungry".
So he's back in 20 minutes with a pizza and he sits down and eat half. Then he goes back to the "dialog" mode about how to best store it for tomorrow. He does some dishes, brushes his teeth and goes back to bed. I try to talk to him a few times but he's ignoring me. When he went to get the pizza he was somewhat responsive. When he got back he was in über-sleepwalk-mode.
When I ask him about it the next day he's got no memory of it at all. He even asked me when I went and got that pizza.
He's said that the pills help a bit to keep appetite up, get him to sleep and dampen the anxiety. But he feels that the therapy sessions have done the most good and that it wouldn't have gotten better without the two in combination. He also appreciates that I've told him to feel free to talk to me about it but that I won't bring it up when we hang out. He felt that it was good to just chill without having to worry about "the shit".
I run and most people i know who have the same issues do aswell. In general excercise is a great way to get the dopamine going. Having sex before sleeping also helps (not to be funny but when i was younger it didnt i would just go all hyperactive now that my metabolism changed, guess i was 28 when that started, it actually relaxes me and im le sleepy after).
I also sometimes take combination meds for sleeping, my biggest problem isnt going to sleep its staying a sleep.
@diic
The stuff your friends has sounds like he is on some serious meds like heavy dose lithium. My experience from the professional side is that people who have such side effects are the ones under heavy treatment in a institution (doesnt have to be a closed ward tho) and not out and about still working with those side-effects.
As i said before most of the times its just enough to be there for somebody like you are doing for your friend "to just chill without having to worry about "the shit".
bigup
Can't believe I've not seen this thread before.
I've been taking an SSRI, Fluoxetine, and seeing a therapist for the best part of a year now, I've suffered ups and downs for years but in April last year I realised that I had a problem and talked to a friend who has suffered from depression and now works as a volunteer at a mental health institution. It's the best thing I ever did, the worst thing about mental illness is that it still has a social stigma which for me made it very hard to even think about talking to someone, being a typical bloke who won't even phone the Dr's for an appointment unless he's dying.
What has surprised me is how supportive my friends and family have been, my relationships with them are stronger than ever now, mostly because I'm not a arsey, short tempered twat anymore.
It's good to know you're not alone, and I would encourage anyone who feels that they may be suffering from depression etc to talk to someone about it, it's liberating to get it off your chest.
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I'm kind of like that too, but mostly with school work. If there's no mandatory element to a class except the exam then I'll do nothing the entire semester and then study like 2-3 days before the exam. When I get started I have no problem studying for hours and hours, I'm just so bad at getting started. I'll literally F5 web pages instead of doing anything. The only time I wasn't like that was when I just started uni and actually had a social life, then I had no problem studying. Right now I have absolutely 0 social life and I don't even know how to begin fixing it.
edit: fun example of procrastination.
Last year in highschool, we had to do a big project. We had A YEAR to do it. What I did was I spent 48 hours straight writing in word during the last 2 days.
Spoiler:
Re. depression, if I had to guess I could probably be diagnosed with depression for the past decade, but that feels like blaming your own behaviour on something else. I mean, I never feel like doing anything ever and I actually find anything fun, have had problems with anxiety since highschool and even though I would never killmyself (I know myself well enough) I think about it a lot. Especially spontaneously exploding in front of other people haha. I'm going to start working out though, that usually helps mental health I find. Gives you energy at least. If I wasn't living with my parents I'm pretty sure I'd turn into an alcoholic asap. I feel so self pitying writing this :d hate it.
My tip is, actively try to dispel all thoughts from your head. As soon as you realize you're thinking about something, just focus on your breathing. That helps me anyway.
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WTF is this about? Why are you being such a dick?Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx tho
>random moodswingsWTF is this about? Why are you being such a dick?Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx tho
>sacul
For those of you who suffer from an inability to do anything and lethargy - there are a million different reasons why that might be.
But to suggest a potential fix/help, do your own research on the potential benefits of selfmedicating with modafinil (brandname: provigil). Its a prescription med but can be obtained easily online in its generic form (modalert).
Nope.>random moodswingsWTF is this about? Why are you being such a dick?Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx tho
>sacul
When reading Equium's post my bullshit detector went off.
If not then well equium i apologize but your wording and tone......well.
Nope.>random moodswingsWTF is this about? Why are you being such a dick?Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx tho
>sacul
When reading Equium's post my bullshit detector went off.
If not then well equium i apologize but your wording and tone......well.
Sperging at people because you think they might be lying in a thread for helping people with their mental health.
You might want to think that through again.
Seeing what i just posted me thinks thats exactly what i did.Nope.>random moodswingsWTF is this about? Why are you being such a dick?Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx tho
>sacul
When reading Equium's post my bullshit detector went off.
If not then well equium i apologize but your wording and tone......well.
Sperging at people because you think they might be lying in a thread for helping people with their mental health.
You might want to think that through again.
sometimes i herp a derpSeeing what i just posted me thinks thats exactly what i did.Nope.>random moodswingsWTF is this about? Why are you being such a dick?Yes having dealt with many such people i can clearly see how your situation is shoped i can tell by the amounts of bullshit details you put in yourpost. Thnx tho
>sacul
When reading Equium's post my bullshit detector went off.
If not then well equium i apologize but your wording and tone......well.
Sperging at people because you think they might be lying in a thread for helping people with their mental health.
You might want to think that through again.
sometimes
In other news, night nurse does bad bad things to my sleep cycle.
I might die, again.
Quit the shit talking. This is not the emo thread.
Mini-Update:
Finally ventured to the counselor yesterday (they were booked these past 2 weeks). Managed to drop off a lot mental and emotional load via filling in my backstory for the guy. Academics was the big issue we came up with and we concluded if I had those sorted out then I'd be a lot better offer mentally. He offered to act as a coach of sorts and told me I probably just need to buckle down and exploit every last resource I've got to help me out. We also ended up coming to the conclusion that all my perceived "mental issues" (Depression, anxiety, etc.) might not be causes but more than likely symptoms of my current state of affairs.
Overall I walked out surprisingly disappointed. I'd gone in thinking it would be this magical cure and revelation. On further thought, however, I can appreciate what I gained from the session. It helped to reaffirm what others have been telling me and what I've been telling myself. I've had this do minimal work for maximum pleasure mentality going on for the longest time but I think I just need to buckle down and act on what everyone's been telling me. In essence I need to start focusing on my end goal of finishing college and start to reevaluate my priorities in life.
Another thing I noted is that later on I realized that I might not be as fucked up in the head as I thought. Which gave me the strangest feeling of relief.
That's all I've got for now. I've got another appointment scheduled 2 weeks from now. I'll report back anymore insights.
I had a lot of issues with writing my master's thesis. I'll avoid going into them, but I joined a support group (sponsored by the university and chaired by a psychologist) of people in a similar situation. It affected all of us differently, causing some to sleep up to 16 hours a day and others to lose themselves in perfectionism so badly that they couldn't put a word on paper. What helped me (and what I took away from all of it) was to set goals for myself that I could achieve, even if they were pitifully small at first. So don't tell yourself to "do all the coursework for course X on monday" but start with "do 1 hour of coursework for course X on monday". It'll make you feel good about yourself (unmet goals make you feel VERY shit about yourself) and baby step by baby step, you'll get it done. You have to be hard on yourself, because it's work. If you are too hard on yourself, you might set yourself up for failure and that might lead to "I can't do it" later down the road. Sadly no magical revelation or cure, just an approach to buckling down and doing stuff. However it works out for you, best of luck and good vibes :-)
PS Another thing I learned from that group is that everyone has at least one "mental problem" that shows up under stress. Depression, insomnia, obsessive compulsive behaviour, you name it. All in all, there is no such thing as 'normal', so go on feeling relieved.
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