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    Deffo go chat to the Doctor.

    Until that's done, remember the adage: "If you trust, you will be disappointed occasionally, but if you mistrust, you will be miserable all the time."

    Accept occasionally being made a fool as the cost of living a healthy life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post

    And lack of socializing in IRL environments has done horrible damage. You guys remember how trusting people in EVE was always stupid? It's sorta like that, only applied to IRL. Everybody's out to use everybody, there's no such thing as loyalty anymore. It's foolish to place your trust in anybody, especially if you have money. The "good girl next door" type simply does not exist, in a society that encourages materialism and selfishness.
    I can sympathise with everything you wrote down, however the above struck closest to home for me.

    Look, you don't need a lot of people around to be happy. Don't open up to just everybody as a pre-emptive way of getting inconvenienced.

    But see a doctor. There is hope even for people who adhere to a code of conduct. I should know.


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    I saw a doctor about 6 months ago regarding my depression, it comes and goes in phases and at the time was feeling great (typical that i'll only seek help for depression when i'm not feeling depressed :P). Doctor recommended CBT, and referred me to a local organisation which is was good, was interested to see if it would help. Organisation had a 6 week waiting list, fair enough, i know resources are stretched and was in a 'good period' so didn't bother me. Eventually I kept getting missed phone calls offering me time slots (due to them calling when i was at work, and me not having my phone on my person at work), and when i returned the call the slot had been given away. I tried to arrange by email that any slot that came up within 'x' miles, during 'y' times would be fine and to go ahead and put me down without calling me, but they insisted they had to speak to me in person to book therapy because 'procedure'.

    After 4 months they finally called me during a lunch break and got hold of me, arrange weekly sessions fucking miles away, but better than nothing. With the rule that due to high demand if you miss 2 sessions the course is cancelled and place offered to someone else. The day offered already clashed with a walking holiday I'd booked and paid for to spend time with my dad, I told them this before accepting but they said it would have to count as a missed session (despite 3 weeks notice :S ), and then the next session I got a chain jam cycling en-route which snapped my chain. Due to the distance and me being basically in the middle of the countryside at the time there was no way to get there on time even if i called a taxi, plus had a 4 mile walk home.

    Am now blacklisted for 6 months after missing both of my first 2 sessions, and the depression cycle has kicked in again. frustrating as fuck. I bear no particular ill will to the people providing the service, i know how thinly stretched resources are, it's just made it personally relevant to me how underfunded everything is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome View Post
    I saw a doctor about 6 months ago regarding my depression, it comes and goes in phases and at the time was feeling great (typical that i'll only seek help for depression when i'm not feeling depressed :P). Doctor recommended CBT, and referred me to a local organisation which is was good, was interested to see if it would help. Organisation had a 6 week waiting list, fair enough, i know resources are stretched and was in a 'good period' so didn't bother me. Eventually I kept getting missed phone calls offering me time slots (due to them calling when i was at work, and me not having my phone on my person at work), and when i returned the call the slot had been given away. I tried to arrange by email that any slot that came up within 'x' miles, during 'y' times would be fine and to go ahead and put me down without calling me, but they insisted they had to speak to me in person to book therapy because 'procedure'.

    After 4 months they finally called me during a lunch break and got hold of me, arrange weekly sessions fucking miles away, but better than nothing. With the rule that due to high demand if you miss 2 sessions the course is cancelled and place offered to someone else. The day offered already clashed with a walking holiday I'd booked and paid for to spend time with my dad, I told them this before accepting but they said it would have to count as a missed session (despite 3 weeks notice :S ), and then the next session I got a chain jam cycling en-route which snapped my chain. Due to the distance and me being basically in the middle of the countryside at the time there was no way to get there on time even if i called a taxi, plus had a 4 mile walk home.

    Am now blacklisted for 6 months after missing both of my first 2 sessions, and the depression cycle has kicked in again. frustrating as fuck. I bear no particular ill will to the people providing the service, i know how thinly stretched resources are, it's just made it personally relevant to me how underfunded everything is.
    Go private. I did, after a similar run around routine from government lead schemes and NHS rubbish. Took a while to find a suitable private psychotherapist, but no regrets at all. Had appointments every 10 days or so for about 1.5-2 years. Not had an appointment now for over two years, haven't felt the need for any and no meds in probably about 2.5 years.

    It may seem expensive at first, but most are quite accommodating with money payment. Mine would always ask if I was struggling to pay. YMMV

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    When you think about it, although it seems quite expensive it's basically the single best investment of your money possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    When you think about it, although it seems quite expensive it's basically the single best investment of your money possible.
    P much this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    When you think about it, although it seems quite expensive it's basically the single best investment of your money possible.
    Need to have money in the first place to invest it though
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    Bought a big ugly fucker of a SAD lamp. Will report on how this slows down or reverses the slide back into depression.

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    It werks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    Go private...
    So I let the idea sit in my head for a few weeks and it's still there (my go to method for determining whether something is worthwhile :P), so how do you go about it? GP referral? I googled for what's available in my area, but it would just be a shot in the dark regarding quality/relevance.

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    Pondering if should post this...well lets.
    So over the summer i broke of yet another relationship, went on a soul searching travels that promted a few fhc folk to pm me if i was allright or gave up the forum, thanks its nice to be noted when absent to be honest. Didnt find the bodhisattva i was looking for, i never do.
    Came back to a restless world that made me move house yet again. And neglected uni exams, private pay as you go has its benefits. Did a internship at a secluded town and another one last weeks at a refugee place abroad. Hence my absence this time unnoticed. Got me a in a right foul mood about EU shizzle. No matter it passed.

    I was feeling physically bad since i guess march. Shrink said something was also up with my blood work so go see a gp whenever. Wasnt any urgency in his words. After a few months i went because i had a skin infection that wouldnt go away on two places.
    Gp was alarmed, mind i heal fast and clean if it isnt concerning the brain. Did a quick Blood scan and i had a blood glucose level of 20, should be between 4 and 7 ish. Fuckin all sorts of alarm bells went of.
    Scared the crap 'out of me more than when i was diagnosed with bipolar.

    Heavy meds, Ultra quick referals, as within 36h l. Social Health care be praised. Went to the Erasmus hospital National expert dermatologist for the skin thing, turns 'out he is world renowned and that only emphasised the urgency of seeing him within 36h. Got put on 2 different heavy dosis of antibiotica. Damn that got me sick combined with anti diabetic meds.

    Memory is a bit foggy but the med cocktails combined with the meds i already had landed me on a whooping 12 pills a day. Felt like a ripe old man then.
    Uni Doc gave me good scare about diabetes, my two skin conditions and cigagerette smoking. I quit that day and also quit any alcohol because that seems very bad with the antibiotica.
    We, the Doc and specialist, are unclear why i had diabetes type 2 to begin with keeping my age, diet and weight in mind. Not overweight, not old, i dont even drink fizZy stuff nor sugar in my thee or coffie (i detest overly sweet food even).
    Within a week my blood sugar dropped to 6-7 but with a drastic food change and metforemine, anti diabetic meds. Took a few months for my blood work to show the same image as expected.

    So now in a new house feeling pretty good and back to just 8 damn pills a day. That scare gave me a much needed look at my current life i guess, going towards 40, well over the hill of mid thirty. Bit young for a mid life crisis.

    Being the idiot i am i had a short love interest, smoked my first weed in allmost 15 years and cut 'out some toxic people but renewed contact with a old friend from the nineties.
    Pretty intense times now that i look back at it. I feel extremly restless tho and have been taking more benzo's than i like despite also feeling good.


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    To add a few things. I lost some Hair in weird places before the meds. I have a glorious beard growth as in people complement me about it even before hipsters were real, dont sport it year round tho just when i like. Suddenly i lost all hairs on two weird places about a tip of a thumb. Turns 'out thats normal with diabetes.
    Hair is back now but that looked funny.

    The four times a night feeling thirsty and having to piss i wont mis either. Made a joke about it when lallante had that, Sorry lall i just recognized the ways. Dumbass body.

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    Sometimes I wonder if full frontal lobotomy isn't the option I have been looking for. The last year has been spent trying to find the right meds., and/or the right diagnosis. Started out as BP II, went through various anti-psychotics to get me sorted and to help combat depression. Didn't really work. Onward to the mood stabilizers, maxed out dose of Lamictal now, and not really stable. Now being considered for Lithium (yay bloodwork!).

    In between I've done 3 or 4 various meds to help me sleep, and two anti-depressants. I've been hospitalized for a mixed episode, had my first experiences with psychosis and have about 10 weeks of medical leave and who knows what else.

    Currently being examined for possible:
    - Asberger (seriously doubt it, but A++ would use again as an excuse for forum autism)
    - Epilepsia (just to rule out it being the cause of psychosis)
    - MRI (rule out somatic causes for depression and psychosis)
    - Bipolar schizoaffective disorder

    Because - bipolar disorder - the disorder that keeps on giving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome View Post
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    Go private...
    So I let the idea sit in my head for a few weeks and it's still there (my go to method for determining whether something is worthwhile :P), so how do you go about it? GP referral? I googled for what's available in my area, but it would just be a shot in the dark regarding quality/relevance.
    I guess you could go to a GP and ask for all the local (depending on how far you are willing to travel) private practices. What I did was just google "Private Mental Health in [insert town/city]" checked reviews for places, made a shortlist via reviews and accessibility and then just rang them up for appointments and immediate availability. This narrowed it down a lot. Then you just fucking go and get started.

    If you are still living in area where we grew up and have a car I can recommend a good place.

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    that would be a bit of a commute :P I kind of live in both bristol and edinburgh these days, which does complicate things. actually... Yorkshire is half way between the 2, maybe stop off for therapy travelling between the 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
    Uni Doc gave me good scare about diabetes, my two skin conditions and cigagerette smoking. I quit that day and also quit any alcohol because that seems very bad with the antibiotica.
    We, the Doc and specialist, are unclear why i had diabetes type 2 to begin with keeping my age, diet and weight in mind. Not overweight, not old, i dont even drink fizZy stuff nor sugar in my thee or coffie (i detest overly sweet food even).
    Within a week my blood sugar dropped to 6-7 but with a drastic food change and metforemine, anti diabetic meds. Took a few months for my blood work to show the same image as expected.
    Grats on turning that around so quickly. I once went out with a girl whose blood sugar often reached the 20s after each meal, but she had a massive sweet tooth and couldn't really help herself.

    You mentioned cutting back on sugary stuff, it's good that people are starting to wise up about sugar now. I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but starchy foods break down into glucose in the bloodstream as well, which also won't be doing you any favours.

    So if you're still eating things like bread, potatoes, cereals, pasta, rice etc then you might want to look at scaling those back, in fact anything with more than a token amount of carbs. You'll want to keep track of this with your doc as you go, because if you suddenly stop all of that while still taking meds you could end up hypoglycemic. But in any case, any carbs you can cut out will help increase your chances of being able to come off at least some of those meds.

    Diet Doctor is a pretty good resource for helping manage T2D as well as a bunch of other things.
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    Hey all,

    Just thought I'd chime in for the first time. I've been dealing with the trifecta of General Anxiety Disorder, Social Anxiety Disorder and "mild" PTSD for some time now. Originally I thought that I'd dealt with it all when it arose the first time round but a couple years after the original incident my employer's conduct triggered a complete relapse on a monumental scale. Spin on a year or so after the relapse and I ended up collapsing with severe cardio-thoracic damage, something which hadn't been detected at the original incident. Ironically the mental health side of things wasn't aggravated by the new medical developments but, as if on queue, my employer began with their shenanigans all over again which resulted in written warning being issued to them several times by various surgeons stating that if they didn't cease their behaviour there was a good chance of that they would trigger a second cardiac incident which would, in all likelihood, be fatal. Unfortunately this didn't deter my employer.

    Fast forward since then and after many delays I eventually had one of the surgeries I needed although the missus at the time had a breakdown while I was in hospital, went off the rails and left me in ICU post surgery after launching a rather interesting verbal attack against me. Although I'm still recovering I've since returned to work with the same employer (horrific job market where I am) and despite attempting official action within the company I've had no success with resolving existing problems there. Although I've done my best to make my employer realise that over the past two weeks the conduct of a member of management has been deliberately causing increased anxiety this was simply dismissed as being dramatic. A few days later and I ended up being taken from work to A&E with a massive panic attack in work with all the additional hospital intervention that comes attached with recent major cardiac surgery.

    I've contacted my union and I'm waiting for their response and I'm going to try and force myself back into work this week but the thought of going back fills me with dread and leaves me feeling as though I'm going to physically throw up... not to mention increased chest pain.

    I'm currently hunting for a new job but as mentioned previously the market is horrendous and it's made more complicated by my need for regular hospital appointments. I've been advised by the medical side of things that I should consider resigning as my employer seem incapable of conducting themselves in an appropriate fashion, if I could I would but unfortunately food and bills don't pay themselves. At present I feel as though I'm between a rock and a hard place with no solution in sight.

    In the meantime I'll just have to keep job hunting and trying to keep my head down. I'd love to say something positive regarding my social life but on that side of things the only real positive is that it's not really generating any stress at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacheria Malfor View Post

    I'm currently hunting for a new job but as mentioned previously the market is horrendous and it's made more complicated by my need for regular hospital appointments. I've been advised by the medical side of things that I should consider resigning as my employer seem incapable of conducting themselves in an appropriate fashion, if I could I would but unfortunately food and bills don't pay themselves. At present I feel as though I'm between a rock and a hard place with no solution in sight.
    Speak to someone from your union, sounds like you have quite a strong case for constructive dismissal.


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    Figured I'd drop in and check on everyone/update folks. Not dead yet.

    Finally got a diagnosis, to nobody's surprise autism is on the list, next to ADHD-I, anxiety, and depression.

    Now in the wonderful "Fight insurance for access to meds I need to function." phase of the healthcare process.

    On the plus side, recently got out of a really horrible/stressful living situation and into someplace with understanding housemates, which has knocked my stress and anxiety levels down a notch.
    I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those Thukkers, that way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody.
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    Yeah I need to go back to the looney bin and get my diagnosis and sort shit out this winter.
    I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold.

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