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    shit, gonna be a crap 2 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    shit, gonna be a crap 2 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by LobbyZ View Post
    so went to the trial, said my stuff etc

    find out he was let go pending the judgement in 2 weeks
    they havnt learned a single thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
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    so went to the trial, said my stuff etc

    find out he was let go pending the judgement in 2 weeks
    they havnt learned a single thing

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    Are they actually retarded?
    Probably. I mean he has nothing here left in sweden so I dunno where they're keeping him or just dumped h im in the streets but it has made me not want to go out
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    So, asking for a friend etc. Can psychological factors (depression, stress) cause severe physiological (? No idea, just throwing words out) side effects like full blown sickness?
    Let's say someone suddenly starts getting coughing attacks when talking and.. Brace yourselves, whenever he tries to eat something that shit starts again and gets so severe that he has trouble breathing and even throws up?

    It's borderline surreal but as real as it gets. Docs can't find the issue, more appointments lined up but damn, shit is serious (not being able to eat and no medicaments helping, for weeks) :/



    Edit: if someone can recommend a serious mood lamp (that is suitable for proper medical treatment, not some nice cozy lamp), I would be grateful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox
    I swear you are some sort of biological weapon developed in the early '90's for the Yugoslav wars but they lost track of you at some point and now you're waging a psychological war on Western Europe without a clue what you're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrehl View Post
    So, asking for a friend etc. Can psychological factors (depression, stress) cause severe physiological (? No idea, just throwing words out) side effects like full blown sickness?
    Let's say someone suddenly starts getting coughing attacks when talking and.. Brace yourselves, whenever he tries to eat something that shit starts again and gets so severe that he has trouble breathing and even throws up?

    It's borderline surreal but as real as it gets. Docs can't find the issue, more appointments lined up but damn, shit is serious (not being able to eat and no medicaments helping, for weeks) :/



    Edit: if someone can recommend a serious mood lamp (that is suitable for proper medical treatment, not some nice cozy lamp), I would be grateful.
    Yes, they can. It's quite interesting that it can cause physical issues (tachycardia, tachypnea, nausea, vomiting, fainting), but bloods don't usually show anything bad. What helps is genuinely being there for them and if it shit gets real (i.e. dehydration or malnutrition), get the ambulance. Not a lot more you can do, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrehl View Post
    So, asking for a friend etc. Can psychological factors (depression, stress) cause severe physiological (? No idea, just throwing words out) side effects like full blown sickness?
    Let's say someone suddenly starts getting coughing attacks when talking and.. Brace yourselves, whenever he tries to eat something that shit starts again and gets so severe that he has trouble breathing and even throws up?

    It's borderline surreal but as real as it gets. Docs can't find the issue, more appointments lined up but damn, shit is serious (not being able to eat and no medicaments helping, for weeks) :/



    Edit: if someone can recommend a serious mood lamp (that is suitable for proper medical treatment, not some nice cozy lamp), I would be grateful.
    Yes, they can. It's quite interesting that it can cause physical issues (tachycardia, tachypnea, nausea, vomiting, fainting), but bloods don't usually show anything bad. What helps is genuinely being there for them and if it shit gets real (i.e. dehydration or malnutrition), get the ambulance. Not a lot more you can do, really.
    Aha I see. Sadly she doesnt want to see anyone or talk to others, just stays in her room most of the time and wouldnt even talk too much to her mother (who is now staying at her place). Occasionally she feels like talking to someone, starts a conversation with her mom and a minute later the coughing appears.
    At least I think that she feels that she doesnt want to be alone, when her mother goes out she eventually calls her to ask where she is. But then it all goes to normal - stays in her room, door shut and her mother is in the living room

    I know its not my business to butt in but im afraid for her. I cannot imagine how fragile she is having not eaten anything for so long. If its a psychological issue thats causing it, I dont know how you can get out of this state. Can she even take say antidepressants if her doctor were to prescribe her something? I mean if you cant accept any food, pills would be even worse

    Edit: not saying thats the cause of all the issues, but its probably a factor (and is something that should've been dealt with on time :/ ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox
    I swear you are some sort of biological weapon developed in the early '90's for the Yugoslav wars but they lost track of you at some point and now you're waging a psychological war on Western Europe without a clue what you're doing.

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    An acquaintance of mine tended to get ill after she started working and worrying herself too much. It recently ended up in her getting appendix inflamed. i personally after telling her a couple of times to start taking it easy just extracted myself out of the entire situation. no point in trying to advise people who wont take your advice.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    An acquaintance of mine tended to get ill after she started working and worrying herself too much. It recently ended up in her getting appendix inflamed. i personally after telling her a couple of times to start taking it easy just extracted myself out of the entire situation. no point in trying to advise people who wont take your advice.
    Someone very close to me had a similar issue - constantly worrying, nervous before interviews, nervous at work, stressed in all kinds of situations. Finally after years of having a shit time and all parts of the body starting to throw a fit she went to the doctor and started getting light anti-depressants. Turns out another several friends/colleagues (that she knows of) had the same issue and one of them ended up helping her.

    And idk man, no amount of "dont worry", "it will be fine", "dont stress it" and what not helped. Its just how it is when you have deeper issues than you think and you ignore them for too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox
    I swear you are some sort of biological weapon developed in the early '90's for the Yugoslav wars but they lost track of you at some point and now you're waging a psychological war on Western Europe without a clue what you're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    An acquaintance of mine tended to get ill after she started working and worrying herself too much. It recently ended up in her getting appendix inflamed. i personally after telling her a couple of times to start taking it easy just extracted myself out of the entire situation. no point in trying to advise people who wont take your advice.
    Ill fuck with it after dinner etc rami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrehl View Post
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    So, asking for a friend etc. Can psychological factors (depression, stress) cause severe physiological (? No idea, just throwing words out) side effects like full blown sickness?
    Let's say someone suddenly starts getting coughing attacks when talking and.. Brace yourselves, whenever he tries to eat something that shit starts again and gets so severe that he has trouble breathing and even throws up?

    It's borderline surreal but as real as it gets. Docs can't find the issue, more appointments lined up but damn, shit is serious (not being able to eat and no medicaments helping, for weeks) :/



    Edit: if someone can recommend a serious mood lamp (that is suitable for proper medical treatment, not some nice cozy lamp), I would be grateful.
    Yes, they can. It's quite interesting that it can cause physical issues (tachycardia, tachypnea, nausea, vomiting, fainting), but bloods don't usually show anything bad. What helps is genuinely being there for them and if it shit gets real (i.e. dehydration or malnutrition), get the ambulance. Not a lot more you can do, really.
    Aha I see. Sadly she doesnt want to see anyone or talk to others, just stays in her room most of the time and wouldnt even talk too much to her mother (who is now staying at her place). Occasionally she feels like talking to someone, starts a conversation with her mom and a minute later the coughing appears.
    At least I think that she feels that she doesnt want to be alone, when her mother goes out she eventually calls her to ask where she is. But then it all goes to normal - stays in her room, door shut and her mother is in the living room

    I know its not my business to butt in but im afraid for her. I cannot imagine how fragile she is having not eaten anything for so long. If its a psychological issue thats causing it, I dont know how you can get out of this state. Can she even take say antidepressants if her doctor were to prescribe her something? I mean if you cant accept any food, pills would be even worse

    Edit: not saying thats the cause of all the issues, but its probably a factor (and is something that should've been dealt with on time :/ ).
    This sounds very familiar to me and you are of course right to worry about her. I also don't think that pills will fix it, at least not on their own. Thing is, not going out puts you in a downwards spiral and it doesn't tend to end well. It is also quite risky for the people who tend to get involved - like you, in this instance.

    Basically what you can do is somehow force her outside - either by getting her and her mother outside for idk a meal or something and a walk. Don't force serious food, take them out for ice cream for example, or cake. This usually helps the brain regardless of the state you're in, it forces it to secrete some of the good stuffs. Try to not emphasise any of the issues whilst out -> just hang out. Repeat a few times. Talk to her in private as well, see what makes her tick, encourage her to engage with her hobbies.

    Depends a lot on what your relationship with her is. I will be quite blunt and honest, if it's a romantic interest it can go tits up in the most retarded way possible. If you want just to be a friend for her it depends a lot on how much a friend you are available to be. Because if you have your own stuff to attend to, something like this can take a lot of your time.

    Of course, push for her seeing a therapist, but don't be obvious. Wait for a convenient time to place the question "have you thought about talking to a professional about this?", usually if/when she'll open up to you, let he speak and then pop the question. Motivate your asking with "I'm not a professional and this seems quite difficult/complicated/complex".

    What you are describing here happened to me and it took me two years of sustained efforts to help and in the end I got dumpsterised, reminding me on how the first Fallout game ended At least she is in a much better state than when I met her, but 2 years of one's life is a steep price to pay once you draw the line. So think well. I think you're in a better place to help, a less hands on approach would be to talk to her mother and express your concerns and ask her to push for the daughter to see a professional - sometimes parents can get it done just by firmly asking - but the professional chosen is quite crucial to be a very good one. It helps to do this privately as well, albeit it's a lot more expensive.

    I wish you all the best and hope it works out ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrehl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    An acquaintance of mine tended to get ill after she started working and worrying herself too much. It recently ended up in her getting appendix inflamed. i personally after telling her a couple of times to start taking it easy just extracted myself out of the entire situation. no point in trying to advise people who wont take your advice.
    Someone very close to me had a similar issue - constantly worrying, nervous before interviews, nervous at work, stressed in all kinds of situations. Finally after years of having a shit time and all parts of the body starting to throw a fit she went to the doctor and started getting light anti-depressants. Turns out another several friends/colleagues (that she knows of) had the same issue and one of them ended up helping her.

    And idk man, no amount of "dont worry", "it will be fine", "dont stress it" and what not helped. Its just how it is when you have deeper issues than you think and you ignore them for too long.
    Meh it wasnt that in this case. Its literally stress of overworking affecting physical health. If you dont take it easy you will feel it later on. Some people are more prone to complications some less. She is more. Thats why I literally said she needs to start working less or it will come and bite her in the ass. Sadly it did and sooner than I thought. Or maybe it was just a coincidence. I somewhat doubt it tho.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmin View Post

    This sounds very familiar to me and you are of course right to worry about her. I also don't think that pills will fix it, at least not on their own. Thing is, not going out puts you in a downwards spiral and it doesn't tend to end well. It is also quite risky for the people who tend to get involved - like you, in this instance.

    Basically what you can do is somehow force her outside - either by getting her and her mother outside for idk a meal or something and a walk. Don't force serious food, take them out for ice cream for example, or cake. This usually helps the brain regardless of the state you're in, it forces it to secrete some of the good stuffs. Try to not emphasise any of the issues whilst out -> just hang out. Repeat a few times. Talk to her in private as well, see what makes her tick, encourage her to engage with her hobbies.

    Depends a lot on what your relationship with her is. I will be quite blunt and honest, if it's a romantic interest it can go tits up in the most retarded way possible. If you want just to be a friend for her it depends a lot on how much a friend you are available to be. Because if you have your own stuff to attend to, something like this can take a lot of your time.

    Of course, push for her seeing a therapist, but don't be obvious. Wait for a convenient time to place the question "have you thought about talking to a professional about this?", usually if/when she'll open up to you, let he speak and then pop the question. Motivate your asking with "I'm not a professional and this seems quite difficult/complicated/complex".

    What you are describing here happened to me and it took me two years of sustained efforts to help and in the end I got dumpsterised, reminding me on how the first Fallout game ended At least she is in a much better state than when I met her, but 2 years of one's life is a steep price to pay once you draw the line. So think well. I think you're in a better place to help, a less hands on approach would be to talk to her mother and express your concerns and ask her to push for the daughter to see a professional - sometimes parents can get it done just by firmly asking - but the professional chosen is quite crucial to be a very good one. It helps to do this privately as well, albeit it's a lot more expensive.

    I wish you all the best and hope it works out ok.
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    So since my break up I haven't been able to sleep properly. This is on a background of usually fucked up sleep schedules due to night shifts and long days, but lately it's become unbearable.

    At work I'm a zombie and at home I can't seem to fall asleep so I don't oversleep the next day.

    I wouldn't be concerned but last week one day I wasn't able to wake up for work. Luckily there were enough colleagues as to not worry and I've put it on the cocked up schedule due to a short notice night I offered to do, but I'm afraid it runs deeper than that.

    I tried meditating, tea, cocoa, reading (can't focus for shit more than 30 minutes, I used to be able to read for hours), hobbies (turns into OCD guitar play or detail obsessed model building or all achievements gaming. None of these are good for me because they fuck up my time massively and I'm already behind on paperwork it isn't even funny anymore.

    Didn't try gym yet because I have awful back pains lately and my left leg is fucked up (calf and foot), so I'm at a loss. Tried ambient lighting with warm colours and f.lux shenanigans, not playing with my phone in bed, I just can't get to sleep. I eventually pass out on the sofa and comasleep and wake up in bed not remembering how I got there.

    I also managed to resurface grief that I haven't properly processed priorly at the time like some deaths in my family so atm I'm feeling a bit of a wreck doing escapist stuff and being torpedoed from all sides and trying to get rid of the excess flooding by employing a teaspoon.

    I don't really want to go back to therapy since I've already been discharged with the conclusion that I'm ok (and I am, just lately I can't sleep lel), plus I feel like if I had a few weeks off I could get a hold on stuff. I do have it programmed soon, but have parents visiting so it isn't really me time so vOv.

    I don't do pills, weed, alcohol because I feel it'd be a slippery slope and I don't want to go there.

    It's probably all the more disheartening that she's worse lately but will not reach out to me and I don't have anyone to reach out to either. I'm also aware I've put myself in this position fully knowing it may go sideways and was slightly under prepared to deal with the fallout.

    I do feel I've made progress on a lot of stuff since when I started therapy I wasn't even able to enjoy my hobbies, which had turned into a moderate enthusiasm. I enjoy rain and nature again and I'm less grumpy and more prone to smiling. I feel there's a lot of toxic influence I've removed from my life but at the same time it left me almost friendless. I've also been working on mastering the art of being assertive, which helped immensely with the above, but left me with a bitter taste regarding humans in general and friends in particular.

    Will try a beer today and see if it helps, I doubt I'll become an alcoholic with just one beer

    This was more letting off steam than anything else, but will appreciate any suggestions ^^


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    Got directed to post here, so here's a short thing:

    For years I've dealt with depression at varying times. Sometimes a little, sometimes big. I've been in therapy for the shit since 2013, and I feel like a massive relapse is coming. Been off meds for over a year since I got better without needing them (with doctor guidance ofc).

    I find ymself more and more pissed off lately easily, driving by hatred and desires of revenge. And I can't let it go. I remember people from 20+ years ago who fucked me over, when I was a damned kid, and I onyl want to see them admit I did better. To make something of myself, to prove them wrong. Years of this shit. And I feel it's all hollow, I got myself a GED and enrolled in college, same year, something I didn't do for years because of hatred of the testing process. Yet, it feels hollow.

    And lack of socializing in IRL environments has done horrible damage. You guys remember how trusting people in EVE was always stupid? It's sorta like that, only applied to IRL. Everybody's out to use everybody, there's no such thing as loyalty anymore. It's foolish to place your trust in anybody, especially if you have money. The "good girl next door" type simply does not exist, in a society that encourages materialism and selfishness.

    And...can any of you blame me? One look at our government and whose in power, and perhaps it's understandable why somebody who isn't a rich white man (like myself, being a minority and decidedly not wealthy or well off) is going thorugh mental anguish (maybe wrong word, I dunno)...

    Subscribing to an ideal of ethics or code of honor makes me wonder if there was ever a point to it. Do the right thing, nobody does it, it's always what's right for them and not as a whole. Pragmatism is the only way, I've learned from these years of mental shittery.

    And sometimes I've thought about suicide. Hell half the time I'm just fucking bored and run through What If? scenarios in my head. Only now my anger and such has gotten worse, lashing out nearly everywhere online, and gotten PMs from people I've known for 10+ years asking if they need to put me on suicide watch.

    My hatred for those who use others has gotten to where I view most as just parasitic leeches, since most people only tlak to me when they want something. Hell, I have so much knowledge and yet, can't do anything with it.

    Nothing meant anything in the end of all this. I don't know if I'm just being hyper emo combined with rage, or if it really is worse depression than usual anymore. I know I need to report all of this to my doctor.

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    One of my dad's mates is a Vietnam veteran. His depression manifested itself as unceasing rage.

    Might be prudent to chat with your doctor.
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