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    You ok dude?
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    Hello Latuda - where have you been all my life? Literally a lifesaving drug. And it doesnít make me a fat zombie like some drugs (looking at you Zyprexa) does. Thank goodness I live in a place where I can afford the drug because damn itís expensive (ish $1000 pr month).


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    my main tip is that a primary cause of anxiety is creating accounts to forums in order to promote websites can result in being told to fuck off, which can damage self esteem. if that isn't what you're doing then apologies, but it probably is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    I've been suffering severe anxiety for almost a year now and been given a prescription for Benzodiazepines for my medication. But i heard alot of people telling me that marijuana helps relieve anxiety but im not im not sure if its true so i came up to search something about this idea and came across this marijuana strain from https://www.bonzaseeds.com/blog/black-diamond/ it says that i can discard all forms of stress and its euphoric buzz it delivers often is useful in combating anxiety and depression. I wanted to hear your thoughts about this guys and if you can give me any tips that can help me with my anxieties.
    You require 2 marijuanas.

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    Well, just bear in mind that, just like all psychoactive substances, they have a bit different effect on different people. Give it a try but don't expect miracles. I personally like stoning myself for that chilling out effect, but i also know lots of people who get edgy when stoned.
    I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold.

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    So need some help and advice.... sadly this is the only place I can ask as no one really knows me so its semi-anonymous

    Recently started seeing someone who told me last week she is bi-polar. I knew she took medication for mood issues as I have known here a long long time but this is a bit of a shock TBH. No idea how to handle this at all. Everything online says just to "be there" for her when she needs it but I know some of you have the same or similar illnesses so would apprecaite how you handle this. At this stage its not going to be an option to walk away , far too fucking good fun for both of us but I am worried this is the upside and I have no idea what the lowside will be ...

    All help and advice appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jags View Post
    So need some help and advice.... sadly this is the only place I can ask as no one really knows me so its semi-anonymous

    Recently started seeing someone who told me last week she is bi-polar. I knew she took medication for mood issues as I have known here a long long time but this is a bit of a shock TBH. No idea how to handle this at all. Everything online says just to "be there" for her when she needs it but I know some of you have the same or similar illnesses so would apprecaite how you handle this. At this stage its not going to be an option to walk away , far too fucking good fun for both of us but I am worried this is the upside and I have no idea what the lowside will be ...

    All help and advice appreciated
    Walk away before you knock her up or she traps you. Find someone who is not mentally ill.

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    I hate to agree with the above but ideally you should walk away. Mental illness is a thing that doesn't go well when you're emotionally involved. It's all fun and games until the ugly bits show up (and they will, regardless of therapy happening or not, can be quite bad if not).

    Source: 2 years involved with borderline personality disorder person, she was fine at the end, I ended up a complete wreck and took me almost a year to recover. Still not fully there myself, she seems in excellent shape.

    Fake edit: I'm not bitter, I know I offered my best and what happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. But the fact that shit tore me apart still remains and personality disorders (all of them) need to be monitored closely.

    Also, if you truly love her and she loves you, you can choose to stick around and make it work. Sometimes it actually works out. Walking away is the preferable way to handle this if there are no strings, however you can always choose hard mode and roll with it. It is, at the end of the day, your choice.

    If you choose the latter, have her do therapy from time to time (go private), even if it is just an assessment to see how she's doing and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jags View Post
    So need some help and advice.... sadly this is the only place I can ask as no one really knows me so its semi-anonymous

    Recently started seeing someone who told me last week she is bi-polar. I knew she took medication for mood issues as I have known here a long long time but this is a bit of a shock TBH. No idea how to handle this at all. Everything online says just to "be there" for her when she needs it but I know some of you have the same or similar illnesses so would apprecaite how you handle this. At this stage its not going to be an option to walk away , far too fucking good fun for both of us but I am worried this is the upside and I have no idea what the lowside will be ...

    All help and advice appreciated
    Don't take the advice to cut and run just because of the specter of mental illness. That's a shitty thing to do to someone. Especially someone who has a history of depression. The best advice I can give is to get involved, with her permission. Have an honest talk with her about your concerns, find out which type of bipolar she has, and ask if you can talk with her treatment team to find out more about it. Let her know up front that you want to make it work, but you need more information on how to help with her disorder.

    Going into a relationship like this with both eyes open will dramatically improve the chance of it succeeding. Talking to her doctors, finding out what they think you can do to help, is going to be more useful than any internet forum advice, because they're the ones who have been working with her for years. Most doctors these days will have patients doing some form of cognitive behavioral therapy, find out if you can either sit in on a session, or better yet, take a couple sessions yourself. Understanding the principles of CBT and how she's being taught to apply them will help you work with her if she needs support.

    As for your concerns about high-low periods, find out what form of bipolar disorder she has. Bipolar 1 and 2 are different beasts. BP1 manifests with both full-blown manic episodes (delusional self-confidence, incredible amounts of energy, lowered inhibitions) and depressive episodes. BP2 manifests as hypomania (elevated energy and drive, but without the delusions.) and depression. That said, if she's on medications, the high/low generally won't manifest as a sharp behavioral change like that, but rather a softer shift in the amount of energy and drive she has.
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    Also, subjectively I think bipolar would be easier to deal with than borderline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    Also, subjectively I think bipolar would be easier to deal with than borderline.
    Fully agree with this.







    Ooph, agree to some extent. However, the more you advance through life, the more you notice time isn't coming back. Huge investments come with huge risks and if you get burned that's years down the shitter with the associated crap you need to deal yourself (depression isn't confined to people with mental health issues, it can creep on anyone).

    Hence why I said it's his choice and he should consider both. I agree discriminating on mh issues is a horrible thing to do. That's not what's happening. It's simply considering the choices and assessing the risks involved. If somebody can't cope with stuff in the long run, it's better to just bail out asap for both their sakes.


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    Appreciate the comments , going to continue with it and see where it goes. She did have a bit of a breakdown a couple of weeks back just after I posted this (tears and general upset - but that cn happen to anyone) but I was able to help her through it ok. Spoken to her family about the history and I think its largely been under control apart from a couple of serious issues over a decade ago. Absolutely understand this is not going to be easy, and TBH I dont know if I am strong enough to handle any really bad episodes but its been a really good enjoyable few months with only one minor problem to deal with. Not that I am the easiest person to get along with as I have a number of anxiety related issues, maybe we are just meant to drag each other through this and see how it goes

    Again really appreciate the honest responses, you guys arent that bad after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophichius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jags View Post
    So need some help and advice.... sadly this is the only place I can ask as no one really knows me so its semi-anonymous

    Recently started seeing someone who told me last week she is bi-polar. I knew she took medication for mood issues as I have known here a long long time but this is a bit of a shock TBH. No idea how to handle this at all. Everything online says just to "be there" for her when she needs it but I know some of you have the same or similar illnesses so would apprecaite how you handle this. At this stage its not going to be an option to walk away , far too fucking good fun for both of us but I am worried this is the upside and I have no idea what the lowside will be ...

    All help and advice appreciated
    Don't take the advice to cut and run just because of the specter of mental illness. That's a shitty thing to do to someone. Especially someone who has a history of depression. The best advice I can give is to get involved, with her permission. Have an honest talk with her about your concerns, find out which type of bipolar she has, and ask if you can talk with her treatment team to find out more about it. Let her know up front that you want to make it work, but you need more information on how to help with her disorder.

    Going into a relationship like this with both eyes open will dramatically improve the chance of it succeeding. Talking to her doctors, finding out what they think you can do to help, is going to be more useful than any internet forum advice, because they're the ones who have been working with her for years. Most doctors these days will have patients doing some form of cognitive behavioral therapy, find out if you can either sit in on a session, or better yet, take a couple sessions yourself. Understanding the principles of CBT and how she's being taught to apply them will help you work with her if she needs support.

    As for your concerns about high-low periods, find out what form of bipolar disorder she has. Bipolar 1 and 2 are different beasts. BP1 manifests with both full-blown manic episodes (delusional self-confidence, incredible amounts of energy, lowered inhibitions) and depressive episodes. BP2 manifests as hypomania (elevated energy and drive, but without the delusions.) and depression. That said, if she's on medications, the high/low generally won't manifest as a sharp behavioral change like that, but rather a softer shift in the amount of energy and drive she has.
    I understand your sentiment and i am not saying it is bad advice but going all the way you are suggesting is a sure fire way to becoming a counselor for her. Which i would highly advice against.

    I had it happen two times now that i was honest with a girlfriend and in a period i was either pumped up from work, new project plus uni exams that type of stuff or when i was a bit out of it, long work days so tired and traveled alot for work, i got it thrown at my feet that 'my condition' must be acting up. I was so offended by those remarks that it send me in a fit of rage (once on the phone so i just hung up and the other time i smashed a plate on the kitchen floor and went for a walk). I am now less honest about it in new relationships because of this.

    On the other end of a relationship i twice had a relationship with somebody who had borderline, the first time i didnt know how to handle the situation and contacted her best friend for advice. This made the situation only worse and we broke up soon after.

    @Jags
    There are BiPo friend and family support group sites aswell as books on the subject so reading up on there might help, offcourse you can allways ask here. Talking with her about it helps, start with the fun manic parts, everybody with bipo has them.
    In NL we make a signal plan, well its used often not allways. Red-orange-green like a traffic light. The color codes go with internal and external cue's written down and what to do to get back into the green. For herself but also what others can do. If she has such a system she might want to share that with you.


    (BiPo type 2 myself, dad was BiPo aswell, grandmother paranoid schizoprenic in the last 20 years of her life, nephew with severe depression. Lets just say it runs in the family).
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    ah, now I understand what the traffic light poster in my kid's friends kitchen is for. The friend has mild autism so I guess it's a way for her to express how she's coping in general terms, just by moving the magnet up and down the traffic light.
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