Er do the docs know about the suicide ideation? As I get the impression that it's a big deal/warning flag.
Also have you tried going in to those sessions (or call the people outside of them) and saying you want to get on with the key stuff, that you think it takes too long to get to what you feel is important? What's the worse that can happen by telling them some feedback? Perhaps they think it's the right 'flow', or don't quite get what you're personally feeling is the cruz of the issue.
A short wait over here is 6 weeks. I remember my first proper appointment took 10 weeks back when i started (that was after a 2 week wait for a telephone intake).Originally Posted by Sparq
So, a letter arrived today.
So
1) Instead of calling me for a phone interview they sent me a letter, thanks for making that clear, doc.
2) Well, at least now I know I'm seeing a psychologist and not a psychiatrist! I'll chalk that up as a small win.
3) I wouldn't call 4-5 weeks "a short wait", but whatever.
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Honestly, i've had "suicidal ideation" for a number of years now. I don't really remember a time in the past... five years where it wasn't in the back of my mind somewhere. It comes and goes with how seriously I think about it though.
Yeah, I dunno with the counselling. I think the problem is more me, I have this automatic response of putting a brave face on everything, which is really hard to get past and actually start talking about this shit in person to someone.
psychiatrist is the doctor, psychologist does the studies / research.
like medical doctor and biologist . kinda.
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psychiatrist is the doctor, psychologist does the studies / research.
like medical doctor and biologist . kinda.
As I understand it, psychiatrists have an MD, and are only supposed to prescribe medicine and observe their interactions within the body. Psychologists are the ones trained to give the actual therapy.
I did something I'm pretty proud of today. Conquered my leaving-the-house-phobia and went down to a Games Workshop to pick up the 6th edition of 40k. Solo.
This, for me, is a pretty big deal, as I fear 1. people 2. public transit 3. public places and 4. being alone. I don't know where this idiotic fear comes from, but today I punched it in the cunt. This is more progress than I made during my months of therapy.
The cliché of psychiatrists being just pill pushers was relevant 20 years ago.
Good for you! Although considering how expensive WH40K is I really wanted to work a self-harm joke into this post ...
Not from my experience.
Eh most here still operate under that doctrine. A few good ones actually work with the patients to resolve their problems and dont drug them up completely.
(Almost directly quoting my friends mom who is a psychiatrist)
The thing is they're really not qualified to be giving help in any other form, as their degree is medicine-based. Obviously not relevant if they have a background in psychology too.
I guess it's a good thing that psychiatrists receive additional training post med school to be psychiatrists. Otherwise known as residency, which includes extensive training in psychotherapy.The thing is they're really not qualified to be giving help in any other form, as their degree is medicine-based.
And training in threatening to inject you with something if you don't take the pills they are pushing on you.I guess it's a good thing that psychiatrists receive additional training post med school to be psychiatrists. Otherwise known as residency, which includes extensive training in psychotherapy.The thing is they're really not qualified to be giving help in any other form, as their degree is medicine-based.
Just as it is now.
Sometimes it helps to talk to people who have no idea who you are tbh.
I disagree and i know a few psychologist and psychiatrists in Holland. They dont need residency with additional extensive training. Just to clarify i am not talking out of my ass; my former room mate is now a psychiatrist, my ex is a psychologist, her (and back then my) best friend is a psychiatrist and another friend is a MD. All people i have know during and after the uni years so im pretty sure its very different over here.I guess it's a good thing that psychiatrists receive additional training post med school to be psychiatrists. Otherwise known as residency, which includes extensive training in psychotherapy.The thing is they're really not qualified to be giving help in any other form, as their degree is medicine-based.
This morning i went to see my psychiatrist to ask some questions about meds and side effects. There right in front of me she looked up side effects on........yeah you wont believe me i guess.....Drugs.com
I was just so baffled i asked her if this was her main information resource, it was.
Well so you can imagine that appointment being totaly worthless since i know drugs. com most likely better than her. Asked about a alternative for seroquel as a mood stabilazor and it seems that is the most mild version available next would be stuff like Lithium and she will only prescribe that when im "rad-manic" (her words; and it is just on the edge of a full blown psychosis).
Not taking seroquel ever again and lithium sounds like a terribru remedy due to the side effects. After a long talk she told me im very sensitive to side effects and cautioned me not to experiment to much. As long as its all managable, like it is now, i should keep it this way.
The pill pusher wasnt pushing pills for a change (something she did do the last few appointments)
So in Holland anyone with an MD can call themselves a psychiatrist which doesn't require any additional training?
No the distinction is made from year 2 of your uni medicine study. You pick a field and become a psychiatrist (brain biochemical), a psychologist (a whole score of paths including psychoanalyticts) or a MD (as in general doctor or later on a surgeon etc)So in Holland anyone with an MD can call themselves a psychiatrist which doesn't require any additional training?
I think thats the fundamental difference in our country's.
Calling yourself a Freudian psychoanalyst isnt a protected title by the way over here, something they are trying to change in the law but the entire health care system is slowly trimming down as what they see as alternative medicine in coverage, psychoanalysis in freud or jung's style being amongst them.
On the side of me having to change psychs, seeing as the current her contract isnt renewed due to budget cuts october 1, i asked her how about the methodology in the IMR team. I refuse to be with a shrink that will ask me about my penis envy towards my mother or start talking about the role of my grandparents and ancestry, she told me there are indeed people who would delve into my past but she wouldnt recommend them to me.
srsly fml if i get one of those.
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