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  1. April 14 2011, 03:20:02 AM #1
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    [PVP] Coercer

    [Coercer, Zach Donnell's Coercer]
    Damage Control II
    Heat Sink II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

    Small Energy Burst Aerator I
    Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
    [empty rig slot]

    5k EHP
    with Scorch: 201/231 DPS, 20+3.1 optimal
    with Multifreq: 252/290 DPS, 6.6+3.1 optimal
    1679/2361 m/s
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  2. April 14 2011, 03:26:10 AM #2
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    Re: Coercer

    Honour tackle BEST TACKLE.

    damn these amarr ships and their 1mid slot layouts.


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  3. April 14 2011, 03:30:51 AM #3
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    Re: Coercer

    Deeps tackle!

    but yeah, tis quite annoying, cant really alpha tackle like a thrasher.
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  4. April 19 2011, 02:22:34 PM #4
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    Re: Coercer

    Current fit I've been using.

    Damage Control II
    3x heat Sink II

    Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

    8x Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

    3x Small Energy Locus Coordinator I

    Lack of point not a huge issue in rvb, and quite often while in the process of aligning to gtfo target get's popped.

    If it had 2 mid's it would be OP.
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  5. March 6 2012, 02:29:24 AM #5
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    My standard FW Coercer:

    [Coercer, Standard]
    400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Heat Sink II
    Damage Control II

    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

    Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S

    Small Ancillary Current Router I
    Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
    Small Trimark Armor Pump I

    8.8k EHP
    Speed: N/A (lol)

    I've brawled and beaten AC and Arty Thrashers in it, obviously without a prop mod it's limited to people engaging you or sitting on warp in to plexs or plex gates.

    It's got enough range with half it's guns to easily hit most things that will kite you in disruptor range, Slicers, Arty Thrashers, etc. And the Dual Lights will atleast do some damage at 19-20km (but not as much obviously). So you have enough DPS to kill those lightly tanked fuckers quickly enough or force them off.

    While still having 377 DPS overheated at close range to beat almost anything that will brawl with you, except for heavily tanked AFs ofcourse.
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  6. March 6 2012, 03:01:52 AM #6
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    Get rid of the MPLs and run a full rack of DLPs.
    You should be able to fit a damage or range rig instead of the ACR and have better dps on paper thanks to the better tracking.
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  7. March 6 2012, 06:53:40 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Get rid of the MPLs and run a full rack of DLPs.
    You should be able to fit a damage or range rig instead of the ACR and have better dps on paper thanks to the better tracking.
    Good idea prom, I came to a compromise with this fit:

    [Coercer, Standard]
    400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Damage Control II

    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Conflagration S

    Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Small Anti-Explosive Pump I

    You can put a trimark, but I prefer the anti-explosive considering the sheer number of Thrashers I come across.

    8.2k EHP
    354 (407) DPS @ 6.6+1.9 Conflag
    253 (290) @ 20+1.9 Scorch

    Slightly less tank, more deeps, better range, slightly better tracking overall (loss of a TE but all guns are DLPs now).

    Edit: It might be prudent to drop an HS for a TE, and use a damage or armor rig, depending on what you fight. Since I use this mainly to brawl with Thrashers (since they are the Drakes of FW), I prefer more DPS over tracking.
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  8. June 9 2012, 07:25:11 PM #8
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    http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_...ll_id=13605603

    8x 125mm Gatling AutoCannon
    10MN MicroWarpdrive II
    MAPC
    Small Ancillary Current Router



    gg?
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  9. June 9 2012, 08:51:25 PM #9
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    Legion was using a suboptimal fit since he can't use T2 MAPCs + couldn't get an meta MWD. Real fit is:

    [Coercer, 10MN Microwhat]
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S

    Small Ancillary Current Router I
    Small Ancillary Current Router I
    Small Ancillary Current Router I
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  10. June 9 2012, 08:58:55 PM #10
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    And then you get scramed or cap out?
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  11. June 9 2012, 09:14:30 PM #11
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    [Coercer, mah AB]
    Damage Control II
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II

    10MN Afterburner II

    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
    Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

    Small Ancillary Current Router I
    Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Small Energy Burst Aerator I

    Or you could do this,

    9mins cap, 1511m/s (2109m/s)

    Scorch 268 DPS (308) @ 17+1.9km with 0.38rad/s
    IN MF 336 DPS (386) @ 5.8+1.9km with 0.51rad/s
    Conflag 375 DPS (431) @ 5.8+1.9km with 0.35rad/s

    5.5k EHP.

    Still has some fitting room left, 19 CPU and 6 PG.

    dropping a HS for a TE brings the scorch DPS down to 231 (266) but the range goes up to 20+2.4.
    Last edited by Mr Marram; June 9 2012 at 09:17:08 PM.


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  12. June 10 2012, 01:52:37 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    And then you get scramed or cap out?
    No you kill them then continue to burn away like a champ.
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  13. June 10 2012, 02:30:07 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman Shouaa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    And then you get scramed or cap out?
    No you kill them then continue to burn away like a champ.
    Cause that's totally gonna happen with your 18.1s align time, 50s of cap (~5-6 cycles and cap is gone, oh and your lasers take cap too), 3.6k ehp, and 194 HEATED dps with scorch(with 15km optimal).

    Show me some actual fights with it in your upcoming pvp vid, or it's just an EFT warriored bad idea. You'll kill nothing but the odd idiot with a lot of luck, and diaf to just about anyone else.

    10mn AFTERBURNER fit...maybe. You can get some actual EHP/dps out of it(see Mister Marram's post for an example). Oversized MWD's are 100% retarded, 99% of the time.
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  14. June 10 2012, 09:03:34 AM #14
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    I guess element of surprise, the only problem is you really need to put lasers on it to make use of the hull bonuses.


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  15. June 13 2012, 08:20:44 AM #15
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    [Coercer, Beamsalot]
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I

    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S

    Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
    Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Small Ionic Field Projector I
    takes genolutions or meta te to fit

    DPS: Aurora (190) 46+5
    Gleam (314) 6.4+5 tracking is quite n1 at .33

    Gonna see how this works out this weekend.
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  16. June 13 2012, 08:48:17 AM #16
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    lockrange is less than 40km.
    just saying.
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  17. June 13 2012, 08:53:49 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suleiman Shouaa View Post
    Legion was using a suboptimal fit since he can't use T2 MAPCs + couldn't get an meta MWD.
    Tusker pilot without Energy Management V? I thought that was practically required to get in...
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  18. June 13 2012, 09:34:56 AM #18
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    lockrange is less than 40km.
    just saying.
    Lockrange is like 51km on my eft...

    Tusker pilot without Energy Management V? I thought that was practically required to get in...
    They keep me around for entertainment value obviously.
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  19. June 13 2012, 09:47:53 AM #19
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    oh derp, range rig.
    carry on
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Legionnaire View Post
      Spoiler:
    [Coercer, Beamsalot]
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I

    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S

    Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
    Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Small Ionic Field Projector I


    takes genolutions or meta te to fit

    DPS: Aurora (190) 46+5
    Gleam (314) 6.4+5 tracking is quite n1 at .33

    Gonna see how this works out this weekend.
    Very similar:

    [Coercer, kite]

    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Damage Control II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II

    Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I

    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S
    Dual Light Beam Laser II, Aurora S

    Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
    Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
    Small Ionic Field Projector I


    164(193)dps @40.8+3.75
    1837(2583)ms
    5k eHP

    The nano adds 150ms and brings align time to 5s. The DC adds 1.5k eHP. Targeting range is 46.9k. I wouldn't drop the nano what with all the thrashers out there. Dunno about the DC.
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