zerkers are boots.
unless he really got zekes hearld. But like that IS shit.
zerkers are boots.
unless he really got zekes hearld. But like that IS shit.
But CDR for dat ult
Also, MF, most skill-intensive carry because of having to try to keep the passive up, or ashe, for kiting? Discuss.
kog maw is the most skill intensive because you have to keep spamming taunt all the time
same with taric making him the most outrageously skill intensive champ in the game
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I didn't get Zeke's no, I got two BT's cause they made a habit of focusing me and the lifesteal was more than enough to beat them especially with the ARpen from LW + damage from the BT's and IE/PD.Originally Posted by Raxxman
That and they really were just letting me farm up the BT stacks. Ended the game with 370 CS.
Trist too fun.
I'm sure it's frustrating to be sperging about how someone said "no, not doing that yet" - but we've had 7 years to learn to pace ourselves after killing a block. And I dare say -- we've gotten quite good at it.
Sorry if it doesn't suit the armchair generals who have never committed to anything for more than 2 months, but by now we've learned that we really don't give a shit about what you think v0v.
ok you may have seen my post a while back about how to win in lower elo as an ad carry. i figured i would update that now as some patches have changed things a bit.
previously my advice was play vayne and just afk farm all day, but since then vayne was nerfed and her weak lane phase is now no longer guaranteed to be worth it with facerolling late. i wouldnt pick her in soloq now, shes too reliant on your support being competent and that isnt something you can rely on. unless you are duoq obviously, then she is still viable, but you probably need to see their ad carry pick before you take her.
miss fortune is now very good. she has amazing early game damage, great harass with her Q and counters the healing support meta very well with the active on her W. her lack of escapes does make her harder to play though, so you need to position properly.
the undisputed big dude of bot lane tho is graves now. theres imo literally no reason to pick anyone else if he is open (fyi his counter pick is miss fortune). his burst is still crazy and hes very support independent, which is a big help as theres about a 50/50 chance your support will be a total baddie.
build him as follows. if you have a sustain support or are very confident you wont lose a harass battle, start dorans blade, then first buy get a second dorans, berserker greaves and a vamp scepter. then build infinity edge, phantom dancer, bloodthirster/last whisper/quicksilver sash/guardian angel. the order you get those last 4 items is totally situational and obviously you wont get them all in any given game.
if you dont have a heal support or are worried you will lose a harass war, start boots+3 pots and then build the same way.
then simply roll face, receive elo.
the general advice from before still stands however. stay in lane. farm like a boss. dont chase kills or harass at the expense of missing creeps. if you kill their tower, or lose your tower, dont start roaming the map. you can send you support away if the enemy bot lane leaves, but you need to stay in lane, farm and push towers. i usually wont think about leaving lane until i have got iedge and phantom dancer as a general rule. situations may vary though.
still dont play ezreal.
Last edited by evil edna; February 27 2012 at 01:53:27 PM.
About Dorans blade: you need the hp buffer vs kill lanes. Go boots if you plan to harass or they have have annoying poke (caitlyn). Facing leona, blitz with trist graves (or similar) you need the hp buffer to not get instagibbed.
i'd argue that if you know your support is either non-retarded, or will listen to you, boots + 3 is better against kill lanes as you have more ability to dodge their kills, and the support can get vision wherever you need it most to see the kills incoming. YMMV, I admit the kill lanes I end up against are usually terrible because i'm in low ELO.
Kayle counts, right?
Not sure about Varus yet.
Anyone else played him?
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Voult's guide to low elo ad carries:
This is how i gain elo as mugen, he is around 1400 now, lost 100 elo to decey but cba to play more now.
If I'm support, I just grab the champ that compliments our ad carry the best. Then just do what the ad carry tells me to do. Well that is try and fit to his playstyle.
My best ad carries when I get to be it, is teemo and trist.
Teemo is not a fucking carry and that shit needs to stop.
Yep. Fucker is a sack of gold to the enemy team, or an OK top as a counter to a few champs.
Varus seems really strong. His AS passive is great to keep CS up and makes him look intimidating once you get boots + zeal. The ult is probably my favorite AD ult now other than ashe arrow, its excellent all throughout the game and IMO really easy to land since it passes through minions. His Q while fun as hell to shoot and land, has a slow projectile speed which makes it harder to hit, it does however have great ratios so if you land it, it hurts. E also seems useless other than the slow, but i'm starting to keep it one point higher than Q now. W is actually really strong, it gives bonus damage which makes last hitting a breeze and will do extra damage when you land your abilities. I'm pretty sure* that Blight doesn't get removed from a target if you start shooting another target, it just has the 6 second cool down. You can auto attack several targets then fire off E and trigger the blight on all of them. He has mana problems if you try to spam your skills, but its not necessary to, to win your lane.
I start boots + pots and grab a point in W for extra damage. Level E next and then Q, and then try to max W. I like to get 2 dorans + vamp and then standard AD carry items, try to get a early zeal with your BF sword.The extra AS really makes him strong in lane. My end build is something stupid like AS Boots, PD, IE, LW, PD, BT.
tl;dr, he's pretty good in lane, great ult, farms like a boss, hard (imo) to use as a poke champ.
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*2 Phantom Dancers
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There is literally no reason to ever stack phantom dancers. In a build like that you've got no defense whatsoever beyond movespeed and Varus has no escapes and only one hard CC on his ult. You need some kind of defensive item. QSS or Banshees, or GA if the game goes super late.
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dont listen to zekk he has no idea what hes talking about. phantom dancers reach their maximum effectiveness at 3 phantom dancers, especially on a champ with an attack speed steroid.
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