[PvP] Tornado

[Lady Spank]

I used to come to SHC for fitting advice. Now I come to see how bads fit their ships.

[Naoru]

FHC is the new Battleclinic C/D?

[Ahrieman]

I used to come to SHC for fitting advice. Now I come to see how bads fit their ships.

I posted this here cus I thought this was where to spread ideas while avoiding the trolls

I only fly it cus it works.

[Shiodome]

I used to come to SHC for fitting advice. Now I come to see how bads fit their ships.

when did you turn into a shitposter?

[TotallyNotDaneel]

Since he got his Genos ticker?

[Nordstern]

Since he got his Genos ticker?

+rep

[Shin_getter]

Theory: every nano kite ship should fit ewar damn it. They are more effective than being put on brawlers: thus~

Probably be good to replace DC2 for gyro depends on how close to opponent you want to fly it....

[Tornado, tornado snipe damp]
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive

1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

[Mr Marram]

Theory: every nano kite ship should fit ewar damn it. They are more effective than being put on brawlers: thus~

Probably be good to replace DC2 for gyro depends on how close to opponent you want to fly it....

[Tornado, tornado snipe damp]
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive

1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

if you are going to get that close and want damps then a DCU is pointless, may was well get a nano and help you GTFO when things go tits up or better yet, another gyro.

[ras]

MY NADO

1.8k/s, 781dps @ 4km + 49 km, 20k ehp

[Tornado, Trackrig]

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster II
Medium Auxiliary Thrusters II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I




I like the speed on the above, prolly gonna roll with this on the next one though

1.66k/s, 874 dps @ 4 km + 49 km, 22k ehp

[Tornado, burst2]

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

[Mr Marram]

Should really drop one LSE for an invun and get an anti-em rig, you have glaring em and therm holes which oracles and harbies will love to punch through also any AC boat.

[LordsServant]

My horrible, bad not-prom-approved tornado fit.

Can't shoot anything for shit as it's obviously terrible.


[Tornado, Ring a Ding Baby!]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Fourier Transform Tracking Program
Co-Processor II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I

[Rebelike]

you can do a DG warp disruptor and then fit meta 4 webs instead =D

[Zavior]

even an artycane will volley you almost to structure. That 2360hp buffer with shit all resistances will make a nice target :P

[OrangeAfroMan]

X5, especially in pairs, work just fine.

Also, no buffer concerns me

[LordsServant]

X5, especially in pairs, work just fine.

Also, no buffer concerns me

No buffer really isn't that much of an issue, rolled it again today. Solo'd a gatecamp (with me landing in their bubble, entirely without bonuses) and then ran circles around another gang (ended up dieing due to not boosting in time as I was low on charges and running things low in hull while trying to kill a nado, also, they had an ares with permatackle on me).

No real issues I've seen tbh except those experienced by other t3s, and im actually stronger as I have dual webs in that aspect.

[W0lf Crendraven]

The no buffer really is a problem, seeing as anything bigger will alpha your shields and let you take armor damage, meaning even if you could on paper permatank them and win you will loose vs a artycane/other tier3s/2drakes, if you want dualweb fly a naga! Frigates who come in close will still kill you and the role you want it to fill is i think way better fulfilled by the naga and you even loose the metagame, people will not expect this of a nado but this doesnt help you as they still expect you to be a very good ship and the way to kill you hasnt changed!

[LordsServant]

The no buffer really is a problem, seeing as anything bigger will alpha your shields and let you take armor damage, meaning even if you could on paper permatank them and win you will loose vs a artycane/other tier3s/2drakes, if you want dualweb fly a naga! Frigates who come in close will still kill you and the role you want it to fill is i think way better fulfilled by the naga and you even loose the metagame, people will not expect this of a nado but this doesnt help you as they still expect you to be a very good ship and the way to kill you hasnt changed!

http://pinkiepie.eve-kill.net/?a=kil...ll_id=14271746
^^Part of a 4 man BC gang, I was out of booster charges when I finished him off, had to pull range. Didn't die.

http://pinkiepie.eve-kill.net/?a=kil...ll_id=14281699
^^Landed in their bubble at 0, was webbed, luckily thrasher was on other side, I was able to overload everything and pull range on cane, and was able to kill thrasher (took a couple shots) before focusing on the cane and killing him.

http://pinkiepie.eve-kill.net/?a=kil...ll_id=14282249
^^Had zero issues killing him when he was trying to close on me, dual webs slow you down enough, and, similar to my harpy - no scram so ur mwd keeps running blowing ur sig up for me to kill u.

http://pinkiepie.eve-kill.net/?a=kil...ll_id=14282139
^^Engaged for several minutes in a running fight. One tornado was arty fit, you just need to not be bad and be in range of him and/or run up xversal. I eventually died as I was in ~50% hull from the ongoing fighting I'd been doing on and off, and had very few boosters left to fight them with, and I was trying to kill a nado at the time. I let my shields get too low and got killed right as I pulsed the booster again, that was pilot mistake, not really a ship deficiency. All but the last fight (where I actually died) were done WITHOUT boosters. (Act, I think I got boosters at the very end of the first fight with 4 BCs, but they didn't really make the fight tbh.

It's all about piloting skill, and knowing what your ships strengths/weaknesses are. Running straight in and taking tons of dps will obviously get u killed, just learn to mitigate damage and you're absolutely fine with that fit.

Oh and for those who were hating on my XLASB talos fit:

http://pinkiepie.eve-kill.net/?a=kil...ll_id=14270746

The fit was: http://pinkiepie.eve-kill.net/?a=kil...ll_id=14270829

No buffer except DCU. Lack of buffer is NOT an issue if you're on the ball and know what you're doing.

[W0lf Crendraven]

You still would have been better off with a naga! It isnt about whether a fit works or not! Its about how well it works and if theres a ship thats cheaper/better or that the current meta game favours in the intended role! And the naga covers that exept maybe for the price!

[Ophichius]

I don't think he would have. A similar Naga fit has worse damage projection and tracking, can't choose damage types, has half the cap longevity, and is 300m/s slower. It gains 2k EHP of shield buffer and 150 DPS of tank. That doesn't seem like a good trade.

-O

[LordsServant]

I don't think he would have. A similar Naga fit has worse damage projection and tracking, can't choose damage types, has half the cap longevity, and is 300m/s slower. It gains 2k EHP of shield buffer and 150 DPS of tank. That doesn't seem like a good trade.

-O

Ophi hit the nail on the head - selectable damage is the biggest thing for me. I am CONSTANTLY switching up ammo depending on what I'm shooting, it makes all the difference in the world. Nado is superior in this role, also my tracking is even MORE better if I bring along titanium sabot which increases my tracking by ANOTHER 20%.

Tornado is superior in this exact fit, I do however have 3 naga hulls lying around which I will prob mess around with soonish. Feel free to tune into my livestream and see what horribleness I do with those :P