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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post
    Fit all 425mms. Medium T2 Anti-EMs are cheap (24mil), and you WILL want a capacitor mod on a Naga

    [Naga, Naga - 425s Damps]

    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening
    Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening
    Cap Recharger II

    Tracking Enhancer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I



    20.3k EHP, bit light, but acceptable.
    Or be a real man and use a god damn cap booster instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post
    Fit all 425mms. Medium T2 Anti-EMs are cheap (24mil), and you WILL want a capacitor mod on a Naga

    [Naga, Naga - 425s Damps]

    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening
    Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening
    Cap Recharger II

    Tracking Enhancer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I



    20.3k EHP, bit light, but acceptable.
    Or be a real man and use a god damn cap booster instead?
    Can't see a reason not to use one. (fitting maybe?)

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    Because there's no real reason to impose an arbitrary limit on yourself when you can manage your cap and be just fine.
    Actually an '06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix-arb View Post
    [Naga, New Setup 1]
    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Warp Disruptor II
    Stasis Webifier II

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


    but tbh your a fag if you dont go 3 mag stab. i find scrams underwhelming on this tbh, and with 42kehp you arnt exactly fucking paper cannon. against cruisers and even bc web disrupter is nice

    kiting rail fits really do work nicely too with the tracking they have they create a lockrange deathzone to hacs like 700 dps at 70km or something stupids
    Switched the Damage Control II for a Tracking Enhancer II and had my first go at a solo Naga last night.
    I was surprised at how well it did, engaged Manticore, Enyo and Cynabal 50 off a station, ended up popping the Manticore and Cynabal with the Enyo geting away in low armor.
    I would say the web is very much a must, if you are soloing.

    On paper the Talos should be better, but for some reason i really liked flying this, it didn't feel as squishy as a Talos, and the web was a real nice tool.
    I might just be me, but I think the Naga will get more fights than a Talos too, might not be as scary to some people.

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    [Naga, afraid of committment]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Sensor Booster II
    Sensor Booster II
    Tracking Computer II
    Tracking Computer II
    Tracking Computer II
    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I

    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II
    425mm Railgun II

    Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
    Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

    Something like 8k EHP, so bring m8s

    50-100km:
    Sebos are 2x scan res
    Tracking computers are 3 x tracking speed (54+30km)
    Ammo is CN AM for 761 DPS

    100-150km:
    sebos are 1 scan res, 1 targeting range
    Tracking computers are 3x optimal range (133+58km guns)
    Ammo is CN Thorium for 570DPS

    Can do 440 DPS with Spike out to 225km or so if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Or be a real man and use a god damn cap booster instead?
    or possibly throw on a cap battery if the cap is easilly managed and it'll fit. cpu would be an issue i guess.

    I was actually considering popping a random small cap battery on active tanking armour boats for some cheap neut resistance but it feels like a bit of a shitfit

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    I'm on an iPhone and Eve Universe doesn't have the new ancillary shield boosters so I don't have exact numbers on this, but this is a monster for solo and maybe small gang work. And the best part is nearly anything will engage you.

    8x Electron Blaster Cannon II

    1x XL Ancillary Shield booster
    2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    1x j5b scram
    1x X5 web
    1x Experimental 10MN MWD

    1x MagStab II
    1x CPU II
    1x DCU II

    Hybrid collision rig
    EM shield resist rig
    Therm shield resist rig

    Brawler Naga tanks about 850 overheated, over 600 normally, hits for over 900 with void. Web/scram + electrons + antimatter means you can kill frigs if you fly properly. Killed lots of thrashers, a drake and a crow with it so far on TQ. On SiSi I took this out with a set of low grade crystals and killed a faction pimped adrestia.

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    Seems like one of those things where god help you if you ever have to reload in battle. You will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Seems like one of those things where god help you if you ever have to reload in battle. You will die.
    Very much so, but with navy 400s you get 13 cycles of the booster, which gives you 52 seconds of non overheated tank, and if you can get out of the fight before then, you're fine. It's easy to kill 60s warping to safe spots.

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    Almost seems like you have to have a running timer on the screen so you know when you need to GTFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSpadge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Seems like one of those things where god help you if you ever have to reload in battle. You will die.
    Very much so, but with navy 400s you get 13 cycles of the booster, which gives you 52 seconds of non overheated tank, and if you can get out of the fight before then, you're fine. It's easy to kill 60s warping to safe spots.
    That's a bit of a big "if", especially with the (lack of) range on the electrons
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    With the naga's optimal bonus, void and antimatter both hit to the edge of scram range fine, and null hits to 20k. The naga is faster than any non tier 3 BC, and this fit easily kills small stuff that thinks it can get close and orbit. Also worth noting is that the 13 charges can last much longer if you can pulse the booster. In any case, people don't expect you to tank anything at all, and you can often kill someone before they realize you have a tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSpadge View Post
    8x Electron Blaster Cannon II

    1x XL Ancillary Shield booster
    2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    1x j5b scram
    1x X5 web
    1x Experimental 10MN MWD

    1x MagStab II
    1x CPU II
    1x DCU II

    Hybrid collision rig
    EM shield resist rig
    Therm shield resist rig
    I like the idea - might be better using the new CPU rigs. Maybe something like this?

    [Naga, New Setup 1]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II

    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
    X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

    Gets 974 (1121) dps with Void, or 873 (1004) with CN AM. PG isn't quite so tight, either. Interestingly, EFT indicates that Void will do more dps at your typical engagement range against BC and above, even with max transversal. Might even be worth switching the DCU out for another Mag stab, given that you're relying on the booster for a lot of your tank, and the DCU doesn't add that much in the way of EHP from your boosts.
    Last edited by Kalar Freno; June 11 2012 at 08:06:24 PM.

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    Since you all seem to be going in that direction, I'm gonna tell you that single XLASB nagas are fucking terrible.

    This is what you want, and what I've been flying (engaged everything that moved that I've seen and still havent lost it despite lolblobs coming at me).


    [Naga, dual xl]
    Co-Processor II
    Internal Force Field Array I
    Co-Processor II

    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    5a Prototype Shield Support I
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Small Nosferatu II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router II

    You need max skills for it.

    You also need tengu bonuses, and LG crystals. Loki bonuses are preferred so you have better tackle range, along with lower sig(lower incoming dps).

    Before heat and bluepill, you get 4297 dps tank vs omni.

    With heat(invuln + 2x boosters) - you get a burst tank of 5920.

    With strong blue pill - 7696.

    Noone expects it, and as long as you treat it like a supertanked nightmare/vindi etc etc and stay on gates/stations, you're absolutely fine. Only thing I can think of that threatens you is alpha (you literally boosted 2/3 of your shields with a single booster, is very scary sometimes) =D

    EDIT: Not Null, I use caldari navy antimatter. Was just checking range in eft, herpaderp. Also, check the fitting, no you cannot fit another gun. I consider ~600 dps to be fine tbh.
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    Dropping your second booster to a large allows you to fit neutrons, t2 fit everything and drop to t1 rigs btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    Dropping your second booster to a large allows you to fit neutrons, t2 fit everything and drop to t1 rigs btw.
    Also would force me to carry 2 different kinds of cap charges, along with turning my "reloading first booster, 60s to go" tank into a measly 1198 pre-bluepill, as opposed to my currently beastly 2972.
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    Blue pill doesnt touch asb try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Blue pill doesnt touch asb try again.
    They fixed that m8 keep up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Blue pill doesnt touch asb try again.
    They fixed that m8 keep up
    ./o\ why didnt quackers post the patch notes or did entrox kill him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Blue pill doesnt touch asb try again.
    They fixed that m8 keep up
    ./o\ why didnt quackers post the patch notes or did entrox kill him?
    Also, I will never ever suggest anything I don't personally fly in game - I fly all my fits, and test them(I know what works, altho admittedly entrox was the one who first tipped me off to the blue pill working). If I haven't, I'll say so.
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    All you people who think a Shitposting Throne is an acheivement.

    Fucking kill yourselves.

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