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  1. November 30 2011, 03:00:50 PM #1
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    [PVP] Naga

    So I'm working on Large Hybrid Turret Skills as we speak, finishing up my Caldari crosstrain (to match my Amarr skills).

    I intend to fly the fine looking new Caldari Tier 3 Battlecruiser, the Naga, and would like to get some fits for possible uses.

    Since we have no thread yet, figured I'd start one to encourage fit posting.

    Thanks! o7
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  2. November 30 2011, 03:12:56 PM #2
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    I tryed that on Sissi :

    [Naga, Blast]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    10MN Microwarpdrive II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Warp Scrambler II
    Large Shield Extender II

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

    1296 DPS @ 16km + 4km without overheat if I remember correctly with my skills...about 45k EHP
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  3. November 30 2011, 04:05:39 PM #3
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    Wait the new tier 3 BC use Large turrets?
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  4. November 30 2011, 04:24:24 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Wait the new tier 3 BC use Large turrets?
    Get out
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  5. November 30 2011, 06:01:23 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
    Wait the new tier 3 BC use Large turrets?
    Worst mod tbh~

    but then again i taught the 5% dmg bonus was not just to large turrets :S
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  6. November 30 2011, 06:14:16 PM #6
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    I moderate a forum for eve spaceship fittings which I no longer play v0v
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  7. November 30 2011, 10:16:11 PM #7
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    -1 invuln, +1 tracking computer (presumably tracking script). Does the tank suffer too much?
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  8. November 30 2011, 10:23:07 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    -1 invuln, +1 tracking computer (presumably tracking script). Does the tank suffer too much?
    I'd probably drop a Magstab before an invuln :/ dat EHP 2x MFS / 1x TE might be a better choice, still good dps, much better range/tracking combination.

    edit: also warp scram not long point? have you looked at the range on null?
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  9. November 30 2011, 10:29:51 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    -1 invuln, +1 tracking computer (presumably tracking script). Does the tank suffer too much?
    Archetype's fit isn't using all its medslots. The numbers are also fairly significantly off.

    Fixing it:

    [Naga, Blast Actual]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Invulnerability Field II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Warp Scrambler II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I

    1234 dps with void @ 10+6.3km, 882 dps with null @ 17+16km, 1106 dps with CN-AM @ 6.8+13km.
    37.7k EHP

    If you just sit there and blow something away, the Void load is simply devestating, but 37.7k EHP is, you know, not a lot. In that range, an enemy FC would have to be braindead not to primary any of the new Tier 3 BCs. Tracking will also be an issue against many ships (even the BC+ sized ones) at that range without gang web support. For engaging targets jumping into you, using void is a significant drop in your DPS output due to firing at the full Fallof x1 range increment - both null and CN-AM will do significantly more dps at that range. Now thats not a big deal with a 5s reload time, but you can't really think of it as a "1200 dps on first ship to decloak" boat either.
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  10. November 30 2011, 10:33:43 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen View Post
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    Yes, the new BCs are actual "Battle Cruisers" - i.e. cruisers with the firepower of battleships but the speed and armour (or shields) of a cruiser.

    TBH it's technically what we should have had from the introduction of BCs.
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  11. December 1 2011, 09:26:08 AM #11
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    Bad memory

    Thx for fixing it Vortex, you seem all right on your statement. But I didn't notice any tracking issues against BC or CS with Void. And the DPS was pretty awesome for a fast ship like that.

    Overheat MWD, approach, Blast, scram, blast pouffff...

    It blowed up all others tier 3 close range setup. But hey...it was on Sissi ^^
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  12. December 2 2011, 04:57:07 AM #12
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    Yeah the Naga is a better Blaster Boat then the Talos IMO.

    But this thing does pretty good DPS now with rails too at max lock range as long as you know there are no probes out on grid. But you are fast enough to mvoe around where warp-ins will still land far enough way you have time to warp out and in again at a differant spot.
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  13. December 2 2011, 03:11:24 PM #13
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    I made a snipe hac naga. Prolly not too good.


    [Naga, rails]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Photon Scattering Field II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Sensor Booster II

    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L

    Medium Ancillary Current Router II
    Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

    ACR II is a fitting requirement to use the damage rig. If you take that rig off you can go ACR I + 4% PG imp. Or if you're dumb you can drop a MFS II for a PDU II. 598 DPS @ 81+30. Obviously you can trade off optimal/DPS however you'd like. 34k EHP, but an alright resist profile, especially against LAZORZ.
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  14. December 2 2011, 03:59:41 PM #14
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    How much do PG6 implants go for? The 3% are about 20 mill but PG6 wasn't listed for sale.
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  15. December 2 2011, 04:08:47 PM #15
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    Considering they come from Concord LP and how much the PG5's are worth, I'm pretty sure you'll have to RMT a kidney...
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  16. December 2 2011, 04:54:12 PM #16
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    Just get one of those new 'freebie' implants, or plan on using both when the other one's out too, with a PG4.
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  17. December 2 2011, 05:58:18 PM #17
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    I'm surprised how few people have clued into the fact that the new implant gave an alternate route to good fitting implants. I'm even more surprised how many people are selling those implants for sub 50mil.
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  18. December 2 2011, 06:10:28 PM #18
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    Whats the damage different between a rack of 425's and 350's? The CPU is just so tight on the 425 version.
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  19. December 2 2011, 06:22:47 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takon Orlani View Post
    Whats the damage different between a rack of 425's and 350's? The CPU is just so tight on the 425 version.
    [Naga, rails]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Photon Scattering Field II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Sensor Booster II

    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L
    350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge L

    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

    With that fit, 480 DPS and add in 5k more EHP. Ranges are similar, but a bit less falloff.

    Not the best tradeoff in the world. Better than some sniperhacs but not by much.
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  20. December 2 2011, 06:32:58 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    Considering they come from Concord LP and how much the PG5's are worth, I'm pretty sure you'll have to RMT a kidney...
    lol

    OK, for the price-conscious chap in these difficult economic times who doesn't want to compromise on deeps, TK Max offers:

    [Naga, PvP - Rails 3]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Invulnerability Field II
    'Anointed' I EM Ward Reinforcement
    Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L
    425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L

    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Requires a 3% grid implant.

    634 dps at 81+30

    31.1K EHP
    63-59-58-65 resists

    1386/1958 m/s
    7.1/9.5 s agilty
    Now I have a T2 gun. Ho, ho, ho.

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