The Old Republic (better than DayZ)

[lubica]

10/10 nightmare 16-man, bitches.

gz, but I really don't know why you bothered

Did you all have to go biochem for Soa?

[sahtila]

And people are more and more fed up with playing games released in beta state

the sad thing is, BioWare and EA made a financially correct decision by releasing in the Christmas season. The question here is, can 1.2 save the game enough? I dont think it will, especially considering theres a LARGE number of things that they said they still have no timetable on, especially legacy related stuff, which is supposed to be a major selling point for this game.

Nope, peoples have already left. Would need really epic patch to bring them back but well dont see that happening. Also patches wont fix basic problem, game engine is just bad. Engine cant manange enough peoples per realm -> Bioware has to open too many realms at launch -> when first wave of peoples left reams after disappointing game, server population drops far too fast under healthly. That combined with no LFG and LFR tools causes even more leave as they do not have anything to do at lvl50, so most servers are effectively dead now.

[noobcake]

And people are more and more fed up with playing games released in beta state

the sad thing is, BioWare and EA made a financially correct decision by releasing in the Christmas season. The question here is, can 1.2 save the game enough? I dont think it will, especially considering theres a LARGE number of things that they said they still have no timetable on, especially legacy related stuff, which is supposed to be a major selling point for this game.

Nope, peoples have already left. Would need really epic patch to bring them back but well dont see that happening. Also patches wont fix basic problem, game engine is just bad. Engine cant manange enough peoples per realm -> Bioware has to open too many realms at launch -> when first wave of peoples left reams after disappointing game, server population drops far too fast under healthly. That combined with no LFG and LFR tools causes even more leave as they do not have anything to do at lvl50, so most servers are effectively dead now.

server population appears to be on a steep decline. Wish they would give us some server pop charts to confirm or deny these speculations.

Edit: 20 days til sub runs out...

[cillisia]

Fuck sake i haven't played this yet and it's dead already?! Really hoped this would help migrate some of wows player base :-\

Sent via my smartphone so please try to ignore any retarded autocorrected errors

[Levark]

And people are more and more fed up with playing games released in beta state

the sad thing is, BioWare and EA made a financially correct decision by releasing in the Christmas season. The question here is, can 1.2 save the game enough? I dont think it will, especially considering theres a LARGE number of things that they said they still have no timetable on, especially legacy related stuff, which is supposed to be a major selling point for this game.

Nope, peoples have already left. Would need really epic patch to bring them back but well dont see that happening. Also patches wont fix basic problem, game engine is just bad. Engine cant manange enough peoples per realm -> Bioware has to open too many realms at launch -> when first wave of peoples left reams after disappointing game, server population drops far too fast under healthly. That combined with no LFG and LFR tools causes even more leave as they do not have anything to do at lvl50, so most servers are effectively dead now.

server population appears to be on a steep decline. Wish they would give us some server pop charts to confirm or deny these speculations.

Edit: 20 days til sub runs out...

i know this is not accurate at all http://beta.xfire.com/games/swtor but i can see a steady line going down

[lubica]

And people are more and more fed up with playing games released in beta state

the sad thing is, BioWare and EA made a financially correct decision by releasing in the Christmas season. The question here is, can 1.2 save the game enough? I dont think it will, especially considering theres a LARGE number of things that they said they still have no timetable on, especially legacy related stuff, which is supposed to be a major selling point for this game.

Nope, peoples have already left. Would need really epic patch to bring them back but well dont see that happening. Also patches wont fix basic problem, game engine is just bad. Engine cant manange enough peoples per realm -> Bioware has to open too many realms at launch -> when first wave of peoples left reams after disappointing game, server population drops far too fast under healthly. That combined with no LFG and LFR tools causes even more leave as they do not have anything to do at lvl50, so most servers are effectively dead now.

I'd say the premature launch of this game only demonstrates how inept and out of touch with their customers EA really is, as they'd sacrificed the huge potential this game had for becoming a viable choice of playing on the MMO market in the long-term, for a quick cash-in during the Christmas season, having forced BW to release several months earlier than the devs intended. If they'd just given the game the development time it needed (despite having an already horribly bloated budget), it might have been able to 'take over' a bigger chunk of the market within the next year or so.

[Nicholai Pestot]

I'd say the premature launch of this game only demonstrates how inept and out of touch with their customers EA really is, as they'd sacrificed the huge potential this game had for becoming a viable choice of playing on the MMO market in the long-term, for a quick cash-in during the Christmas season, having forced BW to release several months earlier than the devs intended. If they'd just given the game the development time it needed (despite having an already horribly bloated budget), it might have been able to 'take over' a bigger chunk of the market within the next year or so.

I disagree.

Don't get me wrong, I would have preferred them to release a non-shit game once development was really done, but I think they understand the bulk of their customers very well.

There is no way they would have been able to compete in the middle/latter half of this year with Guild Wars 2 grabbing all the traditional MMO enthusiasts and Planetside 2 gobbling up all the sci-fi/futuristic enthusiasts. They would have been left with nothing but a small core of people who love the Starwars lore more than they like better game play.

Ultimately their crash would have come proportionally sooner and harder when matched up against those two leviathans. They had a small window of profitability and they used it. Even taking the long term view, they had to release when they did because at the end of last year every day they delayed brought them one day closer to competition they couldn't beat, right down at a core game engine level.

Sucks for the people that bought the game, but this actually showed good sense on EA’s part, given the product they had.

[lubica]

I'd say the premature launch of this game only demonstrates how inept and out of touch with their customers EA really is, as they'd sacrificed the huge potential this game had for becoming a viable choice of playing on the MMO market in the long-term, for a quick cash-in during the Christmas season, having forced BW to release several months earlier than the devs intended. If they'd just given the game the development time it needed (despite having an already horribly bloated budget), it might have been able to 'take over' a bigger chunk of the market within the next year or so.

I disagree.

Don't get me wrong, I would have preferred them to release a non-shit game once development was really done, but I think they understand the bulk of their customers very well.

There is no way they would have been able to compete in the middle/latter half of this year with Guild Wars 2 grabbing all the traditional MMO enthusiasts and Planetside 2 gobbling up all the sci-fi/futuristic enthusiasts. They would have been left with nothing but a small core of people who love the Starwars lore more than they like better game play.

Ultimately their crash would have come proportionally sooner and harder when matched up against those two leviathans. They had a small window of profitability and they used it. Even taking the long term view, they had to release when they did because at the end of last year every day they delayed brought them one day closer to competition they couldn't beat, right down at a core game engine level.

Sucks for the people that bought the game, but this actually showed good sense on EA’s part, given the product they had.

Your point is valid, but again short-term. I was thinking more in terms of the total WoW subscriber base and that the majority of them are by now bored witless and only playing on inertia, looking for something to take it's place for the next couple of years. GW2 is the only real contenter for the same target audience here, imo, even though it is much more pvp-oriented from what I can tell. You can't underestimate that WoW PvE is incredibly polished and actually challenging, but the core gameplay is stale by now. And this is SWTORs biggest fail imo, promising to make the engame pve completely different than wow, only for to end up being almost exactly the same but worse. 10 mil subscribers... SWTOR had the potential to steal a really huge chunk of it. My point also being that the premature launch forced the devs to take shortcuts and had they been able to make their own engine (and not use WAR's), and had they really innovated in the field of PvE, then GW2 would not be so anticipated as well. As it is now, GW2 is the next big hope for all the old, jaded MMO players.

[Intigo]

so I signed up for beta once or something, never played - now I got an email where they are telling me I can now do a free 7 day trial

they must be desperate~

[bundus]

Oceanic servers are full.
Mass migration when they opened created a swift decline in numbers in US servers.

[Space Panda]

i was getting incredibly bored with the game, and was longing for some space bushido anyway. me3 was the final nail in the coffin for me. if they "fix the game" in 1.2 (it will be total shit), then perhaps i'll return.

my guild is basically dead though. we all went through the same psychological transition, with me3 being the "catalyst" ololol

[noobcake]

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=363056

1.2 patch notes...fucking long. Also, lol at the PVP changes to where you can no longer get bags for BM commendations. Good luck new 50s!

Also, theyve abandoned all interest in Ilum by removing the daily and weekly PVP quests associated with the planet.

[dr axler]

Would anyone with an account mind sending me a trial invite?

[noobcake]

Would anyone with an account mind sending me a trial invite?

idk if i can do it on an account thats got it's sub running out soon, but i can try...inbox me where the invite should go

[dr axler]

Would anyone with an account mind sending me a trial invite?

idk if i can do it on an account thats got it's sub running out soon, but i can try...inbox me where the invite should go

you have been inboxed

[Space Panda]

if it doesn't work, i have 2 available. let me know.

[noobcake]

Would anyone with an account mind sending me a trial invite?

idk if i can do it on an account thats got it's sub running out soon, but i can try...inbox me where the invite should go

you have been inboxed

Done

Sent from my HTC EVO using Tapatalk (pissing FHC off since 2011)

[supersarge]

I stopped playing the free trial because I got bored. No idea why, just wasn't fun.

[Intigo]

I stopped playing the free trial because I got bored. No idea why, just wasn't fun.

dis

except I know why it's boring, it's because it's WoW in space

[lubica]

I stopped playing the free trial because I got bored. No idea why, just wasn't fun.

dis

except I know why it's boring, it's because it's WoW in space

nonono, Star Trek Online is WoW in space, this is WoW with lightsabers