I'll post my fit since I'm rolling from memory here but the crux of my argument is that you can kite shit outside of bastion and destroy shit in bastion. It does include links since you know, 4b ship, and it does include implants since you know, 4b ship.[Vargur, baar's]If you go full propless you get a second cap booster and a point.Go check out the videos and killmails of people using Marauders in PvP. Most of them are propless, and those that do have a prop, are running an MJD solely for it's GTFO ability. This isn't by mistake, or because they're stupid, it's because the idea of moving around the field then Bastioning up is more wishful thinking that the scrips in porn. Tournament play not withstanding, for obvious reasons. The power of a Marauder is based almost entirely off of it's Bastion module, use it to its best advantage.Neuts + webs with a partner sporting neuts + points.
Or you drop the invuln or the mwd for solo and fit a point instead. No-mwd you can fit dual heavy neuts.
You could drop the invuln and change one TE for a DCU.
Point is, except for massed neuts it's basically a maelstrom with a mjd, a buncha neuts, more dps, more projection and Bc speed and manoeuvrability.
It's obscenely good and it can do the maelstrom on gate thing but it can also kite shit around doing more damage than a mach with roughly the same projection and a lil' less speed.
It's by far the most versatile marauder, with same fit it tanks more than a golem and has neuts and speed and more dps.
I'm just sad it doesn't have glowing blue thingies sticking out in bastion like the other ones.
Or more resist.
So you're giving up gtfo if no scram AND 1500m/s before overheat for more tank ( doesn't need more tank) or more neut resistance ( it's already real resistant and an arma/bhaal will cap you with dual injectors anyway).
I mean in a fit like this it tanks like a maelstrom, moves like a mach, dps more than a mach, neuts more than a mach and has an mjd. It means that you can kite anything with bonused heavy neuts out of bastion and facefuck anything that doesn't have bonused heavy neuts in bastion.
I'll post some eft screenshots when I get back home, this is the penultimate solo battleship/battlecruiser.
Edit: heck, it's a better shield mach without any of the already limited downsides. It does have a tad less speed but that's it.
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
Large Micro Jump Drive
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Bastion Module I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Warrior II x5
You didn't specify rigs, but it's the only way I could get the speed numbers up to what you were talking about. The only way I could make it cap stable was running the nos, heating the booster, and having the X-Type MWD. It's not cap stable running the neuts in any config I could find.
First, don't compare a linked and implanted ship to a unlinked, unimplanted ship. That's Wolf level of retarded. A linked, crystaled T2 fit Cyclone will tank more than a unlinked unimplanted Bastioned Vargur. This isn't complicated, if you've got a collection of force multipliers, ships get much better. Compare ships without links or implants on both.
Machariel:
You are actually significantly slower than a Mach, 1k/1.5k vs 1.7k/2.5k. You don't do 1k DPS, you do 900, and it's not hitting at 60k, it's hitting at 50k; you have the exact same projection as the Mach. If you plan to be mobile, you can't consider your projection while in bastion. Mach actually does the 1k DPS, and has a bigger drone bay to boot. The only advantage in DPS you have over the Mach is slightly better tracking.
Maelstrom:
You tank a 50 DPS than the Mael does when you're out of Bastion, which is fairly negligible. The Vargur does project it's DPS better, but both hulls do the same DPS. Dropping into Bastion obviously skyrockets your tank, but let's be fair here, you're comparing a 300m ISK fit to a 4b ISK fit, it damned well be better in some way.
The Vargur is a great ship, don't get me wrong, but it's not a end all do all hull. The Machariel thing is dumb, because the reason the Mach is such a good ship is it's speed, which the Vargur just doesn't have. If you want to immitate the Mach onto some other hull, the Typhoon FI is a better option than the Vargur.
We also have to take into account the fact that coasting in/out of bastion is easy considering it's only 60s a pop, you can mjd, bastion, mwd one cycle and mjd again.
I'll do a comprehensive with/without links and implants later, I might be over hyped about it but I feel that ship to be the most versatile boat ive seen in a long time.
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