[PvP] Vargur

[RoemySchneider]

from or favorite installment "expanded probe launcher on everything"


[Vargur, Vargur fit]

Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1


- almost 40 sensor / 51 with heat -.-
- 7.5% tracking/lvl is ♥ even though it's on the marauder skill
- alas alas.... only 106mm scan res 8[ would recommend any frig - even a rookie ship - in gang and then squad warp. oneiros works, too -.-

[Sponk]

Doesn't that thing have a massive explosive and kinetic hole?

[Mfume]

Yes. And you must seriously hate MWDing, since you don't have a cap booster.

[Shiroi Okami]

That is a godawful vargur fit. Proper shield tanking eccm'd vargurs are perfectly viable, you don't need abominations like that

[RoemySchneider]

Yes. And you must seriously hate MWDing, since you don't have a cap booster.

i do actually.. in aynthing not breaking the 1.5km/s barrier -.-

[Daneel Trevize]

Had a stab at it, going without mwd I think you can kinda do a Mael like so (each mod/rig's ~100m isk except the 250m? booster)

[Vargur, Tank]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II

Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I
Tairei's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor

Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Large EMP Smartbomb II
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L

Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

Bring HG Crystals, Strong Blue Pill, ganglink Tengu & Proteus of course.
Should the web be traded for a tank mod? IDK about AC tracking. DG SBA gives a lot more tank.

Anything with an mwd and I can't see where it beats a Sleipnir for the same money except 2 utility highs.

And to be clear, get a cov ops for combat scanning + fast tackle (bombers can be even faster just to get a sudden point on things).

[Sponk]

Anti-EM or Anti kinetic?

[Daneel Trevize]

Anti-EM, it's not got T2 winmater shield resists in my EFT & PyFA. Armour's got the usual slope the other way.

[Mr Marram]

Anti-EM, it's not got T2 winmater shield resists in my EFT & PyFA. Armour's got the usual slope the other way.

It does have stage 1 T2 resists (like AFs), just turned off the DCU, invun and removed the anti-em rig and it has 36.2% EM-resists on shields.
I see what you mean about winmatar T2 resists, like the sleipnir has 62.5%.

[Sponk]

TIL...

[Helen]

TIL...

User was infracted for this post, either contribute to the thread properly or don't bother posting.

[Sparkus Volundar]

Anti-EM, it's not got T2 winmater shield resists in my EFT & PyFA. Armour's got the usual slope the other way.

It does have stage 1 T2 resists (like AFs), just turned off the DCU, invun and removed the anti-em rig and it has 36.2% EM-resists on shields.
I see what you mean about winmatar T2 resists, like the sleipnir has 62.5%.

You might have been thinking of the other T2 frigs. Jag and Wolf have good T2 resists.

How do you get 36.2% by the way? Had me flumuxed. Base Vargur EM resist is 25%, which would increase to 36% with a 15% bonus (e.g. DC armour bonus).

[Rebelike]

Anti-EM, it's not got T2 winmater shield resists in my EFT & PyFA. Armour's got the usual slope the other way.

It does have stage 1 T2 resists (like AFs), just turned off the DCU, invun and removed the anti-em rig and it has 36.2% EM-resists on shields.
I see what you mean about winmatar T2 resists, like the sleipnir has 62.5%.

You might have been thinking of the other T2 frigs. Jag and Wolf have good T2 resists.

How do you get 36.2% by the way? Had me flumuxed. Base Vargur EM resist is 25%, which would increase to 36% with a 15% bonus (e.g. DC armour bonus).

He didn't actually removed the invul, so that means he stil get resist bonus from it. Shield comp skills do work with invuls if they are turned off.

[sharptoast]

So, I was thinking the other day, could the vargur be a Mac with 2 Neuts and a way better tank.

The answer is no, primarily because of dat PG.

However, someone with far too much money (Lords) should totally throw a whole bunch of Force multipliers (Snakes/+5s/Double Booster/Probably a Sensor Integrity Link) at this fit, because its a Vargur, its awesome.

[Vargur, Lol]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Heavy 'Brave' Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800

Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
'Moat' Heavy Energy Neutralizer I
'Moat' Heavy Energy Neutralizer I
'Lance' Medium EMP Smartbomb I

Large Ancillary Current Router II
Large Ancillary Current Router II


Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5

Goes 3K/s with heat
3.1K DPS Tank with Blue Pill
Awesome tracking
2 Neuts
An SB
54K Falloff with EMP
A Web (Which is actually kind of bawler)

Anybody jelly enough? Probably not.










DAT 17 SENSOR STRENGTH THOUGH

[Daneel Trevize]

Tracking bonus and web, maxed links, fat BS? I think I'd have gone 2 gyro, 2 nano/overdrive rather than those TEs.

[sharptoast]

Could do, Second nano doesnt do a great deal tbh, and you would lose a lot of applied DPS past 25K without TEs.

[Daneel Trevize]

K, tbh I hadn't imported it, I just know those should swap & still fit. Also yay for 4x100% bonused guns & their low heat buildup. And huge cargo bay -> not so bad putting overdrives on.

[W0lf Crendraven]

Just to compare it a mach with pretty much the same fitting. The mach tanks more, goes faster, deals more dps, has better range, has more drones space, aligns almost twice as fast, has more cap, has more sensor strenght, has twice the sensor resolution and has more ehp, the vargur gets a neut and a smartbomb and more cargospace!

[sharptoast]

Mach tanks that well?

[W0lf Crendraven]

No. not with the same implants but a mach with crystals is still faster then a vargur with snakes. So if you put crystals in your peak tank is 3508dps, while still beeing 300m/s faster then the vargur!