[PVP] cerberus

[felix-arb]

Sooo

used to fly these all the time, were great at killing falcons at 200k but you dont see those anymore, these days with lack of range needed its nieche. saw a podla guy flying on the other day but he wouldnt tell me his fit, i still dual box with cerb on my alt sometimes as its easy

[Cerberus,]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

generally i would variate on a theme sometimes with eccm and range rigs etc but yeh.

oh yeh just because ive seen it


[Cerberus, New Setup 2]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II

Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

rigs? ninja edit: can fit a med nuet on second fit with +3

[RoemySchneider]

concept-fitting because of 650m³ cargo:

[Cerberus, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Photon Scattering Field II

Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

no, not serious

[prometheus]

[Cerberus, Standard - HAM]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Photon Scattering Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

525dps, 28(30k) uniform eHP
Run with standard crash, and zms100.

You will hit all battlecruisers (even nano) for full damage with Rage.
You will hit all unlinked cruisers (including Vaga & Cynabal) for full damage if they are unlinked and doing less than 90% of their top speed.
The only cruiser hull you don't hit very hard is the SFI, and obviously frigates are an issue.

Problem with the ship lies in its utter lack of hitpoints, and reliance on either a web or TP making it even weaker. TP works better btw.
If it had say.. 150 more grid it would be a far greater ship.

You can obviously sub in HMLs and drop the ACR. Less dps though, even against fast ships like the Cynabal.

[vaelshin]

[Cerb ASBL]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Internal Force Field Array I

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Target Painter II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster,Cap Booster 150
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II

'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Assault Missile

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

445 dps using CN scourge / 523 overheat
1376 ms / 1955 overheat
387 tanked / 539 overheat
18k EHP
cap's out running mwd in 1min 14seconds (seems very small period of time)
can hit out to 45kish



total EFT warrior fit. Wondering if viable for solo/small gang work. Unsubbed right now but urge to try ASB on every ship possible rising.

Is it too slow? and is it good enough on agility? maybe sac a BCU for a nanofiber?

There is most likely some other mod's I could have used but cant remember the specific name/cost of all the different ones. I know the internal FF is fairly pricey.

Is the TP worth it? is the tank enough?

[prometheus]

TP isn't worth it.
With crash, you're already slapping the shit out of cruiser+ ships within 50km.
Frigs need to be webbed.

Also,
absolutley zero ehp mean you're going to get spanked, guaranteed.

[Rudolf Miller]

Does anyone else think the Cerb could use a balancing overhaul? It seems like the fitting is very restrictive and it's only serviceable role is missile sniping whereas the zealot can both snipe and brawl (with sufficient tank) the vaga provides good nano dps with good damage projection the muninn has equal damage projection with more utility/drones yadda yadda yadda.

Does anyone agree with me? I have a soft spot for the caracal/cerb because it was one of the first fighting ships i trained for in eve.

[prometheus]

i agree and have talked about it a few times, most recently in my missile rebalance thread

[Spartan Dax]

Both Caldari Hacs needs a boost/change. I kinda miss the old days when my Dual ECCM cerb with missile velocity rigs was slapping those Falcons at 150k silly. Jamming never stopped those missiles in flight now did they?

These days the cerb has superfluos range, lacks speed, tank and cap.

[LordsServant]

There is only one good usage for this ship.


[Cerberus, hundy]
Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Draclira's Modified Reactor Control Unit
Draclira's Modified Reactor Control Unit

100MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Script
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Orbit any fight at 150k and whore on erry killmail/pick off frigs.

+ loki links + HG snakes.

You do 6.3km/sec pre heat, cap stable. You deal 229 dps up to ~180 km away. Nothing can really catch you (you're too fast) and as long as you're orbiting at 150, you shouldn't have any turning issues.

Other than that, ofc, this ship is horrible. =P

[vaelshin]

Nice to see the replys. Yeah rudolf I agree totally, the fitting is REALLY hard, im gonna play around a bit more with it maybe look at some HML's but then your really hurting your dps. Maybe it will allow for a LSE to be added on instead of the TP, but that seem's to go away from the ASB tanking(but prom is right the EHP is so extremely low).

It definetly does seem to slow as well. Too bad, cool ship wish it was better!

[OrangeAfroMan]

Cerb with HMLs, MWD, two damps and two sebos with nano+3x bcu was excellent but now obsolete.

Needs a lot more grid and cpu. Same for eagle and nighthawk and arguably the ferox.

[OrangeAfroMan]

This almost seems worth using:

[Cerberus, Cerberus - LASB HAM]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Scrambler II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

489 | 576 DPS w/ Scourge Rage HAMs
16.6k EHP (9.41k shield EHP)
366 | 474 tank
1505 | 2138 m/s
4.65s align
184 sig
133mil isk

Probably just going to sell mine though. This ship really needs more fittings or a redesign.

[Lex Fasces]

like a bad fast drake that will die to anything above cruiser sized in scram range?

[n0th]

Also cap dead after like 3 MWD cycles.
Its still better than the navy caracal in my humble opinion. Also the price tag (used to be 90ish, still cheapest HAC i think) kinda justifies taking this ship out if you really want to fly something cruiser-sized with missiles.
I mean everyone knows that the Cerb is utter shit (because it is), so the expectations are low.

I flew it once, before the whole ASB thing - like this:

[Cerberus, bad]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
E5 Prototype Energy Vampire

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

After a bit of pimping with implants (+3%) it does 660ish dps w/ rage and goes 1470 m/s.

[prometheus]

damn thing needs more grid & nighthawk bonuses so badly

[Losvar]

Needs something, it's by far the most useless HAC ever built.