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    The reason why the crow is the best 3 slot interceptor. Is the fact that it has a 37.5km lock range with only skills. If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    The reason why the crow is the best 3 slot interceptor. Is the fact that it has a 37.5km lock range with only skills. If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    It makes very little difference, with the letto you can roll a sig amp that brings your lock range up while having better speed, EHP and a tackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    The reason why the crow is the best 3 slot interceptor. Is the fact that it has a 37.5km lock range with only skills. If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    It makes very little difference, with the letto you can roll a sig amp that brings your lock range up while having better speed, EHP and a tackle.

    Stilleto has 4 med slots. That being said I would probably prefer a sensor booster over a signal amp on it anyway, lows can be used for dcu plus speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    If you told Albert Einstein about this, do you think he'd know why? I doubt it. Obviously he's not a fool. It's such an offensive and negative thing to put into your post. Don't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalira View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    If you told Albert Einstein about this, do you think he'd know why? I doubt it.
    So do I. Its pretty hard to talk once your dead. Posting is even harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalira View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    If you told Albert Einstein about this, do you think he'd know why? I doubt it.
    So do I. Its pretty hard to talk once your dead. Posting is even harder.
    Does this mean we should kill Cav to make it harder to post.

    Only joking Cav, I love you really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalira View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    If you told Albert Einstein about this, do you think he'd know why? I doubt it.
    So do I. Its pretty hard to talk once your dead. Posting is even harder.
    Exactly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by king dave View Post
    If you can't see why that is an advantage, then you are a fool.
    If you told Albert Einstein about this, do you think he'd know why? I doubt it.
    So do I. Its pretty hard to talk once your dead. Posting is even harder.
    Does this mean we should kill Cav to make it harder to post.

    Only joking Cav, I love you really.
    We try to frankenstein him and see if he could post then.

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    Necroing inb4Rubicon?

    Now Crow looks to be da man, Light Missiles / scram / point / MWD / MSE, what else could you wish for :>
    Last edited by destabilizator; November 17 2013 at 10:05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destabilizator View Post
    Necroing inb4Rubicon?

    Now Crow looks to be da man, Light Missiles / scram / point / MWD / MSE, what else could you wish for :>
    I too fit scrams on my LML ships...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by destabilizator View Post
    Necroing inb4Rubicon?

    Now Crow looks to be da man, Light Missiles / scram / point / MWD / MSE, what else could you wish for :>
    I too fit scrams on my LML ships...
    Zzz... Missiles are there so I can wail on target at point range and if needed, I can burn in and scram, so gank could actually catch up...

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    If you are just using it for tackling you should have a long point and a scram, also just use rockets because it means less fitting sacrifices, rockets kill drones faster and nobody gives a shit about your DPS anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by destabilizator View Post
    Necroing inb4Rubicon?

    Now Crow looks to be da man, Light Missiles / scram / point / MWD / MSE, what else could you wish for :>
    I too fit scrams on my LML ships...
    You realize that the new crows scram range is greater then a normal webs range?
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    I see you have read nietzsche's little known work "beyond boobs and butts".

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    Necroing inb4Rubicon?

    Now Crow looks to be da man, Light Missiles / scram / point / MWD / MSE, what else could you wish for :>
    I too fit scrams on my LML ships...
    You realize that the new crows scram range is greater then a normal webs range?
    13.5K heated?

    Your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
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    Necroing inb4Rubicon?

    Now Crow looks to be da man, Light Missiles / scram / point / MWD / MSE, what else could you wish for :>
    I too fit scrams on my LML ships...
    You realize that the new crows scram range is greater then a normal webs range?
    13.5K heated?

    Your point?
    Its way better antitackle then a web.
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    I see you have read nietzsche's little known work "beyond boobs and butts".

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post

    Its way better antitackle then a web.
    I think Sharptoast was referring to me fitting LMLs on ship with scram (long range weapon system vs. shortrange scram). I know it looks odd and I'd love to fly without scram, but I just hate when I'm tackling for a small gang or even a fleet of something bigger and they can't keep up with target due to it MWDing away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destabilizator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post

    Its way better antitackle then a web.
    I think Sharptoast was referring to me fitting LMLs on ship with scram (long range weapon system vs. shortrange scram). I know it looks odd and I'd love to fly without scram, but I just hate when I'm tackling for a small gang or even a fleet of something bigger and they can't keep up with target due to it MWDing away.
    I get what your saying, but I would say those situations (solo/fleet tackling) requires two completely different fits.

    And if you are fleet tackling the fitting sacrifices that LMLs require plus the fact that Rockets kill drones better means, use rockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by destabilizator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post

    Its way better antitackle then a web.
    I think Sharptoast was referring to me fitting LMLs on ship with scram (long range weapon system vs. shortrange scram). I know it looks odd and I'd love to fly without scram, but I just hate when I'm tackling for a small gang or even a fleet of something bigger and they can't keep up with target due to it MWDing away.
    Yes, and i assumed you were talking of using a scram instead of a web for antitackle (because one td usualy is enough), which is a very valid option. And as stated before the reason to take a scram over a web is range .
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    For a gang tackle crow, I'd probably go with one of these two options:

    [Crow, scram point - em rigs]
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    F-89 Synchronized Signal Amplifier

    Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Medium Shield Extender II

    Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
    Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
    Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

    Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    [Crow, scram point - dual nano]
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II

    Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Medium Shield Extender II

    Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
    Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
    Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

    Small Ionic Field Projector I
    Small Ionic Field Projector I

    The EM rigged one has 4.4k EHP, 101m sig while MWDing, and cruises at 4.1 km/s before links/heat/implants, 1200 mm scan res, and a lock range of 52 km before bonuses. The less tanky one has 3.5k EHP, 1075 mm scan res, cruises at 4.4 km/s, 95 m sig, and locks out to 62 km before bonuses.

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    I have to roll some numbers but a Medium Ancillary shield booster could provide more EHP in the average "tackle and wait for your friends" scenario then a MSE without increasing the sig. radius, actually it's even easier to fit then a MSE II.

    Regarding the scrambler, with Interceptors 5 the range bonus is amazing and often unexpected from your foes expecially in small gang warfare (like FW) where there are a lot of light kiters that need some punishment (Slicers, Hookbills etc)

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