T3 Frigates - Nom nom nom?

[whispous]

Command ships need a cap warfare immunity before T3 frigs get one.

[Shiroi Okami]

Command ships need a cap warfare immunity before T3 frigs get one.

Fuck no, neither need it. Cap warfare immune frigs (Especially if it was like a T3 AFs) would be unkillable by larger ships, and cap warfare immune sleipnirs and claymores would become nigh unstoppable unless you brought a blob big enough to break it's local tank.

[Tsubutai]

New T3s should be just like existing ships but with immunity to ECM. :3

[prometheus]

Command ships need at least 10 more SS each

Fixed that for you

[Mike deVoid]

SS = safespot?

[whispous]

Command ships need a cap warfare immunity before T3 frigs get one.

Fuck no, neither need it. Cap warfare immune frigs (Especially if it was like a T3 AFs) would be unkillable by larger ships, and cap warfare immune sleipnirs and claymores would become nigh unstoppable unless you brought a blob big enough to break it's local tank.

Get out. A neut immunity only realistically affects active tank ability, and command ships should be brawling ships for fighting say two or three battlecruisers.

[whispous]

SS = safespot?

sensor strength hurr

but they way command ships are, yes they also need 10 safespots to live

[Pattern]

Command ships need a cap warfare immunity before T3 frigs get one.

Fuck no, neither need it. Cap warfare immune frigs (Especially if it was like a T3 AFs) would be unkillable by larger ships, and cap warfare immune sleipnirs and claymores would become nigh unstoppable unless you brought a blob big enough to break it's local tank.

Get out. A neut immunity only realistically affects active tank ability, and command ships should be brawling ships for fighting say two or three battlecruisers.

With an active tank of what, 700dps ish?

[Shiroi Okami]

Command ships need a cap warfare immunity before T3 frigs get one.

Fuck no, neither need it. Cap warfare immune frigs (Especially if it was like a T3 AFs) would be unkillable by larger ships, and cap warfare immune sleipnirs and claymores would become nigh unstoppable unless you brought a blob big enough to break it's local tank.

Get out. A neut immunity only realistically affects active tank ability, and command ships should be brawling ships for fighting say two or three battlecruisers.

With what, 700 DPS tank?

Claymore breaks 4k dps tanked with a dg booster, crystals and tengu, and that's with an MWD and a scram. The only thing that can stop it is neuts. I like my claymores, but making them neut immune would make them retardedly powerful. Hell even without the crystals and tengu it still tanks over 2k dps. And you want to make it immune to neuts as well? :V

[Pattern]

The only thing that can stop it is neuts.

Or a handful of Maelstroms. Or a blob.

Also, faction/mods, tanking mods and implants should get the nanonerf treatment tbh, if only to stop these retarded "look how much it can tank in eft!!" comments.

[Shiroi Okami]

The only thing that can stop it is neuts.

Or a handful of Maelstroms. Or a blob.

Also, faction/mods, tanking mods and implants should get the nanonerf treatment tbh, if only to stop these retarded "look how much it can tank in eft!!" comments.

That was exactly my point. Only a significant blob is able to kill it once it is immune to neuts. I might be alone here, but encouraging blobtards to blob harder sounds like a really bad idea to me

[whispous]

I see your points.

Maybe some kind of stacking penalty bonus to taking neuts?

[Pattern]

Was going to post about how a blob is now "uber faction active tanking ships" EHP is worth in alpha or 1 dps more than whatever that could tank but then again it's a better definition than most.

[Shiroi Okami]

I see your points.

Maybe some kind of stacking penalty bonus to taking neuts?

This would actually be a good idea. I've thought for a while that like other ewar, neuts (and ecm) should be stacking penalised, in general. That said tho whisp why do you focus on command ships? They generally have pretty good cap by default, compared to active tanking battleships or cruisers

[whispous]

Because field commands need a pvp role

(Astarte notably)

[Shiroi Okami]

Because field commands need a pvp role

(Astarte notably)

I think that comes under 'fix hybrids/gallente' more than 'do something about neuts affecting command ships'. All of the CS are fine bar the vulture, eos and astarte, which all comes down to hybrids.

[whispous]

Because field commands need a pvp role

(Astarte notably)

I think that comes under 'fix hybrids/gallente' more than 'do something about neuts affecting command ships'. All of the CS are fine bar the vulture, eos and astarte, which all comes down to hybrids.

that and the weak tanks

[CastleBravo]

Just nerf neuts down to the same cap/s as nos.