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Thread: The South (Catch/Impass/Feythabolis/Immensea/Tenerifis/Omist)

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    The South (Catch/Impass/Feythabolis/Immensea/Tenerifis/Omist)

    About time this board has some activity. I intend on keeping this thread semi up-to-date with goings on in "The South" from a Raidendot perspective. Essentially, I'll post when I'm not crying myself to sleep about the Supercapital changes

    Quick update on the goings on from the last few days:

    -A- & co have started trying to retake stuff. So far their efforts seem to be focused on CNC- (currently owned by Ushra'khan), however, they tried something involving 8 Supercarriers in HED- just before DT 3 days ago. I believe at least 3 -A- Nyx's are (still) logged off in bubbles, but the Russians are 'caretaking' those so not 100% sure.

    Hey You offered INIT a ~Fair Fight~ not involving Supers in Curse but they declined. Maybe they don't like ~Fair Fights~?
    Anyway, Hey You took it personally proceeded to take a gang to rage reinforce a staging POS in Curse a couple of days later, losing a dread in the process. No-one really gave even a single fuck about the tower so nothing came of it. :HeyYou:

    Also, we had a nice little fight with -A- over CNC- last night, which I'll post separately.

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    CNC BR from Raidendot Perspective. Apologies in advance for Wall of Text :P


    CNC Ihub was coming out of its last Reinforced Timer so we expected -A- to form in full force. We formed up 80 or so Pulse Abaddons with 5 Triage carriers and sent out the Scouts to see what we had to deal with.
    -A- formed a 130 man gang in Alpha Tempests / Maelstroms and Scimitars on a Titan. INIT/Curse guys also had a large number of ships formed, but there was no intel to suggest whether or not they were coming our way.
    Whilst -A- were waiting on an online Titan, we moved Carriers to a midpoint and the main fleet to 1 jump out, and waited for -A- to make their move.

    Sure enough, -A- bridged in and the fight was on. 3 of the Triage carriers made it through the first cyno (although 1 landed at a safe) and, after some confusion, Triaged. The initial exchange of fire saw -A- burning out of bubbles and warping off to a gate. Triage reps held except for an early couple of Abaddon losses and our cyno ship, whilst -A- appeared to take about 10 losses.

    -A- bailed to a neighbouring system, and a random WN Drake Fleet gave chase (not sure if WN were batphoned or just happened to be there). Our Abaddon fleet also followed -A-, jumping in behind them and failing to snag anyone. Meanwhile, we brought in our 2 additional triage carriers to CNC that had missed the initial cyno (-A- killed it fast, props). All Triage cycles dropped whilst -A- were regrouping next door, so all 5 Carriers moved to the gate both -A- and our Abaddons had exited through.

    -A- warped back to the gate and re-entered CNC, burning off the gate on the CNC side and Alpha-ing through a Thanatos and a tackle Loki before either could get reps (I'm unsure if the carrier was late to broadcast, or we were just too slow to lock without Triage). Our Abaddon fleet re-entered CNC and round 2 began. 2 of our Carriers entered triage whilst drifting in the direction of -A-'s align whilst the Pulse fit abaddongues tried to stay in range and deal damage. Reps were holding for people that broadcasted early enough, but -A- probably came out on top (isk wise) due to the early kills and another of our Lokis getting too adventurous and moving 70km from the Carriers to try and get a tackle (and promptly dying). We despatched 15 or so -A- BS in return for our losses.

    -A- once again burned off and exited the system to regroup. Our carriers began to rep the ihub whilst we waited to see if -A- would come back. Scouts in LGK reported -A- bridging further reinforcements.

    They did indeed return for one last go at us, and this time they had enough Alpha to make it through an Abaddon before Triage Carriers could lock. Ships went down fast on both sides, but Raiden probably held the advantage in this round, killing roughly 15-20 BS for 5-10 Abaddon Losses.

    -A- bailed back to LGK, the Ihub was repped (to 50% armour, we left the rest to Ushra'Khan) and the SBUs were destroyed. I believe -A- have since reinforced the Ihub again so we can hopefully look forward to another good fight this weekend.


    The Battle overviews show a lot of WN present, but I am pretty sure they were almost never on the field so it probably looks quite skewed. Looks like losses were roughly even but we held the field, even though I think the Russians looted everything whilst we were still fighting
    UK supers were only used to kill SBUs / Rep the Ihub at the end.

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&...ll_id=10812817
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=1017

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    Will try post updates from the weekend's events today.


    Friday night's pre-arranged 'fight' with INIT
    On Friday night We had a fleet formed to try and hotdrop some CVA (which wasn't working out) when INIT contacted us requesting an arranged fight.

    We agreed on 50 (the number we had in fleet at the time), no supers and to meet halfway between our staging systems.

    We moved out immediately and waited in the agreed system. INIT kept us waiting for about 45 minutes (by which time our fleet was roughly 60 strong), then complained that we'd brought too many, despite having more than enough numbers to cope themselves (90 in their staging system).
    They made us move to 2 jumps out of their staging system whilst they scouted our fleet to discover we'd brought Tengus. INIT formed up their Ewar Drake / Tempest hit-and-run fleet to try and counter us and refused to enter the system we were in, instead forcing us to jump in to them at their range.

    We took the fight on the gate, and the initial exchange of fire saw us trade 2 Scimis and a Sabre (who failed to hold cloak) for a Drake and a Tempest kill.

    What followed can only be described as "fagging around". We refused to engage at their range. They refused to engage at our range. This went on for roughly 40 minutes with not a single kill / loss being exchanged. During this time, our original FC got Family Aggro and had to hand over the fleet to someone else.

    The stand-in FC kept up the fagging around for another 10 minutes or so, then decided he'd had enough and set us off home. INIT gave chase and snagged a few stragglers (natural selection at it's finest). Once we returned to D-G, our staging system, we formed up on the in gate and waited for INIT. INIT jumped in and engaged at our range (for the first time in the evening). Rather than take the fight, our esteemed FC decided he was tired (and didn't want that E-Honoure anyway) and simply warped 10 titans to the gate. INIT bailed, after asploding a HIC and Tengu of ours, losing only a Sabre in return.

    The entire debacle took roughly 3 hours. End numbers were roughly 60 INIT vs 60 Raidendot.

    KB links from the only ship violence that actually happened:
    http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill...d&kll_id=37027
    http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill...d&kll_id=37030

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    So... basically both alliances are terrible rite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    So... basically both alliances are terrible rite?
    A more accurate summary would be "both alliances are risk averse faggots"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    So... basically both alliances are terrible rite?
    A more accurate summary would be "both alliances are risk averse faggots"
    Pretty much this.
    Fag with Ewar or Fag with Supers, its the same damn thing really.

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    RA Whelp and CNC

    We were forming up in Abaddons on Saturday to defend 2 systems -A- had reinforced earlier on in the week, when RA batphoned us to Wicked Creek because they were losing Supers hand over fist. We quickly formed a decent Supercapital gang with support and started to move. RA did not have a cyno chain in place and, between ourselves and WN, we were missing 1 cyno on the route.

    By the time the cyno was in place and we got in to the fight it was more or less over. Our entry cyno was 100km+ off the hostiles, but on jump in we primaried a couple of Erebus' (Erebii?) that were already moving inside the shield but they didn't take any significant amount of damage before they re-entered. We primaried an Aeon that was still outside the shield and took him to 30% armour before he made it back inside.

    From what I could gather, RA had destroyed a Curse subcap fleet on the Gypsy Band POS with their titans earlier, but then proceeded to sit the supers on grid whilst they looted the field. They supposedly had no scout in any of the hostile staging systems, so failed to notice them reforming in subcaps and supers. By the time Curse & co were back on field they were still sat outside the hostile POS and they didn't contact us or WN until 2 of their Titans were already down. The rest the Killboards show




    Meanwhile, -A- took the opportunity to try and get a headstart in the systems coming out of reinforced. A medium sized WN bomber gang griefed them a little whilst we were still moving back to Catch. (Bombing run 1 & Bombing run 2)

    It took us a fair while to move the supercaps back to our Staging systems (Jesus Balls, WN were slow), where we logged them off and bolstered our Abaddon numbers.

    We jumped in to CNC with roughly 80 abaddons/guardians vs roughly 110 man -A- AlphaFleet. -A- immedietely fled the field, but we managed to snag a handful of Tempests on their way out. Sidenote, but -A- have some serious "tactical withdrawal" skills - it was quite literally 90 seconds between us jumping in to CNC and them Cyno-ing back to LGK.

    -A- docked and it didn't look like they were reforming, so we brought in Supers to finish the SBUs off quickly and left the system. WN saved the other system -A- had reinforced later on with no resistance of note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Hun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    So... basically both alliances are terrible rite?
    A more accurate summary would be "both alliances are risk averse faggots"
    Pretty much this.
    Fag with Ewar or Fag with Supers, its the same damn thing really.
    I see what you did there.

    @BR's

    nice to see whats going on on the other side. could do with a bit less butthurt tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fara View Post
    nice to see whats going on on the other side. could do with a bit less butthurt tho.
    Meh, it's probably more bitter than butthurt. I will try and tone it down in the future though. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyly View Post
    Hey You offered INIT a ~Fair Fight~ not involving Supers in Curse but they declined. Maybe they don't like ~Fair Fights~?
    *sigh*

    Do you really want to go there? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyly View Post
    Hey You offered INIT a ~Fair Fight~ not involving Supers in Curse but they declined. Maybe they don't like ~Fair Fights~?
    *sigh*

    Do you really want to go there? Really?
    Ahahaha, took you long enough :P

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    Quick update:


    Had an interesting 3 way on Sunday involving RDN./WN, INIT and -A-...

    We got word from a medium sized WN drake gang that there was an INIT fleet and -A- fleet inside U-QVWD.
    We assumed they were working together initially, but scouts reported that they were shooting each other. We quickly formed a good sized Tengu Fleet and WN bridged us in.

    The initial cyno was pretty bad, landing us 15km away from the INIT fleet (who were mainly in Abaddons). We lost a HIC immediately and started burning out of the bubbles. It was clear from the get-go that the hostiles didn't have enough repping power to hold against the Tengu DPS, and targets were going down quickly. We lost a further 2 Tengu's and a HIC during the fight, mainly because people were incapable of anchoring up and ranged the Logistics. At one point, one of our guys Wirox Crotikus in a Tengu was off anchor inside the enemy gang. He got to 10% hull before being repped to full by the Logistics. I believe it was this point INIT decided to de-aggro and jump out through the gate, taking a few losses whilst they did so.

    Killboards are messy, as they are with all 3 ways, but I've crunched some raw numbers in case anyone is interested.

    RDN/WN INIT -A-
    Ships: 130 85 28
    Kills: 39 33 22
    Losses: 4 13 23
    ISK Lost(b): 1.28 3.43 2.96

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10831867

    Pretty uneven numbers from the KBs but was still good fun from my perspective as quite a few targets got to low shield before catching reps.
    I am pretty sure -A- had more than the 28 that the killboards show, but I don't think they actually got any killing blows on either us or the INIT gang they were initially engaged with. I was in Logistics the entire fight so I can't shed any light on "real" numbers. Perhaps someone from INIT could give us a clearer picture on numbers and/or their engagement with -A-.



    We also formed up yesterday for an -A- timer, but -A- only had 50 drakes formed and WN decided to just drop supers and nuke the SBUs. We stood down.

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    -A- have to be on some of their own losses with those numbers....

    Sounds like fun for you guys in the totally non-pro tengublob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody_Holme View Post
    -A- have to be on some of their own losses with those numbers....

    Sounds like fun for you guys in the totally non-pro tengublob
    ScrubGu blob. We just fly them like Drakes really.

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    And we are wonderfully good with drakes.


    

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    Fleet engagement in CNC- summary:

    The CNC station owned by U'K exited reinforced today at 1430. -A- and Nulli Secunda presence in the system arrived about ten minutes prior to this, when they bridged in through a cyno lit just below the station. U'K scouts report additional enemies in FAT-6P waiting to jump in through the gate. Total in local at this time is about 200.

    U'K waits at POS while -A- and other badskis inappropriately touch our station. Friends of U'K, White Noise and Raiden had reinforcements standing by, waiting for an assessment of final enemy numbers in CNC and surrounding systems. Various cynos continue going up and scouts are dispatched to get a count of enemy supers, which at this time was unknown. Scouts then report that the hostile fleet has warped away from the station.

    A fleet vs. fleet engagement is now proactively sought. Advanced party of U'K's allies jumps in and local increases towards 300. Further reinforcements still standing by. The battle in CNC kicked off with a skirmish as U'K battleships warped to the station to engage a lone -A- Dread. We "knew" he must have been bait and that was fine with us since we wanted to attract the attention of the main -A-/Nulli Secunda fleet, but much to our surprise nobody apart from two Armageddons came to his aid and he was destroyed before his self-destruct sequence could complete.

      Spoiler:


    The main fleet engagement starts immediately after this event. A U'K scout gets a warp-in on the enemy fleet in open space and the combined force of U'K, Raiden, and White Noise jumps in to engage. At least nine friendly Titans cyno in once the fleet engagement is underway and enemy battleships start dropping. Enemy supercap presence in the battle appears negligible unless fighters were being assigned (which I did not notice.) Local total now exceeding 400. Module lag of up to 10 seconds allowed the bulk of the enemy force to retreat from the system through the gates once the bubbles on the field started going down and individual enemy ships became difficult to tackle with individual points. Friendly forces pursue the enemy fleet through FAT-6P, but then the U'K contingent of some 40 pilots was instructed to return to CNC and prepare to rep. How far Raiden and White Noise chased them beyond FAT- I don't know.

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    At least two of the -A- SBU's in CNC were taken down by the time the rep party started. U'K pilots switch to carriers/logis and start repping. White Noise supercarriers provide welcome assistance.

    Not the most amazing kill/loss ratio by nullsec standards overall, but still very much in our favor.
    http://www.ushrakhan.com/edk/?a=kill...&kll_id=146812

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    Last edited by Dirk Magnum; October 30 2011 at 02:46:46 AM.

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    Hostile titan logged off with aggression in Stain last night. We scrambled to get there within the 15 minutes (2 mid jumps for Super Carriers).

    We managed to arrive and start pounding on it with only 4-5 minutes left on aggression timer, but it disappeared in 50% hull.

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    Well, that was a very civilised little fight just had:
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=1758

    Nothing quite like being out of cap boosters, rolling with standard instead of scorch when you have no juice left and being rescued from 4%-5% armour twice, and structure once. All in all a very pleasant afternoon / evening.

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    As you asked so nicely I’ll oblige. Note, this is written from an En Garde grunts pov (pet, ahem, ‘training’ alliance of -A-) so the exact movements of the Red Arrow team may be a bit off and much is plagiarised from another post from their pov.

    The battle revolved around the station and ihub shield timers for UEPO, which exited within an hour of each other.

    Red Arrow (RA, xXdeathXx, WTF, RED.L, ARISE, UPS & co.) dealt with the sbu’ed 46DP (the Red Arrow primary staging system) straight after DT and stayed formed for UEPO.

    -A- & co. started forming at around 14:25, using titan bridges and jbs from LGK to TSG to merge with ROL & co. At this point -A- and assorted were at about 140 with around 75 from ROL and friends. Using more force projection the fleet travelled from TSG to AXDX to Z-7 and then jump into the Red Arrow fleet sitting on gate in UEPO.

    1st Round begins, both side were getting hammered and it was a tough one to call until the final stages. S2N turn up part way through the fight, wading in against Red Arrow. ROL & peeps. were awesome in reshipping which went some way towards holding more DPS on the field for longer.

    Some wicked bombing runs on behalf of Red Arrow during the fight were keeping our geddons between 4%-40% armour and the Red Arrow scorpions were very nasty, keeping a large bulk of our logis jammed from extreme range. Finally the tide starts to work out which way she wants to turn and Red Arrow pull out, leaving -A-, ROL & co. finish off some more RA carriers. Red Arrow reship, RA doing so in 77S8.

    In the meantime, with the field temporarily clear, the UEPO ihub is reinforced, and -A-, ROL & co. start to work on the station.

    An already reinforced Red Arrow fleet adds an impressive AHAC contingent to the fleet comp for Round 2 and jump into us on gate before the station is done. The AHAC’s mince our already reduced logistics and we start taking heavy casualties; we have to de-aggress and jump through, docking in 66-.

    While -A-, ROL & co. wait for more reinforcements, Red Arrow destroy some SBU’s, effectively saving the system.

    -A-, ROL & co. break out of the station scattering some scrub drake fleet intent on camping us in (odd move from those drakes, it was a bit like using a chocolate fire guard for a raging fire), and with reinforcements and the addition of INIT turning up to lend a hand, back in we go again for Round 3, once again fighting on the gate. The Red Arrow AHACs take the bulk of the DPS while RA’s fleet bounce to a regroup point due to a communication error, leaving part of the fleet fighting by themselves for around 4 minutes, before finally returning into the fray.

    Despite personally being primary twice and repped up from structure (logi pilots telling me how :awesome: I am for not turning hardeners on while I glumly look at the standard CTA geddon which has exactly 1 dcu for any manual tank mods) the fight quickly sways one way and with more carriers down Red Arrow leave the field. We head home having held the field on the 3rd engagement. Later Red Arrow repairs the station.

    Some footage form our side if you interested (it’s boring tbh but gives you some sense of the scale of the fight): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djt3smofKPQ

    KB: http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=1758

    On a different note, another good fight last night despite pulling the WIN BUTTON trigger a little late: http://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=562621
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