LOL- Magic man thread (AP Champs)

[Bacchanalian]

Yeah I've been noticing a lot of asshat junglers lately like your example of a Kayle and what I said previously, so I'm starting to look at Athene more. It's a beautiful item, tried it on Kassadin like I previously mentioned, think it may replace AA Staff for him tbh.

AAS is good on characters who can stack the tear early by casting a spell every 3 seconds. That's why I get it on Karth, the manaregen is useless for him.

This. If my jungler is mana dependent (mumu for example), I'll let him have blue and get an early wand+tear and THEN go hat. It makes me a little less useful in terms of damage output early game, but with Karthus I never have problems farming my lane except against Zyra or a good Swain, so I don't worry much about it. If the game looks lopsided really early, like it might be a 20-25 minute game, I'll skip the tear and just rush hat, but it's rare that a game is so lopsided by my first back (generally around level 6, maybe a bit later if I haven't managed to get a kill/assist/really good farm by then--I generally want to back and buy at least one item+2 wards mid-lane on my first back, so I'll delay it until I can if I can't right at 6). And in the games where I don't build a tear-->AA, I wind up with slightly less AP with a full build than I get with it, so if I'm in doubt I go with AA.

[TroN]

What do people think about Diana as an AP mid? Her Q does a lot of damage and is on a fairly short cool down and her passive makes clearing waves a real breeze.

[Raxxman]

What do people think about Diana as an AP mid? Her Q does a lot of damage and is on a fairly short cool down and her passive makes clearing waves a real breeze.

I like the bendy bolt of doom from the bushes followed by the RWEQRR LOL YOU DEAD BRO jungle aspect of her more.

[Sudden]

What do people think about Diana as an AP mid? Her Q does a lot of damage and is on a fairly short cool down and her passive makes clearing waves a real breeze.

She does well mid, just push your lane and roam a la Ahri to get that delicious income.

[felix-arb]

boots double dorans on anything but ryze, but who plays ryze


more to the point why would anyone play anything but cassio or karthus mid?

[dynamical]

boots double dorans on anything but ryze, but who plays ryze


more to the point why would anyone play anything but cassio or karthus mid?

Because gragas is a beast.

[felix-arb]

boots double dorans on anything but ryze, but who plays ryze


more to the point why would anyone play anything but cassio or karthus mid?

Because gragas is a beast.

you got me there, i like the kennen mid, vlad top combo tsm do too

[XenosisReaper]

I am terrible and have just started playing Ahri

Help.

[Nobody_Holme]

Ahri either works for you, orr not.

Also, boots + 3 start not optional, against most lanes sit back and be passive to see if they'll let you get free harrass by coming forward, if you're 6 and they on half or less hp, land taunt and kill. Also, Q goes slightly beyond where the marker is, and the verp tip of the spell hits for both effects at once.

[XenosisReaper]

Ahri either works for you, orr not.

Also, boots + 3 start not optional, against most lanes sit back and be passive to see if they'll let you get free harrass by coming forward, if you're 6 and they on half or less hp, land taunt and kill. Also, Q goes slightly beyond where the marker is, and the verp tip of the spell hits for both effects at once.

Yeah I've done a few games and her burst if you land everything at once is hilarious

Also having 3 flashes on a 90sec CD is fun as well

[Voulture]

Start boots 3 pots, 2 doran's ringes, kage pick, upgrade to sorc boots. That's your early core. Abysall is good, and amazing if against high ap, can skip it though to finish dfg and work for rylai or deathcap. Potentially both. She is pretty easy. One lvl in E early, then depending on your lane you max W or Q. Want to have both maxed as fast but putting 2-3 points into taunt never harm.

[Venec]

Be a man: fuck dorans and kage, rush deatchcap tbh.

[XenosisReaper]

currently I've gone boots > sorc boots > deathcap > scepter and then whatever

Working well, played 9 games, won 7 and lost 2 (1 because my team were honestly legitimately terrible and 1 because I was using a touchpad and drunk)

edit: I thought she was mainly a midlane? Mainly maxing Q if against ranged or W if against melee (because lol prioritize champs)

[Nobody_Holme]

She's a viable AD carry, bizarely enough, pair with a support with non-ult cc for a clean kill on some enemy lanes without hope of escape, and with another mobile mid for untouchable carries.

Also, against most melees I honestly prefer to push and poke with maxed Q over fighting them with W, and just go gank vulnerable sidelanes all day.

[DrunkenOne]

Cho mid all day

[dynamical]

Cho all day

[Sudden]

Cho all day

[Venec]

Gone back to playing mid after a couple of months going top in nearly every game. Felt right back at home. Sorry Ahri, Vlad, Cass, Lux and Swain for leaving you alone for so long <3

[Voulture]

Why you are still not on west

[Venec]

Lemme save up some monies (poor student, etc) and it'll be the first thing what I'll do.