LOL- Magic man thread (AP Champs)

[cullnean]

Replay thread was getting derailed, so here's a new thread to discuss mage's/solomid AP builds!

Doran's ring to start is wrong KK!

flingo changed my title, enjoy a new one

[FUzziBabes]

I start meki pendant and 2 mana pots so I can harrass really early

[Serious Bob]

I actually don't think a doran ring start is always bad. If your champ can push harder and has longer range harass then you can farm up and find a suitable time to b and get boots more dorans.

[cullnean]

I start meki pendant and 2 mana pots so I can harrass really early

surley not on all ap champs?

i wouldnt do that on say karthus or swain

[Voulture]

I start meki pendant and 2 mana pots so I can harrass really early

"May the boots be with you"

[evil edna]

if you have longer range harass then imo boots are even more important, you can kite the other guy then and harass without danger.

see orianna pre nerf and cass

[Nicho Void]

Why the doran's hate?

[Zekk Pacus]

Because it gives zero sustain in what is a poke heavy lane.

[Nicho Void]

Because it gives zero sustain in what is a poke heavy lane.

On champs with superior range, it gives increased mana regen allowing more pokes, plus an HP buffer.

[TroN]

I am terrible at AP mid, but when I do play it I usually go Boots+pot.

[filingo]

what runes do people suggest?

i have

mpen
mana regen
scaling ap
flat ap quints

for my caster page

[evil edna]

i have 2 caster rune pages

one for annie which is flat ap quints, flat ap blues, flat ap yellows and spell pen reds

for everyone else i use flat ap quints, mana regen yellows and cooldown reduction blues and spell pen reds

[Voulture]

They are good. Honestly, as long as you got red mpen and ap quints you cannot go wrong.

As for doran: hp buffor is irrelevant, if you get ganked by jungle without boots, you will die. You can poke a bit harder than enemy, you canno dodge anything with your base speed while enemy can. You will be lower hp every poke exchange, enemy will heal up with his pots. In a few minutes you will find yourself being zoned from creeps.

[cullnean]

caster runes are

mpen reds
mana regen yellows
ap blues
ap quints

[Blutreiter]

I put on my Negatron and my Rabadons Cap.

[Kanv]

i'm here for my a wizard

[Serious Bob]

They are good. Honestly, as long as you got red mpen and ap quints you cannot go wrong.

As for doran: hp buffor is irrelevant, if you get ganked by jungle without boots, you will die. You can poke a bit harder than enemy, you canno dodge anything with your base speed while enemy can. You will be lower hp every poke exchange, enemy will heal up with his pots. In a few minutes you will find yourself being zoned from creeps.

I like dorans on gragas, he gets sustain from the mana regen and can e away from harm. Boots is a good choice but I don't feel doran is completely worthless. (And I've seen top level players go doran too.)

[TroN]

I too go dorans on gragas thinking about it.

[evil edna]

thats bad, go boots then 3x dorans

[filingo]

MOAR DORANS = MOAR POWER RIGHT