Just as extra loot for whoever manages to catch me, sorta a "grats heres a nice prize on top of my faction launcher and CPU mods, cry yourself to sleep if it didn't drop tho?" =POriginally Posted by Warmenhoven
Offlined A-type invuln?
[Loki, Small Gang Active]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Internal Force Field Array I
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Shadow Serpentis Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x5
83.4 / 73.4 / 72.1 / 76.8 resists (26.8k ehp)
boosts 413.8hp/s omni for each LASB
400 deeps or so.
Last edited by Sponk; June 20 2012 at 12:40:03 AM.
Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.
"You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."
[Loki, asb madness]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Domination Warp Scrambler
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150
10MN Afterburner II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Inferno Assault Missile
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hammerhead II x4
The CPU and grid is pretty limiting. The cool subs take away grid/cpu. So you gotta settle with some of the more meh ones.
804 deeps tank with both running before tengu/crystals/pill
533 deeps before implants
Could use a lot of refinement. No way in hell you pull off a useable dual xlasb on the loki that actually has any value to a fleet or solo.
Challenge accepted!
[Loki, Loki - ASB]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Internal Force Field Array I
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Assault Missile
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
----
Shhh. Hear that? That's the sound of this wretched, malformed lump of a ship begging to be put out of its misery.
546 DPS before heat or implants
1244 tank per XLASB
2km/sec
-O
I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those Thukkers, that way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody.
what the fuck
not gonna repeat the post i already made
jesus christ
I do believe this is the first time a T2 ship wholly outperforms a T3 ship designed (as best as it can) to do the same thing. Slep can and will trash an equivalently designed loki. Hell... a claymore can too >.<
Also, 5 fitting mods vs my 2 :P
[e]
< our loki fits
Last edited by Rudolf Miller; June 20 2012 at 11:11:52 AM.
Spoiler:
161 sig
30k EHP
613 tank with one asb before multipliers
630 deeps before heat/imps
Or for more tank:
Spoiler:
157 sig
37k EHP
863 tank with one asb + heated invuln before multipliers
521 deeps before heat/imps
[EDIT!]: I may have derped a bit with the tank numbers, cant remember if i changed back to omni dmg from em-therm-kin spread (but who's going to shoot exp at you?)
[edit]: yup i derped, updated stats, but like i said who shoots exp these days?
Last edited by Warmenhoven; June 20 2012 at 06:47:03 PM.
all minnie ships would shoot explosive at you. gila and ishtar may drone you with valks and stuffs?
Do like that first onet hough. hows she handle?
"If there's one thing we can practically do in our sleep, it's churn out expansions" Kristoffer Touborg, CCP 2013
Wouldn't personally want to run it without crystals/tengu which i dont have/cant run avec my internets atm =[ (so the short answer is no idea =p )all minnie ships would shoot explosive at you. gila and ishtar may drone you with valks and stuffs?
Do like that first onet hough. hows she handle?
Who needs fitting mods?
[Loki, Garmon's Loki (Shield) combats XL ASB]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x5
Cheap and more agile to boot.
That's a cool fit but I have a few questions.
1) The DPS output seems kind of anemic and that's after a flight of hobgob IIs rather than dishonour drones.
2) Scram makes you commit at close range which is fine but doesn't lack of web leave you in a precarious situation that basically leaves you fucked if you can't pull range to limit transversal and apply DPS?
3) The window for landing kills seems smallish when at the 40 second mark of booster use you'll need to disengage to get to a safer place to reload.
4) 280m3 cargohold limits the length of stay in hostile areas I'd imagine significantly. When I flew my derpy cloaki I had trouble having room for loot much less enough ammo and charges.
It's derived from his Loki, both it and the Cyna have huge cap issues with regular SB. Also you won't need to perma-rep. At least the 1 ASB doesn't take any effort to fit in this case. You make very valid points, but if it worked before with snakes and links, it should be at least as good after, with a more reliable tank while you have charges, slightly more speed & agility, range & tracking, and less cost. If those other ASB fits are here, we can have this one too
As for range control/GTFO inside scram, it does >5.3km/s OH.
Last edited by Daneel Trevize; August 8 2012 at 01:27:38 PM. Reason: wrong fit's OH speed
So, moving away from inappropriate levels of fitting module abuse, this is what I would fly if I had isk, 2 T3 Boosters, Snakes and Balls.
[Loki, lrn2spendisk]
Republic Fleet Nanofiber Structure
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Corelum C-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
'Ditch' Medium Energy Neutralizer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Flew a cheaper version for a while but i didnt use it enough so I sold it and bought like 12 Hurricanes instead, you can swap out the storyline neut for a faction with a 2% grid, if you feel thats worth sacfricing the Omega/your poor like me and dont have snakes. Has like no cap issues at all, can basically perma run everything, (Neuting + MWDing + Tackling gives like 6 Mins cap) which is really nice because it means landing on top of a shield Cane with 2 Neuts wont fuck you up too much.
DPS is a little anemic, but as long as you play it cool and keep webbing down and killing tackle you shouldnt be under too much pressure to end the engagement, this thing goes shit fast and with that 57k Unheated web you are hard as fuck to tackle. Nuet is for thosemoments when a dual prop Dramiel lands on you and fucks your shit.
Titanium Sabot drops the DPS a bit further, but gives you better range and tracking than EMP, further increasing your ability to rape tackle.
5.3 w/ OL Snakes and Links, 57 K Web, 45K Point, 83K EHP with Tengu links.
Its smexy and I wish I had isk.
Last edited by sharptoast; August 17 2012 at 01:56:29 PM. Reason: Fixed the Web/Prop mod to be the right types.
isn't this just a couple of bill to mostly kill frigates? (which you can do fine/better with a 9m coercer)
Ok, so I watched HYDRA use & lose some 100mn AB ASB lokis trying to kill suicidal tacklers last night (not sure if they had ganglinks & implants, cheap fits and all that).
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14375339
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14375340
Loki without a (bonused) web is back in my mind as being just wrong, webs are so powerful and reliable especially if you're playing the kill tacklers game. So, where they went without the 5th mid, and I'd suggested an invuln when having that slot, perhaps have the web instead?
Not that they hadn't had success beforehand
http://hydra.killmail.org/?a=kill_re...ll_id=14375154
http://hydra.killmail.org/?a=kill_re...ll_id=14373987
But once you're dealing with enough frigs that you need the loki's abilities over something cheaper, you'd better have scouted that they're not with enough ranged dps to ruin your day even if only a few get a shot off before you're out of lock range again and they're waiting to rewarp to tacklers.
Seems this ship will never have enough slots to have all the speed, dps, tank and tackle you'll want. CCP balance something for once?!
It can kill other stuff very well, I emphasized killing tackle because not being tackled is life in a ship like that.
Designed this mainly for killing ratting Tengus, even of the 100mn variety. Will see how it does vs other targets.
[Loki, Loki - XLASB 10mn AB]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Warp Disruptor II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
411 | 473 DPS w/ RF EMP @ 1.5+12km
25.7k EHP (15.5k shield EHP)
951.2 tank (amounts to 50.3k EHP per 13 charges+25.7k EHP = 76k total EHP)
847 | 1141 m/s
4.94s align
If CCP nerfs ASBs as planned then this fit will be worthless along with every other single ASB ship.
Actually an '06.
EVE: OrangeAfroMan
Dust514: Andrelommech
MWO: Northern Nomad
Changed the fit up a bit. I like this one more, going to give it a whirl.
[Loki, Loki - GHO]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Warp Disruptor II
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
411 | 473 DPS w/ RF EMP/Fusion/PP
66.4k EHP (55.3k / 6.09k / 5.03k)
774 | 1043 m/s
5.87s align (non-AB)
204 sig
We'll see how she goes.
Actually an '06.
EVE: OrangeAfroMan
Dust514: Andrelommech
MWO: Northern Nomad
Lanalor posted up a BR in the wormhole thread about him almost loosing an Archon to a botched cross-jump op. The video posted a bit later showed a single plate armor Loki, so I had to check it out. Turns out, it's not bad, not bad at all.
Spoiler:
Effective HP: 117,607
Armor Resists - EM: 94.61%, Ex: 77.05%, Ki: 80.87%, Th: 82.48%
DPS: 350
870 m/s
Dropping to just one plate means you can swap to the SCI instead of the PCM giving you another mid. Web, point, dual prop, whatever you want. I like three webs. Drop a Gyro for a DC II if you want more tank. I suppose you could go full tank if you wanted(lol Loki DPS anyway amirite?). Go for the Augmented Capacitor Reservoir if DPS actually means something to you for an extra turret.
Last edited by Cue1*; October 16 2012 at 01:15:08 AM.
This is the shitfit I bought, but Badversity. has yet to flex its armor fleet muscles.
[quote][Loki, Armor Webber]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane
Centum C-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalystp[quote]
I don't give a fuck about DPS, so there.
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