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    HON: So this new hero

    Is he any good?

    Looked like a boring shitty hero concept designed by a boring shitty person to me so i never payed it much attention but 5x 200 damage nukes unchanneled over 5 sec is pretty big imo ?

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    hes actually really fun to play, just tried him in practice mode

    very stompy unstoppable feel when playing him, sound and voice work is great, stun is good, shield is good, ult is good, aura is ABSURD, especially if you get frostfield plate nobody is going to be doing any reasonable dps or running away as long as you're nearby

    tank up, ghost marchers and HOTBL with a mana item like chalice or powersupply. you can get mock if your early farm is great, otherwise go for tankiness and work towards frostfield plate as it has ridiculous synergy with your aura (if you kill a hero you're putting out -55 attack speed total)

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    after 2 real games:

    he's fucking awful without levels and farm. send him mid and use your shield to boss the other guy back out of the lane. then gank it up

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    I played him once in a real game. Found him to be sortof meh. The devour is nice, but often there aren't any creeps around to eat, so in teamfights you are often stuck with no shield, and your aura unboosted. That leaves you with a decent aoe stun and an ok damage ult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polysynchronicity View Post
    he's fucking awful without levels and farm. send him mid and use your shield to boss the other guy back out of the lane. then gank it up
    Pretty much this. He needs levels. His jungling isn't particularly good either. Tanks well if he gets items early though.

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    He is not a jungler, but he can dip into jungle every 30 seconds to gobble a creep from the hard camp. The stun is piss easy to sidestep, it's no magmus burrowstrike.

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    pretty meaty as a followup or surprise stun, though.

    edit: plus I think the launched creeps will stun you first if he charges through a wave, making avoiding the stun harder if you do it that way

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    He's fun and Ctulhu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Unbeatable View Post
    He's fun and Ctulhu
    but designed by tim buckley who is by default a massive faggot

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHornton View Post
    but designed by tim buckley who is by default a massive faggot
    from what I read it's designed by s2 ignoring him as much as possible

    i mean he wanted it to have an ult that made all the heroes on his team look like him

    imagine how fucking useless that would be

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    Monarch looks absolutely insane though

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    monarch's mission: disabling your teammates at the worst times

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    Yeah I could see that cocoon being very annoying if used at the wrong time.
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    The flipping wave thing that removes debuffs/disables was what seemed craziest to me.. But ofc we won't know 'till it comes out!

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    Its decent no doubt, wouldn't call it crazy quite yet.

    I mean it completely counters slither, but against other heroes it doesnt do much at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Its decent no doubt, wouldn't call it crazy quite yet.

    I mean it completely counters slither, but against other heroes it doesnt do much at all.
    it REMOVES DISABLES

    silenced? nop
    stunned? nop
    immobilized? nop
    total get out of jail free card for your teammates as long as YOU don't get stunned

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    I should rephrase: against some other heroes it doesn't do much at all.

    There is the speed boost too I guess, which will always be pretty useful.
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    No sorry, op as fuck.

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    Hurf blurf about a new hero none of you have played. What a total surprise.

    Just incase you forgot, there are a number of other abilities that dispell debuffs. The difference being they're targeted and on shorter cooldowns.

    You honestly can't see further than "Monarch is always perfectly placed and has perfect aim and timing to dispell a group initiation"? What about, "Monarch gets hit too and when she goes out of whatever stun she's in, has nothing to disable because so it everyone else".

    Her ult is no worse than Vindi's. The difference being Vindi can do it from his own fountain. Monarch has to be in range and in the right position to hit enough people to make it worth it. Game breaking, it is not.
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    I mean it completely counters slither...
    You mean if Slither ultied without followup and everyone gets in cast range and assuming she didn't use it during the initial initiation?

    She counters Slither with her ulti alone. Slither counters Amun Ra simply by keeping Toxicity on him. In reality a game doesnt work like that.
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    Lolyphant is very cool , both looking and sound wise hero , also pretty good initiator / tank etc. Decent hero with nice options.

    Anyway Monarch i did not see but now Midas is available for silver coins Midas = OMNOMNOM

    New support hero looks ... useful FUCKING ALIEN BUTTERFLY aka S2 on acid.
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