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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Warlock is indeed excellent. Fatal bonds practically wins teamfights by itself.

    I've gotten radiance and scadii on him before (loong game).
    I just started playing and have no idea what I'm doing

    But I've been playing warlock and he seems cool. Fire golems are baus.

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    rubick is pretty much made out of big plays.

    ...and then you steal alchemist stun, start charging it, fail to catch him so you can throw it, and kill yourself T.T

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    Had a Rubick on my team the other day who managed to consistently steal Pudge hook, which is excellent....

    ...and then never land it, ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocBlood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Warlock is indeed excellent. Fatal bonds practically wins teamfights by itself.

    I've gotten radiance and scadii on him before (loong game).
    I just started playing and have no idea what I'm doing

    But I've been playing warlock and he seems cool. Fire golems are baus.
    dat refresher orb tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by modelfag View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DocBlood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cool09 View Post
    Warlock is indeed excellent. Fatal bonds practically wins teamfights by itself.

    I've gotten radiance and scadii on him before (loong game).
    I just started playing and have no idea what I'm doing

    But I've been playing warlock and he seems cool. Fire golems are baus.
    dat refresher orb tho
    With Aghanim's? Love having 4 fire golems.

    Had a really good as Prophet yesterday even though we ended up losing but it left me with a question - are there specific counter strategies to specific carry heroes apart from "Don't feed, you noob"? We lost because their morphling got pretty big and went on a rampage and I had no idea how to deal with him.

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    Basically 'don't feed, you noob'. Hard disables also work nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekk Pacus View Post
    Basically 'don't feed, you noob'. Hard disables also work nicely.
    except it isn't

    morphling is one of those carries that can do perfectly fine ricing alone and then come and blow ppl up without being fed at all, similar to antimage.

    you need to either actively seek and gank him (hard to do if it's a good morphling player, hero has way too many escapes), outcarry him with something like faceless void or antimage, or get together early with your team to push towers and force teamfights before he is strong, so he either has the choice of staying alone farming while his team gets behind fighting disadvantaged battles and losing towers, or joining in with fights before his hero has got some items

    morphling is very underrated by pubs, in my opinion he's far stronger than antimage
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    ok luna is awesome, confirmed

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    Got rubick last night.. enemy enigma blinked and hit black hole, I stole it, killed him, and landed black hole on the remaining 4 heroes. Much lols

    My buddy and I got matched with this group of 3 twice in a row, two boring wins. Over both games we lost 1 tower Zzzzz
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    there are a couple of things you can do against fed carries

    #1 is: don't let them get fed

    #2 is: stun them. very long stuns and stuns which go through BKB are all especially good.

    aside from that, there's a couple of items which can help -

    Supports should get Ghost Sceptre to provide a few seconds of immunity from autoattacks. HP and armor also helps. Map vision and smoke so you can gank the carry while he's farming also helps. If you get a lot of farm, BUY A SHEEPSTICK, IT'S AMAZING. If you get even more farm after that, stuff like Assault Cuirass and Shiva's can help a lot with the auras.

    Carries have a few item choices which are "anti-carry". Evasion, if your enemy doesn't have MKB - Heaven's Halberd (with its anticarry active) or Butterfly (which provides good DPS). Lifesteal, especially Satanic - activating a Satanic with any decent damage behind it means you'll pretty much be invincible as long as you keep hitting something. As a ranged carry against a melee one, Skadi - being permaslowed will really put a damper in their day.

    If you're playing against these items, MKB counters enemy carry's evasion, and Halberd can disarm them and prevent them from lifestealing. There's really no counter to Skadi, so melee carries without strong CC or blinks are kind of fucked against it (Jugg, I'm looking at you)

    One extra item of note is probably Orchid - it doesn't do much against some carries, but against carries that rely on casting or blinking for survival (Storm Spirit, Anti-Mage, Morphling), it's quite good and provides more DPS potential than, say, a Sheepstick, so even your carries can conceivably pick it up.

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    Also note that heroes can't evade while sheeped.

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    literally every game as luna today bar one has gone like this



    i think matchmaking has broken with this patch, i really do

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    Pretty sure it is. Since patch 75% of people i've played with have been pants on head retarded.

    Re; your pic. Your QOP is doing it wrong.

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    That QOP was me. Explain.
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    Sheep is a solid first item, but if you can't get agh fast or at the very least as you hit 16, then don't bother (an exception would be if you're ahead in levels). On QOP it's an item that pays off early to mid and helps you snowball, but the drop off as you transition from mid to late is really steep. That's why people will sometimes get it as the first item, even though you don't really have the mana regen until the next item (bottle required).

    You really need a BKB too. Sometimes Riki alone is reason enough to get it. Riki + SS it's now pretty high on the list of items i might want. Riki + SS + Naix + CM, i might even consider getting it as my first item. If Riki wasn't there at all i might still consider Linkins because there are 4 really strong single target spells on that team.

    Wand > Null talisman. SS will almost fill it during a fight on his own and that's a burst heal that will save your life.

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    130 cs in 50 mins as qop is definitely doing it wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by tHornton View Post
    130 cs in 50 mins as qop is definitely doing it wrong
    On a loosing team with Riki and Naix rampaging, i'd say there wasn't much he could do about that.

    You're on the most kills, and you got sheep first, so you're doing your job. Just don't get locked into a set way of building QOP. She's very versatile when it comes to item progression.
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    FHC top play from the other day

    starring Edna as Tidehunter and Poly as "imma micro the courier" Tinker

    guest appearance by tH as "retards keep walking into my e-blade" Morphling


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    ZEKK M8 DONT YOU GET IT UR A SHIT QOP LOL M8. YOU SHOULD QUIT QOP INSTEAD OF SMOKING M8 LOL.


    also force staff mekwisp 2 stronk

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    tbh, since edna was on his team it's a wonder he even managed to keep 130 cs

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