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    Can you find Ryzen 3600's still?
    Wouldn't the newer 5600 be in the same price range?

    Looking at shops here in Swedenstan.
    Nvidia 2060's costs more than 3060.
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    My plan is(was?) also to try and get a new PC during black week so this thread is a good thread! But the video cards are really fucking things up as far as I can tell.
    Its not that much difference in price/what you get now vs before black week, the gfx card increase is all the difference.
    The one I'm looking at: https://www.webhallen.com/se/product...Win-11#p-specs

    And yes, taking the easy way out going pre-built. There are a couple of similar builds, small differences (mostly CPU variants) around same price.
    All probably need to add a couple of things to them to make them slightly more complete (like a 2nd SSD).

    Edit: Something like this if I go for laptop: https://www.webhallen.com/se/product...RTX3070-Win-11
    I would need my new rig to be...portable in one way or the other without too much hassle.
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    Acer one looks good. But take a peak at Inet.se and Netonnet.
    They too got good offers.
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    Lots of good advice.

    As far as stores go: I'd only go for Amazon as a second choice. Cyberport and Caseking are better stocked or cheaper. The former does ship internationally, couldn't figure out their shipping though. Here is Caseking's shipping cost. Caseking are proper nerds, local to Berlin.

    Speaking of local. In case your next tour leads you to Germany, Cyberport has stores in several German cities and two in Vienna. Caseking's warehouse is in Berlin and has a small store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    My plan is(was?) also to try and get a new PC during black week so this thread is a good thread! But the video cards are really fucking things up as far as I can tell.
    Yes, GPU prices went down pretty nicely for a short bit then shot back up for some reason.
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    Why are you reccomending a Nvidia gpu?

    You get more for your money going with an AMD gpu atm. Current fps/$ chart gives the most bang for the buck with a RX 6600 at 0.37 fps/$

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gpu-pricing-index

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    PCPartPicker Part List

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($137.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($64.99 @ Corsair)
    Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $547.96
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-02 14:33 EST-0500

    Something like this should give you headroom for whatever you cant salvage from your old computer (storage/psu/case)
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    Buying 6600 atm is not the most sound decision. At least give it few weeks after next gen AMD premiere, and then grab whatever gives you best bang for your buck with feature you require. Late january seems like perfect time for gpu shopping given current premiere calendar. Considering you're shopping for the lower end of the mid market I would say even a bit longer. Simply said I would wait for 7600.

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    If AMD's previous release cycles is anything to go by then the 7600 won't be here until July at the earliest. If we're lucky we'll see a 7800 and 7700 in March.

    But prices should start getting pushed down if AMD's top end offerings hold up. eventually.

    Anyway if you're buying anything a 6600 looks far better than anything nvidia has to offer atm.

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    Yup, I'd wait for AMDs new releases, if nothing else it might push something like the 6700 down to your budget.
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    Cool. Any general advice on the current prices and performance for bestbuy/midrange processors and graphics cards is welcome! I'm still browsing for the next couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Cool. Any general advice on the current prices and performance for bestbuy/midrange processors and graphics cards is welcome! I'm still browsing for the next couple of weeks.
    Currently it's impossible to beat 6800(xt) in terms of price/performance. But it's 500$ nowadays, might be still a bit to pricey. All in all grabbing the highest previous gen model you can afford seems like the obvious answer. Look for good deals on 6600xt, sub 300$ for new one deals are starting to appear already.

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    6700xt dropped to ca $300 here. That's a good price even from pre-covid point of view.

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    Started looking at this again... I think I have realized I must go for laptop for the portability but I honestly think its more of a jungle out there now than last year!
    Money is worthless apparently, going by my same-ish budget from last year I can maybe get a 4050, while not bad, is decidedly below in performance from what I could get last year (unless im missing someting...?).
    And anything with 32GB of RAM can fuck right off.

    But lets start with easy q's:
    1. Which GPU should I sell myself/go for minimum today?
    2. Always been an Intel guy hence I really dont know how well AMD is working today? So if I should go for non-intel, what would be the recommendation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    Started looking at this again... I think I have realized I must go for laptop for the portability but I honestly think its more of a jungle out there now than last year!
    Money is worthless apparently, going by my same-ish budget from last year I can maybe get a 4050, while not bad, is decidedly below in performance from what I could get last year (unless im missing someting...?).
    And anything with 32GB of RAM can fuck right off.

    But lets start with easy q's:
    1. Which GPU should I sell myself/go for minimum today?
    2. Always been an Intel guy hence I really dont know how well AMD is working today? So if I should go for non-intel, what would be the recommendation?
    1. You don't need to look only at 4XXX series - 3060 Ti will be a respectable card for today's games, if not at ultra settings. It helps to have a 1080p screen rather than 4k when you're trying to get bang-for-buck.
    2. There's good options from both. With both companies, their 5-series (i5, Ryzen 5) Chips makes good budget gaming CPUs again - especially the X3D Ryzen varients. For Intel in particular, this is a welcome return of their i5, which before Ryzen, was being slowly and deliberately nerfed because they were dominant assholes.

    16GB of RAM will do you fine.



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    I have recently bought a Lenovo Legion 5 with a 5800h and a 3060, bought with pov spec RAM and ssd and upgraded myself (minutes of effort)

    Laptop was bought for £800 new and the RAM was whatever RAM is, and I got an aliexpress brand nvme (fanxiang, which is working amazing) All in was about £1050?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    Started looking at this again... I think I have realized I must go for laptop for the portability but I honestly think its more of a jungle out there now than last year!
    Money is worthless apparently, going by my same-ish budget from last year I can maybe get a 4050, while not bad, is decidedly below in performance from what I could get last year (unless im missing someting...?).
    And anything with 32GB of RAM can fuck right off.

    But lets start with easy q's:
    1. Which GPU should I sell myself/go for minimum today?
    2. Always been an Intel guy hence I really dont know how well AMD is working today? So if I should go for non-intel, what would be the recommendation?
    What is the laptop for? Are you going to be doing light/casual/srsbsns gaming on it?

    If you're in the light to casual end of things, a 7740U or 7740HS laptop is a no brainer IMO. 12 RDNA3 cores is enough for that level of gaming,and most of the laptops I've seen with that APU seem to have a 32GB option. Obviously if you want more srsbsns GPU power than an APU aint cutting it.
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    Thanks people! Just trying to get an understanding, I expect I'll try and snag something when black friday rolls around.

    As for what I intend to use it for, think Pillars of Eternity, BG3, EVE... not interested in BF or similar stuff anymore. I would like to have some nice resolution while doing it, not necessary superduper ultra but I like it pretty.
    I want some longevity to it which I understand forces me upward in config and price.

    Probably will have it connected to either 24" or 27" monitors so not much playing using built in screen.

    Quick scan on swedish sites it seems almost everything is switched over to 4000 series for GPU, for CPU there is plenty of choices between AMD and Intel.
    There are just a couple of 3060 and 3070 configs out there that I can find right now, and most looks more expensive than 4060/4070 configs (with 2 exceptions).

    Around €1400 gets me
    Acer Nitro 5 / 15.6" / FHD / IPS / 144MHz / Ryzen 7 5800H / 16GB / 1TB / Geforce RTX 3060 / Win 11
    Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3 / 16" / 1920 x 1200 / 165 Hz / Core i5 / I5-12500H / 16 GB / 512 GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 / Windows 11 Home

    3070 configs are ~€2400 (sure, bigger cpu and options with 32GB ram)

    4060 / 4070 configs lands me at ~€1600-2800 (higher price end is 32gb, i9 and 2tb ssd etc of course).
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    Best decision i made when building a "new" PC from scratch in january '23 was getting a modern case instead of a rustbucket with win XP sticker on it.
    After watching lots of gamer nexus case reviews i ended up with Fractal Torrent Compact solid in black and it kicks ass on all fronts but HDD slots (only 1). Also got a platinum modular PSU so this exoskeleton will last me another two decades.

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    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/58767338

    For about 1000$ (case+psu were 350), i'm pretty happy.
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    Agreed. I was reluctant to admit it was needed, but I also went with a Fractal (The Silent - glass panels can GTFO) and despite being about 2/3 the size of the old clunker, it's objectively better with noise level, layout, airflow, features and looks.
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