Elden Ring - RPG based on Souls or Souls with RPG elements?

**Lowa [NSN]** · February 15 2022, 09:36:10 AM

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So, apparently Elden Ring is getting hyped like a cocaine fueled rocket. It certainly looks pretty sweet and the early access demos has peaked my interest.
But...is it really an RPG or is it just a Souls game in an open RPG-like world? It sounds and looks like the latter. I understand its not story heavy/driven like Witcher etc.

Not saying its a bad thing but would I enjoy it never had any real interest in earlier Souls and Souls-clones?

**rufuske** · February 15 2022, 09:55:04 AM

Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN]

[Could not find an existing thread. If there is one let me know]

So, apparently Elden Ring is getting hyped like a cocaine fueled rocket. It certainly looks pretty sweet and the early access demos has peaked my interest.
But...is it really an RPG or is it just a Souls game in an open RPG-like world? It sounds and looks like the latter. I understand its not story heavy/driven like Witcher etc.

Not saying its a bad thing but would I enjoy it never had any real interest in earlier Souls and Souls-clones?

Souls games are very story heavy and this one will be even more. Difference compared to Witcher it's not classic storytelling with characters etc, but driven entirely by environments and item descriptions. You need to really dig and piece it yourself to experience story's full extent. It's akin to being archaeologist and not a book reader or movie watcher.. A lot of people don't like this approach and are incapable of following story presented this way (hence the Souls games have no story), while some love it. Best thing is to try it yourself.

**Dee Jiensai** · February 15 2022, 11:38:49 AM

What is your definition of an RPG?

Because all souls-likes fill my definition of one.

**Itiken** · February 15 2022, 11:46:30 AM

It's open world dark souls. AS far as i can tell from pre-reviews, the storytelling is far less opaque than previous darksouls, eg you meet a person, they tell you to go over to a place, and save something from something else. There is an overriding plot that is revealed, you go and do the things, and then win the other thing. I've heard talk about a skilltree, though it could just be stat allocations similar to existing souls games, or it could be something more. not looked to deeply into it beyond this as I'm a big souls fan, and don't want to spoil myself too much.

Difficulty wise, it's Souls Difficulty, no sliders, no fucks given. Not sure whether open world DS is exactly RPG. there won't be a party of companions (summons aside) but you will be able to chose specialties. Rogue-like dex backstab builds, mage/2h hybrids. Tanky sword and board. the options will be there. It really depends if that's enough for you to be a RPG. I doubt there will be complex dialog trees, but who knows. with GRRM writing the plot, anything is possible.

Also use a controller.

**Duckslayer** · February 15 2022, 01:06:23 PM

GET HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE

**Duckslayer** · February 15 2022, 01:35:11 PM

Also, every game is a role playing game you nerds

**Lowa [NSN]** · February 15 2022, 05:41:37 PM

Thanks all! I have pretty much zero exposure to the "Souls-genre", which probably explains that my most common knowledge is that is fuckin hard mode. All the time.
And since that hasnt been my jam in many years I've left it alone. But looking at the preview reviews and your comments maybe this is the time I jump in.

(Just need to find time to finish up what I got loaded on the PS4 and then get a PS5 for this, so maybe in 2024. >.<)

**Lilalaunebör** · February 15 2022, 07:29:02 PM

Originally Posted by Duckslayer

Also, every game is a role playing game you nerds

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

Anyways, as long as it's not a rougelike deckbuilder i'm not interested. Guess age has caught up to me.

**Armyofme** · February 16 2022, 03:56:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN]

Thanks all! I have pretty much zero exposure to the "Souls-genre", which probably explains that my most common knowledge is that is fuckin hard mode. All the time.
And since that hasnt been my jam in many years I've left it alone. But looking at the preview reviews and your comments maybe this is the time I jump in.

(Just need to find time to finish up what I got loaded on the PS4 and then get a PS5 for this, so maybe in 2024. >.<)

If its as hard as Sekiro then im gonna say fuck it.
Cba to spend that much time trying to get through the content.

**Lallante** · February 18 2022, 10:13:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN]

Thanks all! I have pretty much zero exposure to the "Souls-genre", which probably explains that my most common knowledge is that is fuckin hard mode. All the time.
And since that hasnt been my jam in many years I've left it alone. But looking at the preview reviews and your comments maybe this is the time I jump in.

(Just need to find time to finish up what I got loaded on the PS4 and then get a PS5 for this, so maybe in 2024. >.<)

If you dont like replaying the same content 100x trying to get through it without dying it isn't for you

**Lief Siddhe** · February 18 2022, 05:09:50 PM

Wut? I replayed Dark Souls about 3 times to try different classes/weapons and enjoyed it a lot. Yes, getting stuck on an enemy can be frustrating but we're not talking about playing the same thing a hundred times lol and the payoff is therefore much more enjoyable. It's a perfect example of a challenging game. Elden Ring is gonna be a very similar experience but with more eye candy. You don't have to turn into a maniac to enjoy it.

Although I'll admit if you like power fantasy roller coaster games, this is a very different beast and will require a mindset change.

You just need to git gud :P

**Jack Coutu** · February 19 2022, 04:50:33 AM

Sekiro was great fun, I could never really get into DS since the world was cool but not really something I cared to look at too long. Elden ring looks like a really awesome evolution of all their work so far, really pumped to try it out. Also Lief is right, the content isn't really repetitive and you aren't gonna die at the same spot 100x unless you are just dumb. They make massive levels and just take so much time to flesh them out, how you could say it was content you need to replay over and over and sound bitter about how fun even that can be is beyond me.

**Duckslayer** · February 20 2022, 07:20:56 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Coutu

Sekiro was great fun, I could never really get into DS since the world was cool but not really something I cared to look at too long. Elden ring looks like a really awesome evolution of all their work so far, really pumped to try it out. Also Lief is right, the content isn't really repetitive and you aren't gonna die at the same spot 100x unless you are just dumb. They make massive levels and just take so much time to flesh them out, how you could say it was content you need to replay over and over and sound bitter about how fun even that can be is beyond me.

**cullnean** · February 20 2022, 06:31:55 PM

Where the fuck did all the fhc gamers go?

**Varcaus** · February 20 2022, 08:13:14 PM

Originally Posted by cullnean

Where the fuck did all the fhc gamers go?

Discord

**Itiken** · February 21 2022, 07:37:05 AM

Originally Posted by Armyofme

Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN]

Thanks all! I have pretty much zero exposure to the "Souls-genre", which probably explains that my most common knowledge is that is fuckin hard mode. All the time.
And since that hasnt been my jam in many years I've left it alone. But looking at the preview reviews and your comments maybe this is the time I jump in.

(Just need to find time to finish up what I got loaded on the PS4 and then get a PS5 for this, so maybe in 2024. >.<)

If its as hard as Sekiro then im gonna say fuck it.

Sekiro was in a really weird place for the genre.
Having to git gud at both stealth assassination then mad sworstrike action hurt my brain and i gave up on it in the end.

At least with SoulsBourne games there are usually tanky options to help you learn the game, maybe not as flashy as the naked Ultra-2H 2shot build, but good all the same.