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    I've been playing private guild hc league for a few leagues now. Don't miss trading a bit.

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    Im tiring of my current build, but enjoying HoA / Poison in principle. Been thinking about doing a funky build with my current SSF gear.


    HoA Winter Orb CWC GMP Ice Spear. Ive had very good experience with CWC Ice Spear last league, and i also got Volkuurs Guidance with Cold to Poison yesterday. I need a Thuls Blessing for a Perfect Form chest, which would fit pretty well i think. Alternatively i also have The Coming Calamity (unlinked) and an Essence Wyrm, but i think that would dumpster my defences too much unless i go CI, which ive never done before.

    The question is, do i: scale minion damage, take the new minion to self damage node, and use the minion damage wand i got? Or do i scale pure poison?

    Which ascendancy would i choose? Necro? Assassin? Pathfinder?

    I think the build idea can work, but im absolutely stumped as to how to make a tree for it.

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    We have looked into the issue further and we can now hold a guild vote to decide a change of leadership. This would require members of your guild voting for who they would like as leader. Please talk to the members of your guild, and ask them to contact us with their vote including which guild they're contacting us about.

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    emailed them!
    char#3 is super-FOTm cyclone.... This season's netcode simply cannot handle Oro's Flickerstrike
    Please don't teach me what to do with my pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itiken View Post
    emailed them!
    char#3 is super-FOTm cyclone.... This season's netcode simply cannot handle Oro's Flickerstrike
    Thanks!

    I tried again one or two days ago.
    The server still feels terrible, rubberbanding and it doesn't accurately register my inputs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilalaunebör View Post
    Im tiring of my current build, but enjoying HoA / Poison in principle. Been thinking about doing a funky build with my current SSF gear.


    HoA Winter Orb CWC GMP Ice Spear. Ive had very good experience with CWC Ice Spear last league, and i also got Volkuurs Guidance with Cold to Poison yesterday. I need a Thuls Blessing for a Perfect Form chest, which would fit pretty well i think. Alternatively i also have The Coming Calamity (unlinked) and an Essence Wyrm, but i think that would dumpster my defences too much unless i go CI, which ive never done before.

    The question is, do i: scale minion damage, take the new minion to self damage node, and use the minion damage wand i got? Or do i scale pure poison?

    Which ascendancy would i choose? Necro? Assassin? Pathfinder?

    I think the build idea can work, but im absolutely stumped as to how to make a tree for it.
    Occultist unless you are struggling for crit, or want flask uptime/prolif??

    As for servers, I've not had many issues except recently Delving has had some tedious stalling that doesn't show in the latency charts, but up to several seconds of screen stall (but still animating iirc) followed by inputs & enemies movements catching up.
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    Blech. Did the 4-way fight, got every boss down once barely, got fuckall loot. Did the 3-way after that, went better although i still only got one jewel and a headpiece i hadnt seen yet.

    And all that after pimping my bow to 380 pds + 30% quality. I think Scourge Arrow is just scuffed for me, and i cant rely on getting a 6-link to make it better and have no idea where to respec to fix it.


    Its probably reroll time. Almost the exact same build path, just with Assassin poison/crit nodes and some juggling to scale poison more would be easily doing 30-40% more (or higher, its tough to estimate how hard the inc poison duration would carry with the buttload of hits that SA does).

    Im gonna do some breachstones and other shit ive got lying around, then ill try the cold to poison Trickster. If that doesnt work out either, then its probably time for a break.
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    18.15% of players have completed 12 challenges and earned the Monolith Helmet.
    2.65% of players have completed 24 challenges and earned the Monolith Aura.
    0.31% of players have completed 36 challenges and earned the Monolith Wings.
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    I saw Mathil made a Shock Nova build, I love Nova skills.
    Do want to play this, but a 20ex staff..yikes! Got 12ish, with some flipping I could make that money in a day.

    Do or do not?

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    Wait a week, he'll be 2 builds along, market demand would have dropped and supply would have increased?
    Also didn't he switch staves, so double-check what he said in latest build vid, and/or PoB the alternatives and maybe find a cheaper comparable setup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
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    0.31% of players have completed 36 challenges and earned the Monolith Wings.

    i have no life

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
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    Hi there,

    We have looked into the issue further and we can now hold a guild vote to decide a change of leadership. This would require members of your guild voting for who they would like as leader. Please talk to the members of your guild, and ask them to contact us with their vote including which guild they're contacting us about.

    If you have any further questions please let us know.

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    Not a very smooth system they got.

    Everyone gotta mail: support@grindinggear.com

    And just vote for Varrakk as guild leader for, Guild: Criterion. <FHC>

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    done!

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    same

    e: also, someone tell me if im bricking another char:

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    The thinking is, HoA 4link in a +2 head, WOrb - CWC - Ice Spear - GMP - Slower Proj - Poison in my only 6link chest, Hatred aura in Essence Wyrm. The rest of the gems are 4link Spectres, Curse on Hit - Storm Brand (with more cold to poison procs for virulence) - Temp Chains (defense, more poison damage), Poachers Mark (frenzies and more hit chance for minions), and then CWDT some guard skill, Dessecrate, some Offering, some movement skill.

    Gear is Essence Wyrm, rare 6link chest, Volkuurs Guidance with cold to poison, maybe some shaper/elder gloves for the spectres. Temple wand with spell crit and minion damage + whatever i can craft on it. Rest just some rare shit.
    Last edited by Lilalaunebör; July 3 2019 at 05:51:38 PM.

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    FHC/vB fucked with the very long single base64 string, inserting 33 wordbreaks. Use the PoB Pastebin functionality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortvvs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile...the_domain_of/
    0.31% of players have completed 36 challenges and earned the Monolith Wings.

    i have no life
    TMA which you found hardest/depended upon trading? This is another breakdown you might just want to state your differences from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortvvs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile...the_domain_of/
    0.31% of players have completed 36 challenges and earned the Monolith Wings.

    i have no life
    TMA which you found hardest/depended upon trading? This is another breakdown you might just want to state your differences from.
    Not going to read all that. The challenges are super easy this time and mostly depend on grind, the only one I'm going to buy is strongboxes if I don't get lucky while finishing the endgame grinds. The hardest was actually 150 legion monsters because I lacked the AOE/speed before rerolling as 2h slayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilalaunebör View Post
    same

    e: also, someone tell me if im bricking another char:

    The thinking is, HoA 4link in a +2 head, WOrb - CWC - Ice Spear - GMP - Slower Proj - Poison in my only 6link chest, Hatred aura in Essence Wyrm. The rest of the gems are 4link Spectres, Curse on Hit - Storm Brand (with more cold to poison procs for virulence) - Temp Chains (defense, more poison damage), Poachers Mark (frenzies and more hit chance for minions), and then CWDT some guard skill, Dessecrate, some Offering, some movement skill.

    Gear is Essence Wyrm, rare 6link chest, Volkuurs Guidance with cold to poison, maybe some shaper/elder gloves for the spectres. Temple wand with spell crit and minion damage + whatever i can craft on it. Rest just some rare shit.
    I poked about with it. https://pastebin.com/EZ87uWqU

    Got some real concerns:
    There's not any poison dps going on, which isn't a problem just for abusing poison stacks to sustain Agony Crawler & Vile Toxins' More dps afaik, but means don't waste points & curses trying to scale DoT.
    Sockets, I couldn't see enough places to have any spectres/zombies/etc, or a guard skill, but did go for Wither totems (do this or get Withering Touch on something).
    Swapped ascendancy notables, pathed tree to get Spiritual Command and Sacrifice, seems obvious for a Necro focused on few/1 powerful minion(s) + self-casting.
    I'm seeing ~half a mil Shaper dps, split between crawler and spears if all GMP hit, and you keep up poisons & wither.
    You really need to throw on some gear (+2minion helm? and use the right element of gloves) to be able to min-max pathing & gems.
    Mana sustain?
    Defences?
    Reflect?

    Basically, you being cold spell crit, the minion being chaos/physical (non-crit?), I just keep thinking why not channel/cast some physical spell/skill, (Etherial Knives/Blade Vortex/Flurry?) and simplify the synergies.
    I'm all for larking about with ele-to-chaos, chaos poison, Vile Toxins scaling, but I did it with legacy Consuming Dark and also ensured I was reflect-proof with almost 8k life. Your idea isn't clear to me, need a proper full PoB or other calc demo to see how it all comes together with spectres, etc.

    P.S. wasn't seeing how Power Charges were going to help much either, and flat added damage to minions jewels didn't seem to be doing much either.

    P.P.S. Projectile Weakness really seems like the way to go, that'll give pierce so your minion can instead link a stronger green support (i.e. Vile Toxins for another 50k dps, or Vic Proj).
    Also, you could use Bane to apply curses, rather than 2 sockets via hitting spell + curse on hit. WO should be able to keep up poison & virulence stacks, no?

    P.P.P.S. You could probably easily add in some abuse of Energy Leech gem, either for dps + defence, or with EB to solve mana sustain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortvvs View Post
    The hardest was actually 150 legion monsters because I lacked the AOE/speed before rerolling as 2h slayer.
    I just cheesed this in Quarry with Vaal Ice Nova in a Shaper/Elder dagger pseudo 5-link and some Spell + AoE scaling, and Herald of Ice... Yes, before this I wasn't getting past 50 cleared while <lvl90 and knocking out the first 12 challenges while being true melee range.
    Still need to find a Bestiary legion rare/chest, dunno if that requires maps or if a little more cheese is all it'll take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilalaunebör View Post
    same

    e: also, someone tell me if im bricking another char:

    The thinking is, HoA 4link in a +2 head, WOrb - CWC - Ice Spear - GMP - Slower Proj - Poison in my only 6link chest, Hatred aura in Essence Wyrm. The rest of the gems are 4link Spectres, Curse on Hit - Storm Brand (with more cold to poison procs for virulence) - Temp Chains (defense, more poison damage), Poachers Mark (frenzies and more hit chance for minions), and then CWDT some guard skill, Dessecrate, some Offering, some movement skill.

    Gear is Essence Wyrm, rare 6link chest, Volkuurs Guidance with cold to poison, maybe some shaper/elder gloves for the spectres. Temple wand with spell crit and minion damage + whatever i can craft on it. Rest just some rare shit.
    I poked about with it. https://pastebin.com/EZ87uWqU

    Got some real concerns:
    There's not any poison dps going on, which isn't a problem just for abusing poison stacks to sustain Agony Crawler & Vile Toxins' More dps afaik, but means don't waste points & curses trying to scale DoT.
    Sockets, I couldn't see enough places to have any spectres/zombies/etc, or a guard skill, but did go for Wither totems (do this or get Withering Touch on something).
    Swapped ascendancy notables, pathed tree to get Spiritual Command and Sacrifice, seems obvious for a Necro focused on few/1 powerful minion(s) + self-casting.
    I'm seeing ~half a mil Shaper dps, split between crawler and spears if all GMP hit, and you keep up poisons & wither.
    You really need to throw on some gear (+2minion helm? and use the right element of gloves) to be able to min-max pathing & gems.
    Mana sustain?
    Defences?
    Reflect?

    Basically, you being cold spell crit, the minion being chaos/physical (non-crit?), I just keep thinking why not channel/cast some physical spell/skill, (Etherial Knives/Blade Vortex/Flurry?) and simplify the synergies.
    I'm all for larking about with ele-to-chaos, chaos poison, Vile Toxins scaling, but I did it with legacy Consuming Dark and also ensured I was reflect-proof with almost 8k life. Your idea isn't clear to me, need a proper full PoB or other calc demo to see how it all comes together with spectres, etc.

    P.S. wasn't seeing how Power Charges were going to help much either, and flat added damage to minions jewels didn't seem to be doing much either.

    P.P.S. Projectile Weakness really seems like the way to go, that'll give pierce so your minion can instead link a stronger green support (i.e. Vile Toxins for another 50k dps, or Vic Proj).
    Also, you could use Bane to apply curses, rather than 2 sockets via hitting spell + curse on hit. WO should be able to keep up poison & virulence stacks, no?

    P.P.P.S. You could probably easily add in some abuse of Energy Leech gem, either for dps + defence, or with EB to solve mana sustain.
    Some nice comments, ty

    Poison dps doesnt show because i didnt figure out / bother to get the correct gloves on. It should skyrocket once that is taken into account.
    Sockets: no space for zombies unless they share a 4link with specters. CWDT guard, convocation, dessecrate, offering, flame dash/frost blink is exactly the 6 slots on weapon/shield.
    You are right that withered is probably huge, if i can get a way to apply it. Atm that would mean Specters - Zombies - Minion Damage - Withering Touch.
    Ascendancy i am very unsure about. If i use zombies the flat phys reduction and aoe slam is nice. Commander of Darkness doesnt seem as interesting, but obviously works on specters/zombies/agony crawler at the same time.
    Mana sustain is Poachers Mark, i dont see an issue there.
    Ele reflect fucks me under any circumstance. Maybe if the Storm Brand dps is low enough i can just cruise with minions in ele refelct maps, idk.
    Defences are dont get hit and build a hybrid buffer from gear. Ill probably land around 7k ehp. Not enough for Minotaur, should be fine for everything else.

    e: Power charges dont help at all, since Ice Spear has like 70% crit with flask up as is. It would be funny to have them on the minions, but would cost too much.

    e2: You are probably correct that Divine Ire CWC something would make more sense, since it lets me use shaper/elder gloves. But the whole reason i wanted to try it was because i got the gloves, and Ice Spears one big advantage is that it is one of the few skills that shotguns.

    e3: jewels are one hypnotic eye for flat cold damage so that Storm Brand can poison, and the rest %minion damage so that it applies back to me and the agony crawler i think.
    Last edited by Lilalaunebör; July 3 2019 at 09:12:32 PM.

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