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    Movember 2011 RazoR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    a whole new ammo type? that the rest of NATO isnt using?

    Maybe that doesnt even matter anymore? :shrug:
    6.851mm is a new design (2019), it could be the future standard, US Army asked for M240 6.851mm conversion kit. (wiki said)
    Move form 5.56 was long in the making. Even Arma 3 presented 6.8 as new NATO standard. It was an arms race between what was perceived as protection by modern armor plates (5.56 not even penetrating) and calibers. Only lately we have learned armor plates supposed to stop 5.56 in a major conflict are made out of cardboard and/or stolen iPads/Macbooks.
    Arma 3 has 6.5 grendel as an adopted NATO caliber, not 6.8
    https://armedassault.fandom.com/wiki/ArmA_3_Weapons

    Inrange has tested M855A1 against a bare russian level IV (NIJ) plate that costs 150 bux basically point blank and it didn't do shit. The video has been taken down because they made a teeny mistake but i am sure it still is afloat somewhere.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/InRangeTV/c...sian_level_iv/


    You might want to take a look at this but it's russian so probably completely hoax.
    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...x49mm-unified/
    Last edited by RazoR; July 25 2022 at 11:05:51 PM.

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    Did Inrange get the actual high pressure ammo or just the commercially available ammo? They are distinguished by the casings, high pressure has a steel/brass case, commercial is brass only. I haven’t seen that video but seen some other (TFB?) which had both types of ammo and mentioned that the brass training ammo performs a lot worse but has negligible recoil.
    nevar forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Did Inrange get the actual high pressure ammo or just the commercially available ammo? They are distinguished by the casings, high pressure has a steel/brass case, commercial is brass only. I haven’t seen that video but seen some other (TFB?) which had both types of ammo and mentioned that the brass training ammo performs a lot worse but has negligible recoil.
    Are you talking about the testing they did? Inrange only tested 5.56 against Russian armour. This was years ago.

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    Ah I hadn’t watched their video on the new US rifle and thought they shot Russian armor with it. I guess I need to memorize US ammo designations (I won’t).
    nevar forget

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