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    Speaking of accuracy:
    >Using SS-109 in TYOOL 2017
    >implying it's from 2017
    >implying ammo make matters in straight comparisons
    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
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    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit
    Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit
    Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.
    4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.

    The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.

    Next up: twist rates are wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
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    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit
    Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.
    4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.

    The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.

    Next up: twist rates are wrong!
    It was optimized for the M16, yes. And I would therefore expect the M16 to shoot better groups and at longer ranges than the M4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit
    Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.
    4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.

    The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.

    Next up: twist rates are wrong!
    It was optimized for the M16, yes. And I would therefore expect the M16 to shoot better groups and at longer ranges than the M4.
    Isn't M4 technically a carbine? I also want to see AK-101 comparison against HK416.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit
    Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm.
    I am pretty sure Razor has AK-74 dakimakura.

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    Its lovely to see the lack of basic ballistic understanding with the Razor displayed so openly.

    Its absord to see these discussion on accuracy between AK and AR rifles. The AR platform constructively can be bolt-action accurate, as shown with guns produced to match grade specs. The AK is an outdated shit platform that is neither as accurate nor practical as an AR. And when you take cutting edge HK piston guns, its not even as reliable.

    And since we have too much russian armchair quarterbacking in here, I actually have an AK and an AR here. And not one of the lol russiacivillian AK with the "step" in the chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metacannibal View Post
    Its lovely to see the lack of basic ballistic understanding with the Razor displayed so openly.
    Razor played paintball once. He knows everything about ballistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Given that there are ammos that are optimized for the 14.5 inch barrels of the M4 series (and SS-109 isn't one of them), yes I would say that ammo matters.
    Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkit
    Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.
    4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.

    The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.

    Next up: twist rates are wrong!
    It was optimized for the M16, yes. And I would therefore expect the M16 to shoot better groups and at longer ranges than the M4.
    Well fuck, longer barrels provide better ballistics (even if it would shoot m4 ammo), more news at 11.


    I wonder what don vomited in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Well fuck, longer barrels provide better ballistics (even if it would shoot m4 ammo), more news at 11.


    I wonder what don vomited in here.

    You are such a moron its wonderful. Longer barrels are technically speaking, providing that propellant burn is over and that the bullet was stabilized, BAD for precision (which is what you implicitly use for accuracy for a lack of better grasp of technical terms on your part).
    Hence "precision" focused barrels are actually very thick, to minimize barrel harmonics. And, in relation to thickness, short. Just because "SNIPAH RIFLES" have rather long barrels does not make that more precise as average precision with great accuracy is what they require. The long barrels are used for different reasons, but the fuck would you know about shit since you know guns from world.guns.ru .



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    That chart also shows proper application of marksmanship principles

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    Likely carries 3 pistols in addition to the G36 ,reloads are for tourists.



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    meanwhile in russia


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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    He'd rather miss his target than risk touching another man's car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post


    Likely carries 3 pistols in addition to the G36 ,reloads are for tourists.
    There can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post


    Likely carries 3 pistols in addition to the G36 ,reloads are for tourists.
    There can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metacannibal View Post
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    Likely carries 3 pistols in addition to the G36 ,reloads are for tourists.
    There can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.
    id have imagined that if it was loaded with less than leathals it would be colourised

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    Quote Originally Posted by metacannibal View Post
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    Likely carries 3 pistols in addition to the G36 ,reloads are for tourists.
    There can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.
    protip: one holster is for teaser

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
    id have imagined that if it was loaded with less than leathals it would be colourised
    Not talking less than lethal ammo, but something along the lines of frangible. Good enough to shoot someone without shooting the person right behind it, but utterly useless against anything "hard".

    Also we are talking two pistols (and no tasers, what a protip, lol), one is a compact, looks like a hk or sig, and the other one is a full sized pistol with a laser, as evident from the holster.

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