Gun Thread (AK appreciation)

[Varcaus]

Isnt there an Airsoft forum somewhere for people from police states that are not allowed to own guns, LIKE RUSSIANS.

As if its any easier here if you aren't a hunter (literally no interest in that) and don't want to compete in some really stupid disciplines.

??? Get WSK, register in a club, shoot for a year, buy pistols and rifles. In Russia, not so much. 5 years before "rifle", whatever that means.

Uhm, other way around:

Compete for a year in a club, apply for a WBK, buy pistols and rifles.

I don't really care about competing because fuck that.

You don't have to win do you?

[Joe Appleby]

Isnt there an Airsoft forum somewhere for people from police states that are not allowed to own guns, LIKE RUSSIANS.

As if its any easier here if you aren't a hunter (literally no interest in that) and don't want to compete in some really stupid disciplines.

??? Get WSK, register in a club, shoot for a year, buy pistols and rifles. In Russia, not so much. 5 years before "rifle", whatever that means.

Uhm, other way around:

Compete for a year in a club, apply for a WBK, buy pistols and rifles.

I don't really care about competing because fuck that.

You don't have to win do you?

No, but I also don't want to compete because you have to do that in certain disciplines and IIRC the weapons you buy have to fit to your disciplines. So, no, :effort:. Also you need to join a club and that costs more money than it ought to. Especially as none here in Berlin have ranges fit for proper rifles. It's all 25 and 50 meters.

[Varcaus]

Isnt there an Airsoft forum somewhere for people from police states that are not allowed to own guns, LIKE RUSSIANS.

As if its any easier here if you aren't a hunter (literally no interest in that) and don't want to compete in some really stupid disciplines.

??? Get WSK, register in a club, shoot for a year, buy pistols and rifles. In Russia, not so much. 5 years before "rifle", whatever that means.

Uhm, other way around:

Compete for a year in a club, apply for a WBK, buy pistols and rifles.

I don't really care about competing because fuck that.

You don't have to win do you?

No, but I also don't want to compete because you have to do that in certain disciplines and IIRC the weapons you buy have to fit to your disciplines. So, no, :effort:. Also you need to join a club and that costs more money than it ought to. Especially as none here in Berlin have ranges fit for proper rifles. It's all 25 and 50 meters.

Welp

[metacannibal]

Isnt there an Airsoft forum somewhere for people from police states that are not allowed to own guns, LIKE RUSSIANS.

As if its any easier here if you aren't a hunter (literally no interest in that) and don't want to compete in some really stupid disciplines.

??? Get WSK, register in a club, shoot for a year, buy pistols and rifles. In Russia, not so much. 5 years before "rifle", whatever that means.

Uhm, other way around:

Compete for a year in a club, apply for a WBK, buy pistols and rifles.

I don't really care about competing because fuck that.

I dont know, but you are wrong. I will be polite and help you:

- 1. http://www.d-s-u.de/ -> Einzelmitgliedschaft, costs 25e per year
- 2. apply for police register thingy that says you are not a felon
- 3. go find a range in your city that accepts guest shooters or commercial range, expect a cost of about 10-15 hour per lane to shoot, place must have rental guns that may add another 10 bux, plus 15 bux for 50 rounds of 9mm. Do this once a month and get a stamp every time in your little shooting booklet, do this once a month OR 18 times a year -> 15*12+10*12+15*12= 480e for a year plus the 25 bux for the club, so roundabout 600e the first year since you should buy earmuffs. So averages to about 50bux per month on a "lone hero strategy" with no clubs no nothing
- 4. get your WSK WAFFENSACHKUNDE ASAP, can be 20 bux in a club, can be 150 bux commercially
- 5. as soon as you have your 12 stamps and 1 year membership in DSU, apply for WBK and two "VOREINTRÄGE", usually the first ones ought to be .223 remingon selbstladebüche and halbautomatische pistole 9mm Luger -> that will literally allow you to walk into triebel and buy an ar15 and whatever 9mm pistol that floats your boat. You will need to refer to a disziplin, so pick whatever allows these weapons from DSU SPORTHANDBUCH (google is your friend).

OH, AND I FORGOT, you will need a weapons locker, so another 200eur.

Generally, triebel.de is a good adress in berlin -> https://www.google.de/maps/place/Tri...CfsQ_BIIgAEwCg

They ought to be able to tell you about a club and/or range.

[Joe Appleby]

Isnt there an Airsoft forum somewhere for people from police states that are not allowed to own guns, LIKE RUSSIANS.

As if its any easier here if you aren't a hunter (literally no interest in that) and don't want to compete in some really stupid disciplines.

??? Get WSK, register in a club, shoot for a year, buy pistols and rifles. In Russia, not so much. 5 years before "rifle", whatever that means.

Uhm, other way around:

Compete for a year in a club, apply for a WBK, buy pistols and rifles.

I don't really care about competing because fuck that.

I dont know, but you are wrong. I will be polite and help you:

- 1. http://www.d-s-u.de/ -> Einzelmitgliedschaft, costs 25e per year
- 2. apply for police register thingy that says you are not a felon
- 3. go find a range in your city that accepts guest shooters or commercial range, expect a cost of about 10-15 hour per lane to shoot, place must have rental guns that may add another 10 bux, plus 15 bux for 50 rounds of 9mm. Do this once a month and get a stamp every time in your little shooting booklet, do this once a month OR 18 times a year -> 15*12+10*12+15*12= 480e for a year plus the 25 bux for the club, so roundabout 600e the first year since you should buy earmuffs. So averages to about 50bux per month on a "lone hero strategy" with no clubs no nothing
- 4. get your WSK WAFFENSACHKUNDE ASAP, can be 20 bux in a club, can be 150 bux commercially
- 5. as soon as you have your 12 stamps and 1 year membership in DSU, apply for WBK and two "VOREINTRÄGE", usually the first ones ought to be .223 remingon selbstladebüche and halbautomatische pistole 9mm Luger -> that will literally allow you to walk into triebel and buy an ar15 and whatever 9mm pistol that floats your boat. You will need to refer to a disziplin, so pick whatever allows these weapons from DSU SPORTHANDBUCH (google is your friend).

OH, AND I FORGOT, you will need a weapons locker, so another 200eur.

Generally, triebel.de is a good adress in berlin -> https://www.google.de/maps/place/Tri...CfsQ_BIIgAEwCg

They ought to be able to tell you about a club and/or range.

I didn't know the DSU tbh. I looked at the clubs in Spandau and they wanted a lot more money and/or where NRA Germany affiliated, which you may understand isn't my cup of tea.

Guess I can do that after the summer.

Thanks a lot!

[FatFreddy]

Joe plz

[evil edna]

if you get a weapon Joe you better not take it into the Rhineland

[Joe Appleby]

Joe plz

Yes I should move to Austria and just walk into a store and walk out with a shotgun.

Tapapapatalk

[Tellenta]

Joe plz

Yes I should move to Austria and just walk into a store and walk out with a shotgun.

Tapapapatalk

I'd go with a pistol but whatever.

[FatFreddy]

Joe plz

Yes I should move to Austria and just walk into a store and walk out with a shotgun.

Tapapapatalk

Except you couldn't.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450800.html

tl;dr: - justification for a need of ownership (negligible hurdle)
- psychological exam*
- some kind of training (lol)

*[unless you have a hunters' license; which is a 2 1/2 months/80hrs course @1500€]

Not exactly "walking in and walking out again"

Also, what the fuck do you need a gun for if you explicitly state you're not interested in competition? Plz.

[Joe Appleby]

Joe plz

Yes I should move to Austria and just walk into a store and walk out with a shotgun.

Tapapapatalk

Except you couldn't.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450800.html

tl;dr: - justification for a need of ownership (negligible hurdle)
- psychological exam*
- some kind of training (lol)

*[unless you have a hunters' license; which is a 2 1/2 months/80hrs course @1500€]

Not exactly "walking in and walking out again"

Also, what the fuck do you need a gun for if you explicitly state you're not interested in competition? Plz.

I specifically said shotgun, that is a gun that shoots shot, in German a Flinte, guns with smoothbore barrels. Category D according to Austrian law, free for anyone aged 18 and older to own in Austria. Even my beloved Gewehr 98 repeating rifle (Repetierbüchse) is category C according to Austrian law, free for anyone aged 18 and older to own in Austria. I'd only need to register it with the government.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450700.html
Relevant link (thanks for linking to that page in the first place).

Handguns and semiautomatic rifles are category B and require everything you listed. And I am not that much interested in them. I want a Gewehr 98 with a Spandau production mark and shoot that maybe once every 2-3 months just for fun. German law means I have to jump through comparatively a lot of hoops just for that. In Austria just for the Gewehr 98 I want I wouldn't have to. I could buy it and be done with it. If I have to go through all that paperwork, be prepared that I will certainly get the allowed guns.

[Liare]

you got a Stahlhelm with that 98 ?

[Joe Appleby]

you got a Stahlhelm with that 98 ?

No and I am not talking about the WWII version called Karabiner 98k.

[metacannibal]

you got a Stahlhelm with that 98 ?

No and I am not talking about the WWII version called Karabiner 98k.

[Joe Appleby]

you got a Stahlhelm with that 98 ?

No and I am not talking about the WWII version called Karabiner 98k.

That's the one.

[Liare]

you got a Stahlhelm with that 98 ?

No and I am not talking about the WWII version called Karabiner 98k.

the Stahlhelm is a design originally from 1916 m8, perfectly in line with a Gewehr 98.

[Joe Appleby]

you got a Stahlhelm with that 98 ?

No and I am not talking about the WWII version called Karabiner 98k.

the Stahlhelm is a design originally from 1916 m8.

I know. Do you really think I didn't know it was called the M1916?

[evil edna]

doubting a germans pedantic autism, its like you people learned nothing from the occupation Liare

[Tellenta]

Joe plz

Yes I should move to Austria and just walk into a store and walk out with a shotgun.

Tapapapatalk

Except you couldn't.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450800.html

tl;dr: - justification for a need of ownership (negligible hurdle)
- psychological exam*
- some kind of training (lol)

*[unless you have a hunters' license; which is a 2 1/2 months/80hrs course @1500€]

Not exactly "walking in and walking out again"

Also, what the fuck do you need a gun for if you explicitly state you're not interested in competition? Plz.

I specifically said shotgun, that is a gun that shoots shot, in German a Flinte, guns with smoothbore barrels. Category D according to Austrian law, free for anyone aged 18 and older to own in Austria. Even my beloved Gewehr 98 repeating rifle (Repetierbüchse) is category C according to Austrian law, free for anyone aged 18 and older to own in Austria. I'd only need to register it with the government.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450700.html
Relevant link (thanks for linking to that page in the first place).

Handguns and semiautomatic rifles are category B and require everything you listed. And I am not that much interested in them. I want a Gewehr 98 with a Spandau production mark and shoot that maybe once every 2-3 months just for fun. German law means I have to jump through comparatively a lot of hoops just for that. In Austria just for the Gewehr 98 I want I wouldn't have to. I could buy it and be done with it. If I have to go through all that paperwork, be prepared that I will certainly get the allowed guns.

Is there rent you can rent and shoot so you don't need to go through the whole rigmarole of becoming a gun owner?

[cullnean]

Joe plz

Yes I should move to Austria and just walk into a store and walk out with a shotgun.

Tapapapatalk

Except you couldn't.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450800.html

tl;dr: - justification for a need of ownership (negligible hurdle)
- psychological exam*
- some kind of training (lol)

*[unless you have a hunters' license; which is a 2 1/2 months/80hrs course @1500€]

Not exactly "walking in and walking out again"

Also, what the fuck do you need a gun for if you explicitly state you're not interested in competition? Plz.

I specifically said shotgun, that is a gun that shoots shot, in German a Flinte, guns with smoothbore barrels. Category D according to Austrian law, free for anyone aged 18 and older to own in Austria. Even my beloved Gewehr 98 repeating rifle (Repetierbüchse) is category C according to Austrian law, free for anyone aged 18 and older to own in Austria. I'd only need to register it with the government.

https://www.help.gv.at/Portal.Node/h...e.2450700.html
Relevant link (thanks for linking to that page in the first place).

Handguns and semiautomatic rifles are category B and require everything you listed. And I am not that much interested in them. I want a Gewehr 98 with a Spandau production mark and shoot that maybe once every 2-3 months just for fun. German law means I have to jump through comparatively a lot of hoops just for that. In Austria just for the Gewehr 98 I want I wouldn't have to. I could buy it and be done with it. If I have to go through all that paperwork, be prepared that I will certainly get the allowed guns.

Is there rent you can rent and shoot so you don't need to go through the whole rigmarole of becoming a gun owner?

cant do forward rolls round your apartment with a rented gun