I don't need IT, ipads fuck ralara every day (IT thread)

[Itiken]

disclaimer: not my story:

#38Posted: 2012.04.27 10:54 | Report
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When I worked for a para-military company, we quickly learned that reusing password was good only in the programmers' heads.

People would do the IMPOSSIBLE to circumvent it.

1) In the beginning they would just add a "1" after the password.
2) Requiring certain characters, they just added their birth year at the end of the password.
3) Requiring a minimum length, they just copy pasted their own name twice.
4) Reusing the passwords they just added incremental numbers or a combo of the above or the month of the changed password.


When we made filters to screw them up on the above, they started writing the passwords on Post It attached to their monitors.

When we involved their bosses to force them stop doing that, all went suddenly quiet for 2-3 months.


We could not believe we had won against the End Users.
We could not be fartest from the truth, in fact.

A parent company team of inspectors came for a routine control and guess what did they find?

The end users ALL opened the same Excel sheet one of them originally created. That Excel sheet had the full user names and passwords of the 1200 employees, all in clear of course.


So, instead of better security, we achieve an huge piece of sh!t.


Heads fell, reprimands were made, everything settled down.


2 more months of utter silence and guess what, one morning I randomly pass close to an End User and my eyes and my ********* fell to the floor together.

They - the End Users - somehow created an MS Access forms "application" including the passwords (in clear of course!!!) of every employee, for multiple applications AND with search engine to make it easier to find and copy / paste them!


:headdesk.jpg:

amused me anyway.

[firefoxx80]

disclaimer: not my story:

<password fail>

amused me anyway.

We used to have a complex password scheme, but it's become more relaxed in the last few months.

Old:
Min 8 chars;
Must not be a recognised pattern (postcode, car registration, etc) or dictionary word (even in 1337 speak)

New:
Min 10 chars, max 128;
Must have one upper, one lower, one number, one non-alphanumeric (space, punctuation, etc.)

We still have to change them every 4 months though, and we can't reuse a password that we've used before. Which is a pisser for those who have been ehre 10+ years.

[definatelynotKKassandra]

If the users are going to that much trouble to get around the password rules, the problem probably isn't them.

[Liare]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17869815

So, any FHC'ers work at Huffington Post?

Also, solved the SCCM fuckup.

Role001 != Roles001

true != True

welcome to the wonderful world of SCCM, where boolean values are strings, ande where singular roles are written as multiples. you still haven't earned your badge and pint of bitter yet, but its getting there.

Re : Password policies

who the fuck came up with the "MUST CHANGE IT EVERY 3 MONTHS!" anyway ? unless the individual is in a public place when they use it, the damn thing does nothing but annoy users...
our company, doing the things we do have a bunch of guidelines handed down from somewhere with a TLA, so we have enforced password changes but bugger me nobody can really prove to us that it improves safety over leaving it fixed and mandating changes if the user suspects its compromised.

as for complexity, we badly want to force something like this and no changes, sadly previously mentioned TLA moves at a glacial speed when it comes to policy updates. (and some things are not worth the effort)

[Aea]

Password policies drive me up a wall. They should be as simple as length and maybe a number or two. Some of the services I use require capital letters, some require special characters, some prohibit special characters, some require eight characters, some require exactly eight characters.

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[Spaztick]

[Lana Torrin]

Password policies drive me up a wall. They should be as simple as length and maybe a number or two. Some of the services I use require capital letters, some require special characters, some prohibit special characters, some require eight characters, some require exactly eight characters.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Funny thing is these all end up making your passwords less secure because most people can't remember the thousands of passwords they are required to remember so pick easy ones.

It also reduces the amount of combinations to brute force.

[Liare]

today was not a good day.

the low point was probably the point where i had to concede defeat to a HP CM1015 color laser printer.

you see, this terrible piece of machinery does not do Ethernet because its "too good for that shit!" so you have to run it via USB and printer sharing, and apparantly nobody at HP ever considered the scenario in practice, so the only way to get the drivers is via WinFAIL update or use the craptastic "UNIVERSAL PRINTING DRIVER THAT ONLY EXSIST BECAUSE WE ARE TOO RETARDED TO CREATE OUR "GLORIOUS" DEVICES TO TAKE GENERIC WINDOWNS DRIVERS!" from HP when you run W7.

now, apparently the old fashioned way of double clicking the shared printer is no longer supported™ so you have to add it the new fangled way via a UNC path in the "add printer" panel (a exercise in fail UI design on its own that one)

only the fucking thing wont print in color, i have tried every trick in the book including forcing the color setting and its still refusing to work beyond printing black and white (and forget about those fancy scanning features, we support them anymore, buy a new expensive MFD and maybe we will consider it!)



(sharing host is a Windows XP one)

[Brullig]

today was not a good day.

the low point was probably the point where i had to concede defeat to a HP CM1015 color laser printer.

you see, this terrible piece of machinery does not do Ethernet because its "too good for that shit!" so you have to run it via USB and printer sharing, and apparantly nobody at HP ever considered the scenario in practice, so the only way to get the drivers is via WinFAIL update or use the craptastic "UNIVERSAL PRINTING DRIVER THAT ONLY EXSIST BECAUSE WE ARE TOO RETARDED TO CREATE OUR "GLORIOUS" DEVICES TO TAKE GENERIC WINDOWNS DRIVERS!" from HP when you run W7.

now, apparently the old fashioned way of double clicking the shared printer is no longer supported™ so you have to add it the new fangled way via a UNC path in the "add printer" panel (a exercise in fail UI design on its own that one)

only the fucking thing wont print in color, i have tried every trick in the book including forcing the color setting and its still refusing to work beyond printing black and white (and forget about those fancy scanning features, we support them anymore, buy a new expensive MFD and maybe we will consider it!)



(sharing host is a Windows XP one)

If you print the test/config page, will it print in color?

[Brullig]

today was not a good day.

the low point was probably the point where i had to concede defeat to a HP CM1015 color laser printer.

you see, this terrible piece of machinery does not do Ethernet because its "too good for that shit!" so you have to run it via USB and printer sharing, and apparantly nobody at HP ever considered the scenario in practice, so the only way to get the drivers is via WinFAIL update or use the craptastic "UNIVERSAL PRINTING DRIVER THAT ONLY EXSIST BECAUSE WE ARE TOO RETARDED TO CREATE OUR "GLORIOUS" DEVICES TO TAKE GENERIC WINDOWNS DRIVERS!" from HP when you run W7.

now, apparently the old fashioned way of double clicking the shared printer is no longer supported™ so you have to add it the new fangled way via a UNC path in the "add printer" panel (a exercise in fail UI design on its own that one)

only the fucking thing wont print in color, i have tried every trick in the book including forcing the color setting and its still refusing to work beyond printing black and white (and forget about those fancy scanning features, we support them anymore, buy a new expensive MFD and maybe we will consider it!)



(sharing host is a Windows XP one)

If you print the test/config page, will it print in color?

[Liare]

obviously not.

[Ben Derindar]

today was not a good day.

the low point was probably the point where i had to concede defeat to a HP CM1015 color laser printer.

[halbarad]

printer trouble

If you print the test/config page, will it print in color?

I assume he means print the test page from the printer itself. It's likely the usual method of holding the cancel button for 5 - 10 seconds. I know we had a bunch of issues with a few models of HP printer not working with Win7 but I'm sure we have a few older models that do work.

[Itiken]

only the fucking thing wont print in color,

hmm. WE've 3 jetdirected 5550 lazerjets at work. 2 print in color. 1 won't. i've ordered a replacement jetdirect card for it to see if that's fucked, but i would be interested in updates via your newsletter. These print a local test page fine, just not via anything else. fml

Today - i had the fun of sitting in our server room for 3 hours while 3x 24port cable runs were layed for our new switch stack.
Secure building means no-one without security clearance and a particular level of internal clearance can be left alone = asking them to go outside whiel i go for a piss.
however, these new (48 port Juniper EX4200) switches are seriously sexy.
no - really - they are gorgeous.

[IceBlock]

We enforce proven and tested network printers in our environment so we have none of these problems you speak of. -_-

[Liare]

printer trouble

If you print the test/config page, will it print in color?

I assume he means print the test page from the printer itself. It's likely the usual method of holding the cancel button for 5 - 10 seconds. I know we had a bunch of issues with a few models of HP printer not working with Win7 but I'm sure we have a few older models that do work.

if he means that he should consider typing it tbh, what he's talking about is, in my eyes, the printer test page from Windows.

and of course the damn thing prints in color, when the cowOKERS nearby can print in color just fine, and the demo page comes out fine, i did not spend like a year at Lexmark doing 1st/2nd line support without picking up a few basic pointers.

only the fucking thing wont print in color,

hmm. WE've 3 jetdirected 5550 lazerjets at work. 2 print in color. 1 won't. i've ordered a replacement jetdirect card for it to see if that's fucked, but i would be interested in updates via your newsletter. These print a local test page fine, just not via anything else. fml

Today - i had the fun of sitting in our server room for 3 hours while 3x 24port cable runs were layed for our new switch stack.
Secure building means no-one without security clearance and a particular level of internal clearance can be left alone = asking them to go outside whiel i go for a piss.
however, these new (48 port Juniper EX4200) switches are seriously sexy.
no - really - they are gorgeous.

right now i am looking at plugging a D-Link print server on it i found lying around, no clue if it works but it has LPT ports and the printer does too, so a relatively small chance of WTFAIL situations, and fuck scanning functionality in the ear in this regard, the damn thing needs to be turned into a boat anchor.

We enforce proven and tested network printers in our environment so we have none of these problems you speak of. -_-

bollocks

you just havent dealt with a OS migration, its directly related to the incremental Windows 7 roll-out and its the kind of :fuckingretard: you cant predict because IT SHOULD NOT FUCKING HAPPEN TO BEGIN WITH.

[Al Simmons]

today was not a good day.

the low point was probably the point where i had to concede defeat to a HP CM1015 color laser printer.

you see, this terrible piece of machinery does not do Ethernet because its "too good for that shit!" so you have to run it via USB and printer sharing, and apparantly nobody at HP ever considered the scenario in practice, so the only way to get the drivers is via WinFAIL update or use the craptastic "UNIVERSAL PRINTING DRIVER THAT ONLY EXSIST BECAUSE WE ARE TOO RETARDED TO CREATE OUR "GLORIOUS" DEVICES TO TAKE GENERIC WINDOWNS DRIVERS!" from HP when you run W7.

now, apparently the old fashioned way of double clicking the shared printer is no longer supported™ so you have to add it the new fangled way via a UNC path in the "add printer" panel (a exercise in fail UI design on its own that one)

only the fucking thing wont print in color, i have tried every trick in the book including forcing the color setting and its still refusing to work beyond printing black and white (and forget about those fancy scanning features, we support them anymore, buy a new expensive MFD and maybe we will consider it!)



(sharing host is a Windows XP one)

Oldie but goldie

[Waagaa]

Password policies drive me up a wall. They should be as simple as length and maybe a number or two. Some of the services I use require capital letters, some require special characters, some prohibit special characters, some require eight characters, some require exactly eight characters.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

keepass.

[Waagaa]

Piece of shit double posting grrr grrr ffs... blehhh

[Itiken]

*is writing SCCM guides for desktop monkey staff fuckwads*
*is going to regret this*