I don't need IT, ipads fuck ralara every day (IT thread)

[Lana Torrin]

support personell complaining about retarded users and then complain about retarded support staff further down the line. I think I am starting to see a pattern. >_>

everybody is retarded to some degree.

especially if you're from norway.

This is true. I have been a 'smart' customer exactly once in my life and this was when my modem blew up 2 months after leaving the ISP I had been working for (phone and internet were still with them) and the call went something like "Hello random helpdesk person that I trained, can you have a word with Sam and find out of that modem I got for the ADSL 2 trial is still covered by warranty". It wasn't..

Every other time I have called them they have failed to notice I still have the staff discount applied to my account (going on 8 years now) and treat me like every other dumb idiot.. Which is good because "Yes I have tried turning it off and on ag... oh wait.. shit that worked".

[gtphanta]

Reminds me of a customer I had the other day, though thankfully she didn't blame everything on me. If I had to guess, I'd say she was maybe 25 or so.

I was the only one there, standing in the back checking my tickets, and she comes up to the counter and yells across the department, "HOW MUCH FOR AN UPGRADE?" She wasn't holding anything, no backpack/case that might be hiding a laptop, I had nothing to go on. I try to keep a straight face and walk over. I say something like prices can vary wildly depending on what she wants to upgrade on her computer. Memory tends to be the cheapest and quickest option, usually less than $100 parts+labor but it still varies.

"No, my friend just put more in it, I think it has 500 bytes now. It doesn't need any more parts, I just want an upgrade."

I'm beginning to show my "This makes zero sense" smile now, I can't help it.

"Maybe you mean upgrading windows, that can be a good thing to do but is expensive if you can't do it yourself. What version does it have now?"

"I think it has 7VistaXP, is that a good one?"

I begin lose it at this point. I didn't have a chance. Thankfully she seemed to realize she had no idea what she was asking and seemed ready to go.

"Maybe you should bring it in so we can have a look at it. I could get you a more exact estimate then. Have a good day."

I couldn't keep it together once she was out of earshot.

Helpdesk: Have you rebooted it yet?

User: Yes, I've rebooted it twice and restarted it once.

[balistic void]

Spending my sunday (on bznz trip in london) migrating JIRA+Confluence onto a proper blade server. Found it very amusing that Atlassian give you a prize if you manage to actually install their products https://confluence.atlassian.com/dis...ere+Be+Dragons

[Hast]

Atlassian is the best tbh.

[erichkknaar]

Atlassian is the best tbh.

qft.

[Vaksai]

It is now Monday, and most servers and shit is still down.

Sadly, mail is up and so is our helpdesk, so I guess I'll have to work today...

[dr axler]

So am I the only one here who likes .net and c#?

May I ask what is with all the hate?

[firefoxx80]

I like C# and .NET!

I suspect they be hatin' cus they jelly. (j/k)

[Liare]

So am I the only one here who likes .net and c#?

May I ask what is with all the hate?

anything made with it is invariably a substandard product that's likely to cause annoyances and wierd issues to no end because it was coded entirely by muppets.

scratch the last one, muppets would produce superior code.

[Lana Torrin]

I like C# and .NET!

I suspect they be hatin' cus they jelly. (j/k)

Its not fucking excel marcros or access so its alright with me.

[Frug]

So am I the only one here who likes .net and c#?

May I ask what is with all the hate?

I like it. It could be better, but so could everything.

This debate has been had in this forum a few times though. Please bundle it with arguments about how PHP is the worst thing ever. I think C++ is the only "good" language. Nobody's allowed to bitch it out.

[Hast]

So am I the only one here who likes .net and c#?

May I ask what is with all the hate?

I like it. It could be better, but so could everything.

This debate has been had in this forum a few times though. Please bundle it with arguments about how PHP is the worst thing ever. I think C++ is the only "good" language. Nobody's allowed to bitch it out.

C++ is an abomination

[elmicker]

C++ is an abomination

not emptyquoting. also php is the worst language ever.

i think most of the c#.net hate comes from a combination of it being a microsoft product and therefore attracting the ire of fossnazis everywhere, and from the fact most software types for the past decade and a bit were taught to program in java, so to them c#.net represents something that is just different enough from what they're used to to be really annoying.

[Lana Torrin]

C++ is an abomination

not emptyquoting. also php is the worst language ever.

i think most of the c#.net hate comes from a combination of it being a microsoft product and therefore attracting the ire of fossnazis everywhere, and from the fact most software types for the past decade and a bit were taught to program in java, so to them c#.net represents something that is just different enough from what they're used to to be really annoying.

Hey PHP is a great language for hacking up proof of concept sites.

[IceBlock]

There is nothing wrong with PHP. Just because people seem to jump the RoR and Django train does not mean that everything else sucks.

[Irrelephant]

i think most of the c#.net hate comes from a combination of it being a microsoft product and therefore attracting the ire of fossnazis everywhere, and from the fact most software types for the past decade and a bit were taught to program in java, so to them c#.net represents something that is just different enough from what they're used to to be really annoying.

.net 4.0 and visual studio have come a long way. There is however so much old stuff in use which is just terribad design it makes you vomit inside everytime you see it. Had the 'pleasure' to extend a 10 year old erp system written in VB, com+ crap and 99% of the business logic consisted of stored sql procedures. The devs apparently never heard about db normalization or even a consistent naming scheme. It's still advertised as state of the art and sold.

That aside there is very little innovation from MS, as usual they always have to make their own product/standard of something that is already there and working. Most of the time they don't get it right the first time or leave out import parts that are kinda integral to the whole thing. The new entity framework is a good example, for simple stuff it's alright but for this day and age it's subpar to other ORMs out there. WPF looks impressive when you start out, however the hoops you have to jump through for some of the more fancy stuff are pretty mindboggling, well i guess the same can be said for every rad framework. Atleast the msdn site is a good resource for finding solutions and prolly the saving grace for the whole thing.

Personally java > dot.net, hopefully i'm out of dot.not land soon.

[elmicker]

There is nothing wrong with PHP.

php is bad and you should feel bad. no one's doubting it'll eventually do the job you want it to do, and in the scrubtastic world of web design that's the only criterion applied to processes, but it is a terrible language.

[Aea]

There is nothing wrong with PHP.

php is bad and you should feel bad. no one's doubting it'll eventually do the job you want it to do, and in the scrubtastic world of web design that's the only criterion applied to processes, but it is a terrible language.

Programmer fap material. Confirming that PHP is awful awful awful and C++ is an abomination.

[Lana Torrin]

There is nothing wrong with PHP.

php is bad and you should feel bad. no one's doubting it'll eventually do the job you want it to do, and in the scrubtastic world of web design that's the only criterion applied to processes, but it is a terrible language.

Programmer fap material. Confirming that PHP is awful awful awful and C++ is an abomination.

I used to like you.....

[halka]

That article made me look into Perl/Catalyst when I've first read it. I haven't made much progress since setting up a dev environment >_>