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    Re: [Megathread] Game of Thrones [Spoilers]

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    A woman who's hot today would have been hot in medieval times
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    Is really a picture of a famous painting that is stuck in a big museum seen by millions of tourists including kiddies and reproduced millions of art textbooks for schools "NSFW".
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    Re: [Megathread] Game of Thrones [Spoilers]

    So widely known tits are safer for work than normal ones?

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    it's a painted titty, it's not real and the paint is 600 years old. Go fantasize licking that shit.


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    Yes, what people consider "hot" has changed - mostly it's gotten thinner, ever since obesity started to be a thing that was possible for normal folks. But the same woman born in 1990 or 990 would look the same, and be equally hittable, assuming no untimely infant mortality, terrible malnutrition, or disfiguring diseases.
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    Weren't people in medieval times considerably smaller though (height wise). I remember visiting some old castles in Austria and all the beds were hilariously small.

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    Yeah, having lots of food in childhood increases heights pretty dramatically.
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    the same woman born in 990AD wouldn't have the hint of polynesia in her eyes, or the chilean skin tone, or frequently even the now failry common blending of saxon and latin genepools. whatever... i'm sure there's be woman in 990AD that would be universally considered hot now, but most of the women considered hot here in 2011AD wouldn't be found in 990AD.

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    Chilean, Polynesian - what? Who are you referring to? Clarke and Headey are both English, and usually Wikipedia has more about ancestry if there's any more to say.
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    I think hes referring to the fact that the pool from which our genetic material comes from these days is far greater. In 990AD the English gene pool wouldn't have included elements of genetics from outside of the immediate area.

    So even though those actresses may be English by birth and nationality, the genetic history of their ancestors includes elements that wouldn't have been called English a thousand years ago.

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    Although I'm not very knowledgeable on the matter I assume this is the case. A woman from England in 990 would have either Saxon, Pict, Irish, Welsh, and very rarely some Mediterranean in her.

    Now there might be some of any of the various Germanic tribes in her, Scandinavian, Muslim, Indian, Asian, Latin American, African, Caribbean, Malay, Socttish, etc etc.

    Not a a lot of people I know can honestly go through there ancestry and find it's purely Anglo-Saxon or purely Celtic.

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    Its the globalisation of the genetic pool

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    Re: [Megathread] Game of Thrones [Spoilers]

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome
    the same woman born in 990AD wouldn't have the hint of polynesia in her eyes, or the chilean skin tone, or frequently even the now failry common blending of saxon and latin genepools. whatever... i'm sure there's be woman in 990AD that would be universally considered hot now, but most of the women considered hot here in 2011AD wouldn't be found in 990AD.
    She would also be wearing different clothes, and have her forehead shaved. No one would be wearing leather pants nor pants for that matter. Disease wasn't uniform across the globe and some civilizations were much less effected than others. While some mechanics like sword fighting, armor effectiveness, and strategies can transfer from medieval Europe to fantasy easily, others like disease history and infrastructure cannot. Hell, not having lost the engineering and aqueduct maintenance skills by the size and scope of the Romans would do away with many afflictions that tormented Europe. But then so would basic house cleanliness. But truely, to be arguing about skintones when those countries do not exist in that world nor have any sort of comparison are pretty derp.

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    Re: [Megathread] Game of Thrones [Spoilers]

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome
    the same woman born in 990AD wouldn't have the hint of polynesia in her eyes, or the chilean skin tone, or frequently even the now failry common blending of saxon and latin genepools. whatever... i'm sure there's be woman in 990AD that would be universally considered hot now, but most of the women considered hot here in 2011AD wouldn't be found in 990AD.
    She would also be wearing different clothes, and have her forehead shaved. No one would be wearing leather pants nor pants for that matter. Disease wasn't uniform across the globe and some civilizations were much less effected than others.
    sounds fucking hot!

    and arguing about anything related to a fantasy shw is all herpa-derp. but it's clean harmless fun and we love it, so get you you big meanie

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    Only got turned onto this show last week. Got my hands on all the episodes and watched them over a few days. I'm not going through all 75 pages but I assume somebody has already mentioned Sean Bean using his Martin Septim voice?

    It's the abundance of British/Irish (and that one Danish guy) actors that make this show great, though the wee American is stealing the show.

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    Though there are some general rules to how we judge beauty, the specifics certainly change over time and saying that what we consider attractive today would've been considered attractive at any point in history is somewhat dubious. The depictions of women in art over the centuries certainly prove something else and the easiest example for this is tan: it's considered healthy and attractive today to have it, the exact opposite was true for the majority of time before that.

    However that really wasn't my point as I never said anything about beauty. Catelyn looks like she's been through a harsh, pre-industrial life and that is a stark contrast to Daenarys and Cersei, who both really don't. If you think they fit their roles anyway you are free to do so, but it's a kind of movie / TV phenomenon I don't really like, where women are presented according to our standards of aesthetics (especially makeup) at any time, place, setting or scene regardless of whether it fits or not. It's kind of a sin to show women in any sort of media without a massive overhaul of some sort, be it layers of makeup or photoshop postprocessing. Compare that to let's say Boardwalk Empire and you see the difference in authenticity.

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    Well if you prefer to look at some ugly pockmarked hunchbacked had-ten-kids-at-age-25 slob for 75 minutes feel free.

    I for one prefer to look at pretty tits.

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    Re: [Megathread] Game of Thrones [Spoilers]

    Quote Originally Posted by Spawinte
    Only got turned onto this show last week. Got my hands on all the episodes and watched them over a few days. I'm not going through all 75 pages but I assume somebody has already mentioned Sean Bean using his Martin Septim voice?

    It's the abundance of British/Irish (and that one Danish guy) actors that make this show great, though the wee American is stealing the show.
    Irish extras very evident in the last episode I was just waiting for one of the Northern lords to say to Rob "hullo boss".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarantine
    Though there are some general rules to how we judge beauty, the specifics certainly change over time and saying that what we consider attractive today would've been considered attractive at any point in history is somewhat dubious. The depictions of women in art over the centuries certainly prove something else and the easiest example for this is tan: it's considered healthy and attractive today to have it, the exact opposite was true for the majority of time before that.

    However that really wasn't my point as I never said anything about beauty. Catelyn looks like she's been through a harsh, pre-industrial life and that is a stark contrast to Daenarys and Cersei, who both really don't. If you think they fit their roles anyway you are free to do so, but it's a kind of movie / TV phenomenon I don't really like, where women are presented according to our standards of aesthetics (especially makeup) at any time, place, setting or scene regardless of whether it fits or not. It's kind of a sin to show women in any sort of media without a massive overhaul of some sort, be it layers of makeup or photoshop postprocessing. Compare that to let's say Boardwalk Empire and you see the difference in authenticity.
    Daenarys is 13 at the time and has lived her life in different mansions and palaces in the free cities. Expecting her to look like she has had a hard rough life is a little over the top, wouldn't you say? You are right about Cersei though, she's 2 years younger than Catelyn but it doesn't show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euriti
    Daenarys is 13 at the time and has lived her life in different mansions and palaces in the free cities. Expecting her to look like she has had a hard rough life is a little over the top, wouldn't you say? You are right about Cersei though, she's 2 years younger than Catelyn but it doesn't show.
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