[SHC Repost] Rookie mistakes you just cant help making.

[Hatepeace Lovewar]

Checking my kill stats on eve kill while on a solo roam in 0.0 and getting ganked.

[ry ry]

This month alone i have killed my own lg snake clone and a set of +4s from failcloning.

I also manually ripped out a full set of +5s whilst holding cloak and muttering darkly to myself after jumping my pod into a rapecage.

[Lady Spank]

That could only be funnier if you got your pod out.

I keep forgetting what rockets to use versus different tech II resist profiles.

[WatsonMayte]

This month alone i have killed my own lg snake clone and a set of +4s from failcloning.

I also manually ripped out a full set of +5s whilst holding cloak and muttering darkly to myself after jumping my pod into a rapecage.

What hardwirings did you use along with the lg snakes?

[Daneel Trevize]

Mistakes so far:
* thinking that the only station in a lowsec system isn't a kickout, and you aren't JCing into a stupid situation.
* thinking that http://kos.cva-eve.org/?q=Daneel+Trevize is accurate. Apparenly their pilots are pro at looking up your last non-NPC corp in the time it takes to lock (which they knew to do preemptively, even if ur not overview-red and just undocking), and EACS (the clone service not-a-real-corp that you can't remain in for more than ~24hours iirc) is in fact set red.
* thinking that when the client audio & logs says docking accepted, that you're safely redocked
* thinking that CVA give a shit about harbouring pirates that GCC on & kill anything they can gank
Fail everywhere

[ry ry]

This month alone i have killed my own lg snake clone and a set of +4s from failcloning.

I also manually ripped out a full set of +5s whilst holding cloak and muttering darkly to myself after jumping my pod into a rapecage.

What hardwirings did you use along with the lg snakes?

cant remember to be totally honest, it was a generic cheap speed clone so i guess it had 3% rogues or whatever they are now.

The worst part is that I only even realised it was gone a few days later - like a chump i had all my clones in one system in different stations and was pingponging around in a hurry.

[WatsonMayte]

I done that with my first ever set of +5's about three days after I got them, made me very careful with my clones from then on

[Lady Spank]

I have never had +5's and I have characters that will never undock

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Mistakes so far:
* thinking that the only station in a lowsec system isn't a kickout, and you aren't JCing into a stupid situation.
* thinking that http://kos.cva-eve.org/?q=Daneel+Trevize is accurate. Apparenly their pilots are pro at looking up your last non-NPC corp in the time it takes to lock (which they knew to do preemptively, even if ur not overview-red and just undocking), and EACS (the clone service not-a-real-corp that you can't remain in for more than ~24hours iirc) is in fact set red.
* thinking that when the client audio & logs says docking accepted, that you're safely redocked
* thinking that CVA give a shit about harbouring pirates that GCC on & kill anything they can gank
Fail everywhere

i dunno about the rest of it but what's that about?

[Daneel Trevize]

Well the proteus pilot clearly just shot me because he thought he could get a free killmail, he went GCC instantly with no way they could have rationally thought I was red. When asked in local, he said I was red to CVA, yet their/your tool then says otherwise, and then that diplo channel didn't seem to want to explore the concept that EACS is a long-standing temp corp for players of all ages, that no one can be in it long enough to realistically abuse being NRDS to CVA via it so it's retarded that it's apparently set red (and that the tool can't correctly process employment history). To claim that someone who's only non-NPC corp for the last ~14months was EACS is a valid target under a NRDS policy is just being a coward and/or abusing the NRDS policy. Either be a pirate and GCC whenever, that's fine, or be in CVA and let non-red people expect to be able to take a second to poke their head out of a station when they only see CVA tickers in local/on overview. I could have warped if I'd not let my guard down on seeing the ticker while wanting to return to redock. Either CVA diplos know that dude/his corp are using CVA to dupe targets and are in on it (making the CVA RP pointless afaik), or they're being duped too but didn't seem to understand that.
I'm mostly just mad that the plate+rep fit tanked the idiots to crawl back into dock range, but I got denied from saving the ship by CCP.

[Lady Spank]

I like when CVA advised me to stop loitering and move on, for my safety, while trying to goad some of their tackle off their battle-ball.

[Rudolf Miller]

Buying a rig marked up 2.5x make price and not figuring it out for a while.

[John's Cow]

Well the proteus pilot clearly just shot me because he thought he could get a free killmail, he went GCC instantly with no way they could have rationally thought I was red. When asked in local, he said I was red to CVA, yet their/your tool then says otherwise, and then that diplo channel didn't seem to want to explore the concept that EACS is a long-standing temp corp for players of all ages, that no one can be in it long enough to realistically abuse being NRDS to CVA via it so it's retarded that it's apparently set red (and that the tool can't correctly process employment history). To claim that someone who's only non-NPC corp for the last ~14months was EACS is a valid target under a NRDS policy is just being a coward and/or abusing the NRDS policy. Either be a pirate and GCC whenever, that's fine, or be in CVA and let non-red people expect to be able to take a second to poke their head out of a station when they only see CVA tickers in local/on overview. I could have warped if I'd not let my guard down on seeing the ticker while wanting to return to redock. Either CVA diplos know that dude/his corp are using CVA to dupe targets and are in on it (making the CVA RP pointless afaik), or they're being duped too but didn't seem to understand that.
I'm mostly just mad that the plate+rep fit tanked the idiots to crawl back into dock range, but I got denied from saving the ship by CCP.

What the hell is going on in this post? Are you pissed because CVA didn't RP enough or because you got shot?

[Ophichius]

Welped a hookbill due to a rookie overview mistake. Set my 'type' column a bit too narrow. It truncated 'Stabber Fleet Issue' to 'Stabber'. Tiny bit of a difference there.

-O

[Daneel Trevize]

What the hell is going on in this post? Are you pissed because CVA didn't RP enough or because you got shot?

Why do you care? Why are all your posts so bad?

Also, why would I be pissed I got shot? I'd only be pissed if CCP's client told me I'd reacted successfully and then hadn't...

[Rania Serlia]

Repairing burned out modules in station. Undocking immediately without onlining them.

[Lady Spank]

More like docking up to repair burned out mods, taking advantage of the break to go to the toilet, returning and undocking without repairing or onlining mods.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

What the hell is going on in this post? Are you pissed because CVA didn't RP enough or because you got shot?

Why do you care? Why are all your posts so bad?

Also, why would I be pissed I got shot? I'd only be pissed if CCP's client told me I'd reacted successfully and then hadn't...

Well, thing is EACS for better ie worse IS red.

Frankly in that situation I would have probably not shot but "by law" he wasn't wrongif your last player corp is red.

edit: To clarify, EACS is red since you're red by last player corp when in an NPC corp. Since EACS takes anybody for 24h, it's silly to allow people to "launder" their corp history by ducking in to EACS. This does make it awkward for non-reds who do so as well, and for other wise neutral history it's a bit odd, BUT without stuff like that we'd all go completely insane trying to track NRDS.

[Ophichius]

Well, thing is EACS for better ie worse IS red.

Frankly in that situation I would have probably not shot but "by law" he wasn't wrongif your last player corp is red.

edit: To clarify, EACS is red since you're red by last player corp when in an NPC corp. Since EACS takes anybody for 24h, it's silly to allow people to "launder" their corp history by ducking in to EACS. This does make it awkward for non-reds who do so as well, and for other wise neutral history it's a bit odd, BUT without stuff like that we'd all go completely insane trying to track NRDS.

That's honestly not closing much of a loophole, at first glance it's reasonable, but it fails to stand up to any level of deeper thought. Laundering your corp history can be done through any old altcorp. Adding EACS to the red list honestly smells more of expanding your target list than preventing history hijinks. Either CVA reasoning is flawed, or they're not being honest about why EACS is really red.

-O

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Well, thing is EACS for better ie worse IS red.

Frankly in that situation I would have probably not shot but "by law" he wasn't wrongif your last player corp is red.

edit: To clarify, EACS is red since you're red by last player corp when in an NPC corp. Since EACS takes anybody for 24h, it's silly to allow people to "launder" their corp history by ducking in to EACS. This does make it awkward for non-reds who do so as well, and for other wise neutral history it's a bit odd, BUT without stuff like that we'd all go completely insane trying to track NRDS.

That's honestly not closing much of a loophole, at first glance it's reasonable, but it fails to stand up to any level of deeper thought. Laundering your corp history can be done through any old altcorp. Adding EACS to the red list honestly smells more of expanding your target list than preventing history hijinks. Either CVA reasoning is flawed, or they're not being honest about why EACS is really red.

-O

Single player corps or obvious "you and your alt" corps also don't count for history. We're not being devious we're being lazy and cautious. And as much as you may or may not want to believe it people have used EACS as a way to get the drop on people.