Battlefield 3 - Clearly wanting a DayZ mod

[Einar]

For those, who feel they have to play sniper recon, what rifle is best? I've got Assault and Support maxed, Eng is not far behind so leaves me with recon.

Personally, I like the M98. But, M40 was good, as is the L96. Have not delved too deeply into the JNG, although I have a feeling it'll be on-par with the M98. That's if you want to use bolt-action.

As an aside, I have come to the conclusion that the MTAR is, basically, an iWin button... after being insta-killed with it, then using it myself... fucking crazy accuracy and it's ability to rape when shooting from the hip... my god.

[Mr Marram]

HBAR makes aimed (sighted) shots more accurate, and lets you shoot through suppression MUCH better. it's definitely worth using on the G3, the recoil isn't much more affected by it, and since you should be bursting (2-3rds) with the G3 the recoil never really builds up anyway. flash supp slightly lowers your accuracy (both aimed and hip) so it sorta works better with the 'close range' ARs (f2k, famas)

scopes are personal preference i guess, but i always rock the g3 with either irons (great ironsights) or the ruskie 3.4, it has a really clear aimpoint (unlike the american with all the annoying lines) with a pretty rare colour in BF3 (red, lol). feels like it takes up slightly less screen space too.

you're right with the foregrip though, g3 really doesn't make much use from it. bipod works well, because the g3 is powerful enough to be a DMR if you need it quickly.

I thought they changed the flash hider to have the same effect on recoil and spread as the suppressor (both being reduced) but without the damage falloff reduction (and obviously sound/minimap hiding), acting like a compensator, it may have an accuracy nerf though.

I thought the foregrip reduced aimed accuracy (a dev brought that up in an interview IIRC) but reduced the horizontal spread.

As for the bolt action rifles, they are nearly all exactly the same, even the new JNG-90 (besides the M98 with loldamage and slower RoF). The one I liked the least was the L96 because it has shitty iron sights that block some of the view on lower powered scopes (red dot, holo, 3.4x, 4x).

On the topic of other crappy guns, the L-SAT is a bit shit, (I think I said this a few pages ago) bad recoil and meh damage and RoF, out classed by nearly all the other LMGs.
The SCAR-L is bad as it has the same RoF as the heavy variant (that the engineer gets) but with lower damage and a bigger clip, so it takes a while to put anyone down, nearly all the other ARs outperform it (maybe not the famas at range).

[Zilulil]

HBAR makes aimed (sighted) shots more accurate, and lets you shoot through suppression MUCH better. it's definitely worth using on the G3, the recoil isn't much more affected by it, and since you should be bursting (2-3rds) with the G3 the recoil never really builds up anyway. flash supp slightly lowers your accuracy (both aimed and hip) so it sorta works better with the 'close range' ARs (f2k, famas)

scopes are personal preference i guess, but i always rock the g3 with either irons (great ironsights) or the ruskie 3.4, it has a really clear aimpoint (unlike the american with all the annoying lines) with a pretty rare colour in BF3 (red, lol). feels like it takes up slightly less screen space too.

you're right with the foregrip though, g3 really doesn't make much use from it. bipod works well, because the g3 is powerful enough to be a DMR if you need it quickly.

I thought they changed the flash hider to have the same effect on recoil and spread as the suppressor (both being reduced) but without the damage falloff reduction (and obviously sound/minimap hiding), acting like a compensator, it may have an accuracy nerf though.

I thought the foregrip reduced aimed accuracy (a dev brought that up in an interview IIRC) but reduced the horizontal spread.

As for the bolt action rifles, they are nearly all exactly the same, even the new JNG-90 (besides the M98 with loldamage and slower RoF). The one I liked the least was the L96 because it has shitty iron sights that block some of the view on lower powered scopes (red dot, holo, 3.4x, 4x).

On the topic of other crappy guns, the L-SAT is a bit shit, (I think I said this a few pages ago) bad recoil and meh damage and RoF, out classed by nearly all the other LMGs.
The SCAR-L is bad as it has the same RoF as the heavy variant (that the engineer gets) but with lower damage and a bigger clip, so it takes a while to put anyone down, nearly all the other ARs outperform it (maybe not the famas at range).

Foregrip does reduce aimed accuracy (it was nerfed since it had no drawback and everybody put it on everything). The flash suppressor reduces vertical recoil (more than the silencer) at the expense of hip fire accuracy.

[teds :D]

HBAR makes aimed (sighted) shots more accurate, and lets you shoot through suppression MUCH better. it's definitely worth using on the G3, the recoil isn't much more affected by it, and since you should be bursting (2-3rds) with the G3 the recoil never really builds up anyway. flash supp slightly lowers your accuracy (both aimed and hip) so it sorta works better with the 'close range' ARs (f2k, famas)

scopes are personal preference i guess, but i always rock the g3 with either irons (great ironsights) or the ruskie 3.4, it has a really clear aimpoint (unlike the american with all the annoying lines) with a pretty rare colour in BF3 (red, lol). feels like it takes up slightly less screen space too.

you're right with the foregrip though, g3 really doesn't make much use from it. bipod works well, because the g3 is powerful enough to be a DMR if you need it quickly.

I thought they changed the flash hider to have the same effect on recoil and spread as the suppressor (both being reduced) but without the damage falloff reduction (and obviously sound/minimap hiding), acting like a compensator, it may have an accuracy nerf though.

I thought the foregrip reduced aimed accuracy (a dev brought that up in an interview IIRC) but reduced the horizontal spread.

As for the bolt action rifles, they are nearly all exactly the same, even the new JNG-90 (besides the M98 with loldamage and slower RoF). The one I liked the least was the L96 because it has shitty iron sights that block some of the view on lower powered scopes (red dot, holo, 3.4x, 4x).

On the topic of other crappy guns, the L-SAT is a bit shit, (I think I said this a few pages ago) bad recoil and meh damage and RoF, out classed by nearly all the other LMGs.
The SCAR-L is bad as it has the same RoF as the heavy variant (that the engineer gets) but with lower damage and a bigger clip, so it takes a while to put anyone down, nearly all the other ARs outperform it (maybe not the famas at range).

yeah thats what the grip does, G3 has barely any (if any at all) horizontal recoil though, so all you end up doing is messing up accuracy.

agree with the LSAT. the only advantage i've found is its recoil settles very quickly, but since you should really use these style of LMGs with a bipod that advantage is pretty shit considering you could just be using a PKP. apparently it's also better than the other 'heavy' LMGs at hipfiring, which isn't incredibly useful either. needs a damage buff imo. the SCAR is just pointless, if you want controllable mid-range use an L85. they missed a trick in not giving it it's own unique damage (like the G3 or the engi SCAR) or something.

[Ra owa]

I keep getting this bug where my vehicle perk selection won't save - it just defaults to stock the next time I load up BF3. I had heard of people getting this kind of loadout trouble with weapons because of gunmaster, but I don't think this has anything to do with that (it happens when I havn't been playing gunmaster, also). Any ideas?

[Rudolf Miller]

I keep getting this bug where my vehicle perk selection won't save - it just defaults to stock the next time I load up BF3. I had heard of people getting this kind of loadout trouble with weapons because of gunmaster, but I don't think this has anything to do with that (it happens when I havn't been playing gunmaster, also). Any ideas?

Confirming I had this problem too. Believe me I was pissed when I realized my tank was set up wrong.

[Jurskjeld]

[jbend9620]

dominating the noshahr crate area(shotgun hell) with the an-94

LIKE A BAWS.

[Einar]

Ugh.. the more I use the MTAR, the more I feel just downright dirty for using it... yet, at the same time it's fucking hilarious. Went 144/75 in my last match on TDC on 925.. 136 of which was the MTAR. hahaha

[Omega Supreme]

Ugh.. the more I use the MTAR, the more I feel just downright dirty for using it... yet, at the same time it's fucking hilarious. Went 144/75 in my last match on TDC on 925.. 136 of which was the MTAR. hahaha

Yeah seriously that gun is batshit beyond belief. Been using it too, easy 20+ kills per round.

[teds :D]

meh it's good, but it's a little too bouncy. m4/g36c still for me

how i wish we had semi-auto rifles as all-kit weapons though, something v satisfying running around with an m134 and acog'd m14 in bc2.

infact i seriously wish we had fucking m134s. they needed actual skill to use vs helis and stuff, was generally the only way i ever lost a blackhawk

[Ishanda]

I'm going to be pedantic here, you mean the M136 AT4, not the M134 which is not really a man portable weapon

On topic, I haven't played BF3 since after release and although I keep on trying to work up the enthusiasm to play again I just think of all the rage it caused and it instantly puts me off again

[Skidrowpunk]

I just want my Garand. I used to Garand the fuck out of everyone in BC2. BF3 needs a Garand and I'll never stop playing.

[teds :D]

I just want my Garand. I used to Garand the fuck out of everyone in BC2. BF3 needs a Garand and I'll never stop playing.

ping ping ping never not ping

[Omega Supreme]

meh it's good, but it's a little too bouncy. m4/g36c still for me
http://failheap-challenge.com/newrep...reply&p=492357
how i wish we had semi-auto rifles as all-kit weapons though, something v satisfying running around with an m134 and acog'd m14 in bc2.

infact i seriously wish we had fucking m134s. they needed actual skill to use vs helis and stuff, was generally the only way i ever lost a blackhawk

If we're talking launchers, I want my fucking Gustav back.

[teds :D]

and tracer darts

darting some recon, watching him try and run away while your RPG homes in and violates his anus...

ahhh good days

[Omega Supreme]

and tracer darts

darting some recon, watching him try and run away while your RPG homes in and violates his anus...

ahhh good days

The good old days. With 870MCS snipers, coward tanks and recons Thunderdoming the lighthouse on Valpiraso.

[teds :D]

and throwable c4! and maps actually designed for rush! and quads! and that fucking UAV! and guiding a rocket into the side of some faggot in an apache! and a knife that actually worked! and no dumb blue tint!

[teds :D]

and my fucking slugged neostead, c4 wielding magic ball tossing recon of destruction ):

[Varcaus]

and throwable c4! and maps actually designed for rush! and quads! and that fucking UAV! and guiding a rocket into the side of some faggot in an apache! and a knife that actually worked! and no dumb blue tint!

Knife works in bf3 m8