Does nobody remember what happened the last time a Governor of Texas became President?
Does nobody remember what happened the last time a Governor of Texas became President?
*rimshot*Originally Posted by Rodj Blake
do you even know what you're saying here
no we cannot
It's funny watching conservatives getting wet over this guy. They think he's the one.
tbh, also this thread is fucking retarded, the only good thing about eve-o is the ban on political discussion, should be the same here.
Yeah....we still had a AAA rating, less than half the deficit, and gas was below $2 a gallon. Yup...we were hurting.
Edit: Also...unemployment was about half too...
Go suck on Obama's dick some more.
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Yeah....we still had a AAA rating, less than half the deficit, and gas was below $2 a gallon. Yup...we were hurting.
Edit: Also...unemployment was about half too...
Go suck on Obama's dick some more.
Amirite?
I gotta disagree, Bush was a big spender too.Yeah....we still had a AAA rating, less than half the deficit, and gas was below $2 a gallon. Yup...we were hurting.
Edit: Also...unemployment was about half too...
Go suck on Obama's dick some more.
Also I hear it's the Texas legislature that is responsible for most of the successful policies. C/D?
I also hear they only meet every other year, DO WANT.
If you believe this, your understanding of the facts is blatantly incorrect. Alternatively, I'm being trolled.Yeah....we still had a AAA rating, less than half the deficit, and gas was below $2 a gallon. Yup...we were hurting.
Edit: Also...unemployment was about half too...
Go suck on Obama's dick some more.
The economic collapse, the TARP bailout, and auto industry bailout both happened on Bush's watch. Instability in the middle east and speculation have driven high gas prices, neither of which Obama could be conceivably responsible for. Part of the reason our deficeit on paper was so low was because the expenditures for Iraq and Afghanistan were not actually on the budget and funded via (routine) emergency requests from Congress. Employment, of course, is directly tied to the economic downturn.
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Yes, you are. Iraq is a pretty decent place these days compared to Iran,Syria,Egypt,Saudi Arabia,Yemen,Somalia, etc, etc, etc, etc. Of course that's because Obama lied and didn't pull out of Iraq, didn't end rendition, didn't repeal the patriot act, didn't close Gitmo, stuck to military tribunals.
Amirite?
On the [plus?] side, he did erm, yeah, the economy.
Edit: I forgot to mention Libya - which we attacked with no congressional approval, no clear mission, and no exit strategy. Seriously, at least Bush could get rid of a petty third world dictator. And Obama, who declared the Libyan leader *must go*....?
:credibility:
What do you consider "pretty decent"? Because Iraq today is metric fucktons worse than Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia.
If you're trying to draw parallels between our limited action in Libya and the Iraq invasion, I think you are losing your grip on reality mate.
It's also possible that I'm being trolled. God I hope I'm being trolled.
Last edited by Exortius; August 9 2011 at 02:14:38 PM.
Pretty much my thought. I like having a professor in the White House, literally.
Also, CELE! SQUEEE!
As someone who lived in and still has friends living in Egypt, I would like to take this opportunity to Laugh Out Loud
If the Tea Party hijacks the Republican ticket outright, Obama should win easily I'd imagine, just because they're generally batshit crazy, although Perry is probablyone of the more (relatively) sane ones out there. The real problem is if the Dems get tag-teamed by a Republican ticket of say Rommney and Perry. It would excite evangelicals, pro-business, and tea party types, and would likely to appear to the average moderate voter as a not-completely-insane GOP ticket, in contrast to say Rommney / Bacchman or Rommney / Palin.
If this GOP "dream team" appeared, Obama would likely loose all those states you mentioned, primarily due to the economy. The few potential exceptions would be Florida, where the GOP's fuckery with Medicare has created a potential opportunity for Dems to counterattack, or Nevada / Colorado due to high Latino and Democratic bases of support.
My rule of thumb is this - in a tight state race, always bet on the GOP. Unfortunately.
Not sure if srs.Yeah....we still had a AAA rating, less than half the deficit, and gas was below $2 a gallon. Yup...we were hurting.
Edit: Also...unemployment was about half too...
Go suck on Obama's dick some more.
You're a bit light on facts.
1. Obama said that when he got into office he would direct the military to end the war in Iraq. On his first day in office, January 21st. Immediately afterward he issued a statement saying that during the meeting he directed the military to begin "planning necessary to execute a responsible military drawdown from Iraq".
2. On January 27th, Obama signed an executive order creating a task force to find alternatives to rendition.
3. He never ran on repealing the Patriot act, but revisiting some of its key measures and possibly allowing them to expire. However the PA remains unchanged since he took office so you're half right on that one.
4. Obama tried to close Gitmo but eventually had to give up because Congress wouldn't find places inside the US (or allied countries) for most of those being held there
I'm happy to source any of these statements if you're interested.
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We're seeking a President to lead our entire nation, not someone to be buddy buddy about. Takes time to weigh his options? Early on I could give you the benefit of the doubt. Now? Too often he would rather someone else make the first move then follow up with PR. He would make a great information minister but he hasn't shown himself to be any kind of leader. Pelosi is a leader even if she is a bitch. She'll make hard decisions and follow through as well as take all responsibility for her actions? Obama is more like Teflon Don. Nothing is his fault.
Well I guess so if you leave out his Tea Party shennanigans. Do you realize just described Bush? He could troll Obama during the election season by popping up and saying "told you so" about his policies that Obama reinstated/continued but which Obama and friends protested/complained.And the man has some goddamned patience. Seriously, he's never been reduced to ad hominem, not once. Raised his voice a bit, yeah, but never gotten angry or personally attacked his opponents. Man's worthy of my respect, and that gets him my vote.
If he says so it must be true. Let's not forget that Obama rolled in on the whole anti-Bush sentiment while the Repubs were trying to field a "moderate"/RINO. He's not going to enjoy that advantage this time around and will have to play the "it's not my fault" game as hard as he can. Scapegoating the tea party is only going to go so far when people start wondering why he looks so weak. He'll have to show his real mettle and I expect things to get really ugly on his side pretty soon. Perry looks like a serious contender because of Texas's success for the past decade. Perry has been trimming government pretty hard but at the same time the state has flourished and start-ups/small businesses have been taking root. Fuck all else, it's about jobs right now. Social issues? Give me a break. No one genuinely cares if some gay guys get to marry when their own family is struggling to make ends meet. Citizens would burn down every social issue if it meant they had to choose between that and being able to work. And those swing states have been hit hard this year.At the end of the day, most of the electoral votes are non-competitive and so approval ratings really only matter in the following swing states: Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Missouri, and Indiana. Obama won all of those except Missouri, which he lost by less than 1%. The republicans need to win Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Missouri and Indiana, plus one of the following three: Iowa, Nevada or Colorado. Those last three states are very socially moderate and still only voted for McCain (a socially moderate candidate) with ~45% of the vote. The Republicans have no chance of taking one of those with a tea party aligned socially conservative candidate. See http://www.cookpolitical.com/
Whenever I hear/read the "lolobama sux roll on 2012" stuff, I just point out that in the middle of a massive recession, huge oil spill, two wars + libya, credit downgrade, etc etc, he still has a 48% approval rating. 45% if you prefer rasmussen et al. 48 fucking percent. Let that sink in. If things improve even marginally by election day, he will roll over the republican nominee (romney or perry, no way they'd be on the same ticket).
Mind you that was all approved by both parties at the time...you guys make it sound like Bush did everything on his own. Stop making him more powerful than he was.
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