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    Nope. It's negative-sum. Insurance is about paying to reduce variance. When there's no variance, you're just paying to reduce your wallet.
    It genuinely intrigues me that one individual could come up with everything that you do.
    Insurance companies are not exactly a not for profit. Or did you not know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenta View Post
    Insurance companies are not exactly a not for profit. Or did you not know that?
    And even if they were, they'd still have to pay their staff.
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    Is there any limit on what a non-profit can choose to pay its staff?

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    Is there any limit on what a non-profit can choose to pay its staff?
    Yes, it's generally known as the "Fuck this shit" wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herschel Yamamoto View Post

    Yes, it's generally known as the "Fuck this shit" wage.
    I mean top, not bottom. Wondering if I should start up a non-profit and pay myself an obscene salary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wall View Post
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    Yes, it's generally known as the "Fuck this shit" wage.
    I mean top, not bottom. Wondering if I should start up a non-profit and pay myself an obscene salary.
    This happens a lot, except for now you're still paying income taxes personally so...

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    Yes, it's generally known as the "Fuck this shit" wage.
    I mean top, not bottom. Wondering if I should start up a non-profit and pay myself an obscene salary.
    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herschel Yamamoto View Post
    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
    Why would I justify it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wall View Post
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    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
    Why would I justify it?
    Because they don't often give you money if you don't?
    "Make no mistake, Communism lost a big argument - one we know today as the 20th century."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herschel Yamamoto View Post
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    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
    Why would I justify it?
    Because they don't often give you money if you don't?
    Just hire a man with shiny white teeth and a good toupe, slap him on TV inbetween jesus commercials and laugh scornfully at anyone bitching about transparency.


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    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
    Why would I justify it?
    Because they don't often give you money if you don't?
    Just hire a man with shiny white teeth and a good toupe, slap him on TV inbetween jesus commercials and laugh scornfully at anyone bitching about transparency.
    I know quite a few people in the UK that works for nonprofit charity and their wages are actually way over the average and that's pretty normal. I don't know about the tops thats just regular employees.

    Not that I think that's a bad thing, charities should be the last sort of business to screw it's own employees.

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    And here I'd have thought "Charities should be the last sort of groups to waste money" would be more to the point.
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    Paying your workers a good wage is a waste of money
    FYP to show what you just said.

    Freupublican slip hu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
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    Paying your workers a good wage is a waste of money
    FYP to show what you just said.

    Freupublican slip hu?

    It makes me think of the phrase Charity begins at home. If a charitable organisation is shown to be taking advantage of its own employees how the hell is it going to convince anyone that it in fact charitable.

    All things considered the ones I know that work in those organisations like teachers do put a lot of their own "free" time into their jobs. As their jobs mainly centred around arranging events and suchlike it wasn't your typical 9/5 job in any case.


    If this thread became about how to scam lots of money fast I would have to say you are much better going for tele-evangelist then charity. Charities in most countries are strictly controlled. Tele evangelists on the other hand can do whatever the hell they like with the money =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
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    Paying your workers a good wage is a waste of money
    FYP to show what you just said.

    Freupublican slip hu?

    It makes me think of the phrase Charity begins at home. If a charitable organisation is shown to be taking advantage of its own employees how the hell is it going to convince anyone that it in fact charitable.

    All things considered the ones I know that work in those organisations like teachers do put a lot of their own "free" time into their jobs. As their jobs mainly centred around arranging events and suchlike it wasn't your typical 9/5 job in any case.


    If this thread became about how to scam lots of money fast I would have to say you are much better going for tele-evangelist then charity. Charities in most countries are strictly controlled. Tele evangelists on the other hand can do whatever the hell they like with the money =)

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    It depends on what you mean by "good wages", I guess. I'm not advocating screwing your employees as hard as you can, because if you do that then all the good ones will leave. Morale, employee quality, and all that other stuff does matter and is important. But paying "way over the average" for the sake of it(assuming that "average" refers to people of similar qualifications) is stupid - half the time it's a sanctioned form of siphoning off the top, and the other half it's just fuzzy-headed thinking. Pay people what you need to pay them to get good people, but don't go above that, because it tends to wreck your organization's finances and can even lead to some pretty perverse outcomes(people staying in jobs they hate because they can't do half as well elsewhere, for example).
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    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
    Why would I justify it?
    Because they don't often give you money if you don't?
    Just hire a man with shiny white teeth and a good toupe, slap him on TV inbetween jesus commercials and laugh scornfully at anyone bitching about transparency.
    I believe the usual method is to complain about religious persecution and hint that it's a gay/jewish/atheist/lizardman conspiracy

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    How are you getting the money into the nonprofit? I don't think there's a legal cap, but good luck justifying your 800% admin cost ratio to your donors.
    Why would I justify it?
    Because they don't often give you money if you don't?
    Just hire a man with shiny white teeth and a good toupe, slap him on TV inbetween jesus commercials and laugh scornfully at anyone bitching about transparency.
    fuck that, build a mega church, make real tax free money.

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