Meet the next President of the United States

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Sure, they were critical, even harsh, but not to the extremes we're seeing now. This is a party ripping itself to pieces, not even the Clintons were willing to do that.

You do remember Hilary started the birther conspiracy right?

Regardless, I agree. As it stands right now, whoever gets the nomination will already be so destroyed, no amount of propaganda will revive him.

Or if they survive and whatever becomes a none issue in the nationals. (wasn't rev wright and bill aires (sp) brought up in the primaries?)

[Andrea Griffin]

As it stands right now, whoever gets the nomination will already be so destroyed, no amount of propaganda will revive him.

Or if they survive and whatever becomes a none issue in the nationals. (wasn't rev wright and bill aires (sp) brought up in the primaries?)

Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground, and Jeremiah Wright of God Damn America fame were both indeed brought up rather early on in 2008 by people on the Right and the Left. As I mentioned much earlier in this thread though: By the time the elections came around, these things had been discussed and brought forth so much that people just didn't care anymore. The fire had gone out.

Much the same with whomever wins the primaries. The Left will have precious little ammunition that hasn't already been used; everything else will be ancient history. People will be sick of hearing the same thing over and over and over and the effect won't be very great.

Edit: Fixed a misspelling. My eyes are not so good today.

[Herschel Yamamoto]

Predicting record low turnout at election though

Always a safe bet.

Clinton has no interest in becoming president anymore afiak.

I'm sure she'd be happy to get the job, but she'll be almost as old in 2016 as McCain was in 2008. There's no way she'd win. She had her chance.

[Bartholomeus Crane]

As it stands right now, whoever gets the nomination will already be so destroyed, no amount of propaganda will revive him.

Or if they survive and whatever becomes a none issue in the nationals. (wasn't rev wright and bill aires (sp) brought up in the primaries?)

Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground, and Jeremiah Wright of God Damn America fame were both indeed brought up rather early on in 2008 by people on the Right and the Left. As I mentioned much earlier in this thread though: By the time the elections came around, these things had been discussed and brought forth so much that people just didn't care anymore. The fire had gone out.

Much the same with whomever wins the primaries. The Left will have precious little ammunition that hasn't already been used; everything else will be ancient history. People will be sick of hearing the same thing over and over and over and the effect won't be very great.

Edit: Fixed a misspelling. My eyes are not so good today.

Yes, nice theory, and it works fine on the birthers, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright and whatever. Mostly because for mainstream voters this issues don't really matter. They maybe go to the person in one way or the other, but they become quite boring after a while.

Now lets look at the issues thrown around on Romney as the most likely contender in the end. Wealth distribution, him being the 1%, filthy rich Republican who can't connect with the common man and isn't touched by the economic downturn. Seriously, what do you think this election will be all about: it's the economy stupid. And woohoo, all this issues all revolve around the economy, how Romney is going to deal with it, and if he deals with it in a way that helps the vast majority of the voters. This isn't even about whether he's a Mormon and magic underwear, Romney is vulnerable precisely on the main theme of this election. That won't go away after the primaries. The only thing the Democrats have to do is keep hammering on the economy, which is what the voters actually want to hear about, and then point to rich kid Romney who likes firing people and makes $10,000 bets off-handedly.

The birthers thing was certain underhanded (which is why Hillary dropped it almost immediately), but the issues with Romney go straight to the heart of America's problems right now. It tell you, Obama is, again, in the position to run a completely positive campaign. He doesn't have to go negative, the Republicans are doing that for him already, supplying enough ammunition to keep the pundits going for the rest of cycle (no doubt Romney will provide more gaffs on this himself, he simply can't seem to help presenting himself as a golden spoon kid. Cue picture of Romney with $100 dollar bills in his mouth).

And frankly, what holds for Romney holds for the rest of the field as well. Santorum with his gay bashing, Gingrich with his morals and many wives, and Huntsman with working for China. Listen, lets being realistic here, this is bonanza time for the pundits and the comedy show hosts.

(OK, OK, Cue it is then ...)

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Like to believe you don, but republicans are pretty pro at manufacturing phoney issues, fully expecting the next swift boat eqiv, especially if the economy continues to improve and Obama doesn't make any self inflicteds.

[definatelynotKKassandra]

Que picture of Romney with $100 dollar bills in his mouth

RAARRGH HULK SMASH!!!!!!

Cue = signal to start / stick for playing snooker etc
Queue = line waiting for something
Que = Don't mind him, he's from Barcelona


This is getting nearly as bad as lose/loose.

[ishkabibble]

Repubs blew their load of ammo in 2010 on Obama and his administration to win back the house and break the super-majority senate. Unless the economy takes a serious downturn (i.e. unemplyment goes back up, deflating currency, etc...) Obama will win 2012 presidency. Honestly, how much more can they do to him that they havent done already??

[Tarminic]

Repubs blew their load of ammo in 2010 on Obama and his administration to win back the house and break the super-majority senate. Unless the economy takes a serious downturn (i.e. unemplyment goes back up, deflating currency, etc...) Obama will win 2012 presidency. Honestly, how much more can they do to him that they havent done already??

Force him to endure four more years of hellish torture as President?

[Frug]

One thing I will say about the US that it seems to do well: Lots and lots of debate before an election.

By the time one of these guys is a nominee, you'll know everything about him. We don't do that up in Canada. 2 months of some guy nobody cares about and suddenly he's the prime minister.

Granted it's full of lies/misinformation/pandering/public manipulation of the worst kind. But if you have a brain and follow things, you learn what kind of people they are.

[valks]

Far too many debates and they hardly seem debates but more like a stage for sound bites

[Ralara]

Far too many debates and they hardly seem debates but more like a stage for sound bites

Yeah it's pathetic. I've tried watching some - I've seen a good 2 or 3 now, in full, but on the last one I watched, I just had to turn it off. Watching them... it's like someone has a transcript from an internet forum flame war whilst the mods are offline. Seriously expected "lol u mad bro" and shit.

[Frug]

Far too many debates and they hardly seem debates but more like a stage for sound bites

I know more about each of the GOP contenders now, before the actual election has even started, than I did about our prime minister before he was elected.

[Frug]

Far too many debates and they hardly seem debates but more like a stage for sound bites

Yeah it's pathetic. I've tried watching some - I've seen a good 2 or 3 now, in full, but on the last one I watched, I just had to turn it off. Watching them... it's like someone has a transcript from an internet forum flame war whilst the mods are offline. Seriously expected "lol u mad bro" and shit.

Also I didn't just say their debates. I said debate in general.

If you've been following things, you've learned a whole crapload about these people too. If, god forbid, one of these retards actually gets elected, I think most of us will know exactly what we're getting.

[Bartholomeus Crane]

Far too many debates and they hardly seem debates but more like a stage for sound bites

Yeah it's pathetic. I've tried watching some - I've seen a good 2 or 3 now, in full, but on the last one I watched, I just had to turn it off. Watching them... it's like someone has a transcript from an internet forum flame war whilst the mods are offline. Seriously expected "lol u mad bro" and shit.

I'm surprised to learn that you expected anything else.

Personally I'm longing for the debate that is actually what it is. Not just 3 minutes each trying to remember what the debate coach said, but an actual one, where, you know, *gasp*, the candidates actually debate each other?

But again, it seems that for an actual debate, where the politicians really have a go at each other I'll have to turn to the house of commons again ... I said it before and I say it again, most of those muppets on stage wouldn't last even 5 minutes of the barrage the British prime minister has to go through practically ever damn week!

[valks]

go you.

(frugy)

[Ralara]

Far too many debates and they hardly seem debates but more like a stage for sound bites

Yeah it's pathetic. I've tried watching some - I've seen a good 2 or 3 now, in full, but on the last one I watched, I just had to turn it off. Watching them... it's like someone has a transcript from an internet forum flame war whilst the mods are offline. Seriously expected "lol u mad bro" and shit.

Also I didn't just say their debates. I said debate in general.

Oh, most political debates are pretty stupid since they're mostly sound bites and flaming and not actual proper debates ... just that these recent republican ones have had me laughing. Laughing out of a sense of... erm, ok, so you know when someone gets shot with a cancer or stabbed with an aneurism or something and they act all shocked and then burst out laughing whilst looking at the wound and then fall backwards, dead, like in the movies and stuff? That's the kind of laughter I had. Because:

If, god forbid, one of these retards actually gets elected

It's a possibility that one of these people will become the most powerful person on this planet.

Just let that sink in.

[Herschel Yamamoto]

It's a possibility that one of these people will become the most powerful person on this planet.

Just let that sink in.

The world has survived Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, and Kennedy in the big chair. Romney seems less scary than at least half of those.

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Apparently New Hampshire had record turnout... 248k turned out for the primaries.

[Frug]

It's a possibility that one of these people will become the most powerful person on this planet.

Just let that sink in.

I believe such an event would affect me even more than you. I'm quite aware it would likely mean an upheaval of my quality of life.

That doesn't stop me from conceding that there are pros to the rampant electoral fervor that Americans are so good at. Likely it's primarily a result of the massive amounts of money involved, which is unfortunate.

[Frug]

The world has survived Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, and Kennedy in the big chair. Romney seems less scary than at least half of those.

You really have no idea what people around you think, do you? Do you, like, project your slanted viewpoint onto other people and think they believe it?