Meet the next President of the United States

[Qui Shon]

If you were to speak to a single person with a vagina between their legs

Yeah, bitches like to complain, what else is new

[Don Rumata]

Romney should be trying to bury this whole tax-return story in summer. Get whatever he is hiding there over and done with by the time Tampa rolls around. So that if the Obama camp won't let it go, come September the voters will be rolling their eyes at the Democrats instead, no matter how big the 'secret' is. Romney has the money to pull that off. But I actually doubt he'll do that. Because Romney is so out-of-touch, and basically so bad at politics at this level, that he'll just stick arrogantly to his guns: "I don't have to show my tax-returns to these little people!"

I don't think Romney can afford to release his tax returns. I think Obama campaign knows what's in there, that's why they hammering him on it. The consensus is that he hasn't paid ANY taxes for at least one year. If he releases that, not only Romney goes down, he takes the whole Republican party down with him and the whole "reduce taxes to improve economy" idiocy. Their economical platform will be utterly destroyed.

I think Obama campaign know what they are doing. They've been preparing to run against Romney for four years (that's he reason why Obamacare is direct copy of Romneycare, they wanted to completely neutralize him on that issue). What's going on now is targeted toward pundits and to put Romney on the defensive. It's like artillery bombardment before main attack. The stuff aimed toward the regular voters will start in September. Here is just a preview, this time from DNC:

[Pattern]

The consensus is that he hasn't paid ANY taxes for at least one year.

Wat?

[Rudolf Miller]

The consensus is that he hasn't paid ANY taxes for at least one year.

Wat?

Hilarious if true but likely not true.

[lubica]

The consensus is that he hasn't paid ANY taxes for at least one year.

Wat?

Hilarious if true but likely not true.

Rumour has it, it was in 2009 actually, don't ask me where that comes from, but its mentioned in a couple of recent Huffpost articles too.

[walrus]

http://scissorsheldon.com/

[punkboy101]

Didn't watch it all, the first 5 minutes was enough

[Phrixus Zephyr]

[erichkknaar]

Didn't watch it all, the first 5 minutes was enough

Jesus Christ. I just skimmed through that. It comes off like some David Icke fanfic.

[Pattern]

Meanwhile:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...20718?irpc=932

sent from a fone

[Don Rumata]

The consensus is that he hasn't paid ANY taxes for at least one year.

Wat?

Hilarious if true but likely not true.

Rumour has it, it was in 2009 actually, don't ask me where that comes from, but its mentioned in a couple of recent Huffpost articles too.

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/rom...ero-taxes-2009

Looks like he was offsetting his income from carried interest (which has ridiculously low tax rates to begin with) using "investment losses" in 2009, when stock and real estate markets tanked.

By releasing his tax returns he not only paints himself as member of 0.001%, he will also draw attention to how most of the oligarchs are gaming the system.


P.S. Note that the above link is from January, so this "zero tax" issue have been simmering for a while. Here is a more recent link, from far-left magazine, known as "Businessweek"

http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-17/whats-romney-hiding-in-his-tax-returns

[Bartholomeus Crane]

Meanwhile:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...20718?irpc=932

sent from a fone

Either part and parcel of the ongoing process within the Republican party to root out the moderates, or a portent of things to come nationally.

Either way: Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas ... the Republicans are really lining up a mass of failed states under their governance since 2010. They may buy themselves a senate in Kansas this time, but by the time those tax and spending cuts are going to really bite home, there will be a price to pay. One can only hope it will be fatal for the Republicans without too much damage done ...

[lubica]

Meanwhile:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...20718?irpc=932

sent from a fone

Either part and parcel of the ongoing process within the Republican party to root out the moderates, or a portent of things to come nationally.

Either way: Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas ... the Republicans are really lining up a mass of failed states under their governance since 2010. They may buy themselves a senate in Kansas this time, but by the time those tax and spending cuts are going to really bite home, there will be a price to pay. One can only hope it will be fatal for the Republicans without too much damage done ...

Yeah, I was just reading up on Kansas today and I kinda wondered what a contemporary Dorothy might ask of the wizard.

[Bartholomeus Crane]

The consensus is that he hasn't paid ANY taxes for at least one year.

Wat?

Hilarious if true but likely not true.

Rumour has it, it was in 2009 actually, don't ask me where that comes from, but its mentioned in a couple of recent Huffpost articles too.

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/rom...ero-taxes-2009

Looks like he was offsetting his income from carried interest (which has ridiculously low tax rates to begin with) using "investment losses" in 2009, when stock and real estate markets tanked.

By releasing his tax returns he not only paints himself as member of 0.001%, he will also draw attention to how most of the oligarchs are gaming the system.


P.S. Note that the above link is from January, so this "zero tax" issue have been simmering for a while. Here is a more recent link, from far-left magazine, known as "Businessweek"

http://mobile.businessweek.com/artic...is-tax-returns

If it is true that Romney paid zero or near zero taxes in 2009, then he can't possibly release those tax-returns. And since the Obama campaign would be out of their minds letting this go, that refusal will haunt him till November and probably cost him his election. Even if he releases the tax-returns for those years regardless, he'll be hit very hard as well. And frankly, I don't see him shake that off in time for September/November. So, he's basically in between a rock and a hard place right now. The only hope he'll have is that voters will get sick of the scandal at one point. But, seriously, since when do voters ever get sick of a scandal?

Things looking very poorly for Romney right now ... I just hope it will arc over to the rest of the Republican party as well ...

[Don Rumata]

Meanwhile:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...20718?irpc=932

sent from a fone

Either part and parcel of the ongoing process within the Republican party to root out the moderates, or a portent of things to come nationally.

Either way: Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas ... the Republicans are really lining up a mass of failed states under their governance since 2010. They may buy themselves a senate in Kansas this time, but by the time those tax and spending cuts are going to really bite home, there will be a price to pay. One can only hope it will be fatal for the Republicans without too much damage done ...

Yeah, I was just reading up on Kansas today and I kinda wondered what a contemporary Dorothy might ask of the wizard.

I am sure she would ask for a massive memorial for aborted fetuses to be built in Wichita, Kansas:

http://www.prolifememorial.com/

[Rudolf Miller]

Meanwhile:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...20718?irpc=932

sent from a fone

Either part and parcel of the ongoing process within the Republican party to root out the moderates, or a portent of things to come nationally.

Either way: Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas ... the Republicans are really lining up a mass of failed states under their governance since 2010. They may buy themselves a senate in Kansas this time, but by the time those tax and spending cuts are going to really bite home, there will be a price to pay. One can only hope it will be fatal for the Republicans without too much damage done ...

Yeah, I was just reading up on Kansas today and I kinda wondered what a contemporary Dorothy might ask of the wizard.

I am sure she would ask for a massive memorial for aborted fetuses to be built in Wichita, Kansas:

http://www.prolifememorial.com/

500,000 visitors will be attracted to the International Life Centre’ yearly.

I'd love to see their statistically derived justification for this number

[Al Simmons]

You then proceed to dismiss the real reasons people are saying that about him as if they don't matter. You pluck your own interpretation of the "basic principle" behind the gold standard nonsense, and ignore the fact that saying the US should go back to the gold standard is batshit crazy. You completely ignore the valid concern that an individual who is so detached from reality as to say the things that he says is not fit to run the country. .

Personally I think that racking up a national debt of trillions of dollars is batshit crazy. $15 trillion dollars in debt, 104% of the GDP. $140,000 per taxpayer. No-one believes that can be paid off, so they won't even try. What happens when the creditors start asking for their money back?

On a gold standard it's harder to rack up quite such an astronomical debt. It's not such a crazy idea. What's crazy is having an economy based largely on stockbrokers gambling everything who then apparently you have to bail out when it all fucks up. And then the year after they fuck up they all give themselves record bonuses. Now yes, at this point it would be very hard to backtrack all this shit and even start going back to something more sensible, but it's not impossible. There just isn't the will for it, they would rather not make any hard decisions, kick the bucket down the road and hope that the next crash comes on a different president's watch so he can get the blame.

[F*** My Aunt Rita]

You then proceed to dismiss the real reasons people are saying that about him as if they don't matter. You pluck your own interpretation of the "basic principle" behind the gold standard nonsense, and ignore the fact that saying the US should go back to the gold standard is batshit crazy. You completely ignore the valid concern that an individual who is so detached from reality as to say the things that he says is not fit to run the country. .

Personally I think that racking up a national debt of trillions of dollars is batshit crazy. $15 trillion dollars in debt, 104% of the GDP. $140,000 per taxpayer. No-one believes that can be paid off, so they won't even try. What happens when the creditors start asking for their money back?

On a gold standard it's harder to rack up quite such an astronomical debt. It's not such a crazy idea. What's crazy is having an economy based largely on stockbrokers gambling everything who then apparently you have to bail out when it all fucks up. And then the year after they fuck up they all give themselves record bonuses. Now yes, at this point it would be very hard to backtrack all this shit and even start going back to something more sensible, but it's not impossible. There just isn't the will for it, they would rather not make any hard decisions, kick the bucket down the road and hope that the next crash comes on a different president's watch so he can get the blame.

Stop trolling right fucking now.

[Al Simmons]

Not trolling.

[zergl]

Not trolling.

This is so hard to tell in this thread here.