Meet the next President of the United States

[F*** My Aunt Rita]

We are trying to take the gop back to the roots of small government and civil liberties circa 1952 platform.

I'm sorry, what?

[Fortior]

We are trying to take the gop back to the roots of small government and civil liberties circa 1952 platform.

small government and civil liberties circa 1952 platform.

civil liberties circa 1952

[erichkknaar]

You mean the platform where the GOP accused the Dems of instituting National Socialism and fucking up WWII?

Also, where they want the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and support strong unions?

[Tellenta]

You mean the platform where the GOP accused the Dems of instituting National Socialism and fucking up WWII?

Also, where they want the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and support strong unions?

I think he just wants it to be ok to tell black people to sit in the back of the bus, stay out of white people only shops, and segregate everything from water fountains to neighborhoods.

Takon, man seriously pay the fuck attention to what you are saying. There is a reason why people view the republican party and their hangers on as the racist party. You seem to be obliviously or intentionally showing why that is.

[marcus xero]

http://www.dailypaul.com/244043/yaho...-vote#comments

Four years after Barack Obama won the support of 66 percent of voters aged 18 to 29, Republicans are working on a fresh approach to bring younger voters and candidates into the fold, using a coalition of traditional campaign organizations, super PACs, nonprofit advocacy groups and policy-based think tanks.

And even Republicans organizing these efforts admit it's going to take some work.

Two groups, the Young Guns Action Fund and Maverick PAC—the latter was co-founded by George P. Bush, nephew of former President George W. Bush and son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush—will focus on finding young Republican political talent and supporting them with money. The two organizations announced a strategic partnership Tuesday that organizers hope will increase engagement with voters that were lost to Obama in 2008. One short-term goal, of course, is to narrow the enthusiasm gap between young Republicans and Democrats, but ultimately, they're looking far beyond the next election.

"The relationship is about developing something for the long-term that looks past just this November," YG Action Fund President John Murray told reporters during a breakfast meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday. "By the midterms in 2014, perhaps we've made a little more progress; by the next presidential we've made some more progress, and [we've gained] ... the capacity to build that over time because it's going to take time."

Here's how the partnership will work: The YG Action fund, a super PAC, will scour the country looking for new young Republican House and Senate candidates. (The group is similar to, but independent from, the National Republican Congressional Committee's "Young Guns" program.) The Action fund will support these new GOP candidates and independently bolster their campaigns. Meanwhile, MavPAC will build its own base of young, new donors and fundraising bundlers, whom they plan to connect with the new recruits. The two groups will share data based on the information they gather from new supporters. They plan to spend $5 million this election cycle on the joint project.

YG Action Fund will recruit the pilots and cover the air war, while MavPAC rallies the boots on the ground.

Organizers say they hope to make some headway with younger voters this cycle, but they aren't promising a Republican revolution by November.

"We want to manage expectations," said MavPac co-founder Bush. "We don't want to say it's going to swing 180 degrees to the other side. I think it's worth the effort. I think to leave a complete demographic group like this uncontested is a mistake for the Republican Party."

To reach the goal, MavPAC and YG Action Fund leaders both pointed to Obama's success four years ago, and how he was able to "capture the imagination" of young people in his speeches. Now, they say, many of those same voters have graduated from college, are struggling to find work and are disappointed. Republicans plan to capitalize off that frustration.

"I am not here to say that there's some magic wand we're going to wave and all these voters are going to suddenly vote Republican," Murray said. "I think what we recognize is that there's a unique moment in time where there's a real choice being presented in this country, and many of these voters, once you articulate that voice, tend to say, 'You know, I want this freedom and opportunity, and I'm concerned about it.'"

MavPAC and YG Action aren't the only groups focused on shoring up the Republican base of young voters this cycle. American Crossroads, a group co-founded by Republican operatives Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie, announced the formation of Crossroads Generation earlier this year. In 2010, conservative operatives launched Generation Opportunity, which conducts nationwide voter registration drives targeting the younger set. Free from the restrictions of campaign finance laws, those independent groups will work to amplify the efforts of traditional party organizations.

Said YG Action Fund spokesman Brad Dayspring: "There's an opportunity to capture the imagination of those voters."

GOP establishment status: STILL FUCKING RETARDED.

Seriously, they come up with this plan to draw in the youth vote WHEN RON PAUL ALREADY DID THE WORK FOR THEM!

Ron Paul has singlehandedly gotten more people of all ages and other demographic terms involved in the GOP process than ANY other GOP candidate in recent history, but oh no he's unelectable.

On top of that the MASS GOP kicked out an 18 year old delegate who was duly elected, way to bring in the youth vote.

Ehhh, they kicked out 17 of those delegates, mostly young Republicans in Mass. Let's face it, it is all bullshit. The GOP wants the young votes, not the young voters. There's no room for their opinions or views, but there sure is for their 'support'. Which, basically, holds true for Ron Paul.

So tell me, why is he still in the GOP? He, and his massive share of Republican leaning young voters are simply not wanted. So why still trying to desperately cling onto these dinosaurs? FFS, start your own party already!

The thought has gone through all of our heads.

It all comes back to brand recognition and the two party charade that has been constant for quite some time.

People assume all third party cannot win, and in the case of the existing parties, C L etc , It's true because the leadership of those parties is completely incompetent and in most counties doesn't exist.

We are trying to take the gop back to the roots of small government and civil liberties circa 1952 platform.

Some states have had success throwing out the old guard, others get the Mass treatment. The Mass gop is a giant joke anyways, but they do have influence.

Believe me, if all the parties got their share of attention from an independent media I would love founding a new party. We certainly have the numbers and structure.

And no, Ron Paul isn't the reason Ron Paul can't get elected. There is a conscious effort to make people think he is anti American and dangerous, when he advocates for sound money and peace. Look at the questions and follow-ups during 2008. It's absolutely amazing how they got people to believe that being pro peace could kill more people.

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To be frank, I admire ron paul's stance on "Don't torture or spy on your own citizens, stupid" and his view of "If we weren't such dicks everywhere, people wouldnt be so mean."

However, I view his monetary policy to be a complete disaster. Insofar as I beleived he would destroy the country's economy and along with it any credibility the former unrelated views rightly deserve, I opted to stay the hell away from him.

Too bad too. We are still waiting for someone else willing to talk sense on defence spending and civil liberties issues.

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To be frank, I admire ron paul's stance on "Don't torture or spy on your own citizens, stupid" and his view of "If we weren't such dicks everywhere, people wouldnt be so mean."

However, I view his monetary policy to be a complete disaster. Insofar as I beleived he would destroy the country's economy and along with it any credibility the former unrelated views rightly deserve, I opted to stay the hell away from him.

Too bad too. We are still waiting for someone else willing to talk sense on defence spending and civil liberties issues.

[Vortex]

The thought has gone through all of our heads.

It all comes back to brand recognition and the two party charade that has been constant for quite some time.

People assume all third party cannot win, and in the case of the existing parties, C L etc , It's true because the leadership of those parties is completely incompetent and in most counties doesn't exist.

We are trying to take the gop back to the roots of small government and civil liberties circa 1952 platform.

Some states have had success throwing out the old guard, others get the Mass treatment. The Mass gop is a giant joke anyways, but they do have influence.

Believe me, if all the parties got their share of attention from an independent media I would love founding a new party. We certainly have the numbers and structure.

And no, Ron Paul isn't the reason Ron Paul can't get elected. There is a conscious effort to make people think he is anti American and dangerous, when he advocates for sound money and peace. Look at the questions and follow-ups during 2008. It's absolutely amazing how they got people to believe that being pro peace could kill more people.

People don't assume a third party cannot win, it is physically impossible for a third party to win any major victory due to the way the US election system is set up. The winner-take-all system used ensures that only two parties will ever be viable, as any half-way decent showing third party would just steal votes from its next-nearest ideological partner, easily guaranteeing the other first-tier party the win (this happens fairly often throughout history, and an independent Ron Paul ticket would severely harm the GOP in 2012). The only time a new major party comes into the existence in the US is when a major party splits and has a phoenix-like rebirth under a new branding (has happened a few times now).

The election laws for the presidency are even worse, as the very nature of the electoral college absolutely guarantees that only 2 parties will ever be seriously represented. Really, the presidential race is kind of a farce anyways because electors can vote however they want - they are not bound to following the popular vote if they don't to. This little factoid is what made the Bush V Gore SCOTUS ruling so damaging - Florida is constitutionally allowed to run its election however the fuck it wants, and its electors can vote however the fuck they want regardless of the votes or how they were counted. But that's a bit off topic (though it should be noted that states themselves make it difficult for third parties to even get on the polls, yet another institutional obstacle against their success).

Oh I almost forget to mention gerrymandering, yet another institutional roadblock to a third party success in elections. Really they face serious obstacles at every step in the election process. That anybody not flying an R or D gets into office is a minor miracle by itself.

Now you do see the occasional 3rd party house member, and very rarely a third party senator, but that's it. You're talking about a handful of votes in the house, and 1 or 2 in the senate. That's nothing. It doesn't matter that they exist (with the slight possible exception of razor-tight senate cloture votes), as they don't have enough political capital to push any kind of real change.

Ron Paul would be a disaster as president, mostly because it would just result in 4 years of complete deadlock. I respect the man for truly standing up for what he believes, and being relatively consistent, but honestly alone doesn't make a good president. He could get some stuff through via executive order / leader of the armed forces, but that would be the extent of his four years in office, and leave a very weird race to pick up the pieces in the following election. Given how the GOP trashtalks anybody trying to reduce the armed forces budget, I imagine withdrawing and closing most overseas bases would result in a serious attempt at impeachment for treason (assuming GOP control of congress).

So yea, third parties stand no chance and Ron Paul would be an (amusing) disaster as president. Not sure why this is news, but whatever.

[Frug]

Haha, you idiots are still arguing with that obvious troll.

I'm going to start +repping him because you people are seriously dumb.

[Zeekar]

Haha, you idiots are still arguing with that obvious troll.

I'm going to start +repping him because you people are seriously dumb.

You give him too much credit.

[Takon Orlani]

1952 GOP platform excerpt:

Civil Rights

We condemn bigots who inject class, racial and religious prejudice into public and political matters. Bigotry is un-American and a danger to the Republic.

We deplore the duplicity and insincerity of the Party in power in racial and religious matters. Although they have been in office as a Majority Party for many years, they have not kept nor do they intend to keep their promises.

The Republican Party will not mislead, exploit or attempt to confuse minority groups for political purposes. All American citizens are entitled to full, impartial enforcement of Federal laws relating to their civil rights.

We believe that it is the primary responsibility of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions, and this power, reserved to the states, is essential to the maintenance of our Federal Republic. However, we believe that the Federal Government should take supplemental action within its constitutional jurisdiction to oppose discrimination against race, religion or national origin.

We will prove our good faith by:

Appointing qualified persons, without distinction of race, religion or national origin, to responsible positions in the Government.

Federal action toward the elimination of lynching.

Federal action toward the elimination of poll taxes as a prerequisite to voting.

Appropriate action to end segregation in the District of Columbia.

Enacting Federal legislation to further just and equitable treatment in the area of discriminatory employment practices. Federal action should not duplicate state efforts to end such practices; should not set up another huge bureaucracy.

In its entirety its not a perfect platform, lots of building up the military to combat communism etc.

But it reads better than what we have now.

Censorship

We pledge not to infringe by censorship or gag-order the right of a free people to know what their Government is doing.

Equal Rights

We recommend to Congress the submission of a Constitutional Amendment providing equal rights for men and women.

We favor legislation assuring equal pay for equal work regardless of sex.

Statehood

We favor immediate statehood for Hawaii.

We favor statehood for Alaska under an equitable enabling act.

We favor eventual statehood for Puerto Rico.

District of Columbia

We favor self-government and national suffrage for the residents of the Nation's Capital.

Natural Resources

We vigorously advocate a full and orderly program for the development and conservation of our natural resources.

We deplore the policies of the present Administration which allow special premiums to foreign producers of minerals available in the United States. We favor reasonable depletion allowances, defense procurement policies, synthetic fuels research, and public land policies, including good-faith administration of our mining laws, which will encourage exploration and development of our mineral resources consistent with our growing industrial and defense needs.

We favor stockpiling of strategic and critical raw materials and special premium incentives for their domestic exploration and development.

We favor restoration to the States of their rights to all lands and resources beneath navigable inland and offshore waters within their historic boundaries.

We favor protection of our fisheries by domestic regulation and treaties, including safeguards against unfair foreign competition.

Pro-union shocker

To the Working Man:

The right to quit his job at any time.

The right to take part in legal union activities.

The right to remain in his union so long as he pays his dues.

The right to protection against unfair practices by either employer or union officials.

The right to political activity of his own choice and freedom to contribute thereto.

The right to a job without first joining a union.

The right to a secret ballot in any election concerned with his livelihood.

The right to protection from personal financial responsibility in damage cases against his union.

To the Labor Unions:

The right to establish "union shop" contracts by agreement with management.

The right to strike.

The right to free collective bargaining.

The right to protection from rival unions during the life of union contracts.

The right to assurance from employers that they will bargain only with certified unions as a protection against unfair labor practices.

We urge the adoption of such amendments to the Taft-Hartley Act as time and experience show to be desirable, and which further protect the rights of labor, management and the public.

We condemn the President's seizure of plants and industries to force the settlement of labor disputes by claims of inherent Constitutional powers.

Like I said. Not perfect.

[Zeekar]

Haha, you idiots are still arguing with that obvious troll.

I'm going to start +repping him because you people are seriously dumb.

You give him too much credit.

I told you, you give him too much credit.

[Frug]

Haha, you idiots are still arguing with that obvious troll.

I'm going to start +repping him because you people are seriously dumb.

You give him too much credit.

I told you, you give him too much credit.

Heh. I dunno, he's been doing a good job of acting like nothing he's insisted on has proven to be a farce.

Also in all fairness the quotes from the GOP platform, if real, and not blatantly contradicted by other quotes, are great quotes because the party doesn't resemble them at all any more.

Those quotes are the kind of romanticized image of the GOP someone like Herschel or Keyorthe would probably argue is the heart of the party. It would be nice if it was.

[F*** My Aunt Rita]

When I think of the early 50's republican party I recall red scares, military fuck-yeah'isms, and John Birch Society.

[Tellenta]

When I think of the early 50's republican party I recall red scares, military fuck-yeah'isms, and John Birch Society.

Don't forget McCarthy

[F*** My Aunt Rita]

When I think of the early 50's republican party I recall red scares, military fuck-yeah'isms, and John Birch Society.

Don't forget McCarthy

"red scares"

McCarthy has just become the more famous scare monger. The post war republican party reason for existence was the party who will protect america from the "communists". Many politicians built their careers on that shit, imo the most famous of these douches is Richard Nixon.

[Takon Orlani]

When I think of the early 50's republican party I recall red scares, military fuck-yeah'isms, and John Birch Society.

Don't forget McCarthy

"red scares"

McCarthy has just become the more famous scare monger. The post war republican party reason for existence was the party who will protect america from the "communists". Many politicians built their careers on that shit, imo the most famous of these douches is Richard Nixon.

The red scare mentality carries on today

Its now the brown towelhead scare.

[Zeekar]

When I think of the early 50's republican party I recall red scares, military fuck-yeah'isms, and John Birch Society.

Don't forget McCarthy

"red scares"

McCarthy has just become the more famous scare monger. The post war republican party reason for existence was the party who will protect america from the "communists". Many politicians built their careers on that shit, imo the most famous of these douches is Richard Nixon.

The red scare mentality carries on today

Its now the brown towelhead scare.

Socialism scare.

[Takon Orlani]

When I think of the early 50's republican party I recall red scares, military fuck-yeah'isms, and John Birch Society.

Don't forget McCarthy

"red scares"

McCarthy has just become the more famous scare monger. The post war republican party reason for existence was the party who will protect america from the "communists". Many politicians built their careers on that shit, imo the most famous of these douches is Richard Nixon.

The red scare mentality carries on today

Its now the brown towelhead scare.

Socialism scare.

A cleverly disguised authoritarian plan to take over everything:
Make people scared of government takeover of the private sector, call it socialism
Design the exact same system and keep calling it free-market capitalism.

[Andrea Griffin]

So, I saw this link to I Side With, one of those vote matching things. What the hell, I have a few minutes to kill between meetings.

Apparently I'm a 96% match with Ron Paul.

Except... Ron Paul is a loony. So...

...O shit. Does that mean... Oh dear god no. I knew that someday this day would come...

Asylum, here I come... Might as well admit myself before I hurt someone.