That's the entire show, should be in there somewhere.
That's the entire show, should be in there somewhere.
Edit: beaten by 90 seconds
I think SCOTUS is perceived to have 'reputation' issues, mostly because of Citizens United. But, it is important to remember that SCOTUS didn't rule that the states should throw out all election laws about money in politics. The states did that themselves, using the SCOTUS verdict as a convenient reason. Which it wasn't. In fact, one state didn't do that (or all of it at the least): Montana. Ofcourse the state of Montana is now challenged in court over that, but it remains to be seen if they'll lose that case. Other states could have gone the same way.
But ofcourse, on both sides, it is easy to lay the blame on a 'polarised' SCOTUS.
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Atul Gawande's latest is pretty good.
They must want to make the effort, however. That’s a key factor. The major social advances of the past three centuries have required widening our sphere of moral inclusion. During the nineteenth century, for instance, most American leaders believed in a right to vote—but not in extending it to women and black people. Likewise, most American leaders, regardless of their politics, believe people’s health-care needs should be met; they’ve sought to insure that soldiers, the elderly, the disabled, and children, not to mention themselves, have access to good care. But many draw their circle of concern narrowly; they continue to resist the idea that people without adequate insurance are anything like these deserving others.
And so the fate of the uninsured remains embattled—vulnerable, in particular, to the maneuvering for political control. The partisan desire to deny the President success remains powerful. Many levers of obstruction remain; many hands will be reaching for them.
For all that, the Court’s ruling keeps alive the prospect that our society will expand its circle of moral concern to include the millions who now lack insurance. Beneath the intricacies of the Affordable Care Act lies a simple truth. We are all born frail and mortal—and, over the course of our lives, we all need health care. Americans are on our way to recognizing this. If we actually do—now, that would be wicked.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162...alth-care-law/(CBS News) Chief Justice John Roberts initially sided with the Supreme Court's four conservative justices to strike down the heart of President Obama's health care reform law, the Affordable Care Act, but later changed his position and formed an alliance with liberals to uphold the bulk of the law, according to two sources with specific knowledge of the deliberations.
Roberts then withstood a month-long, desperate campaign to bring him back to his original position, the sources said. Ironically, Justice Anthony Kennedy - believed by many conservatives to be the justice most likely to defect and vote for the law - led the effort to try to bring Roberts back to the fold.
"He was relentless," one source said of Kennedy's efforts. "He was very engaged in this."
But this time, Roberts held firm. And so the conservatives handed him their own message which, as one justice put it, essentially translated into, "You're on your own."
The conservatives refused to join any aspect of his opinion, including sections with which they agreed, such as his analysis imposing limits on Congress' power under the Commerce Clause, the sources said.
Instead, the four joined forces and crafted a highly unusual, unsigned joint dissent. They deliberately ignored Roberts' decision, the sources said, as if they were no longer even willing to engage with him in debate.
I love politics. "I agree with you but waaah I'm going to go against you just to spite you, or because you are XYZ"
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Except in the cases he was talking about, blame should have been pretty squarely on the Republican's shoulders. Whenever the Republicans were fuckin up, he (and many others) pretend to be bipartisan and say "oh I'm a reasonable person that blames BOTH parties" even though the other party had nothing to do with it, and they're just trying to drag the Dems down with them. Rubio didn't say ANYTHING was JUST the fault of the Republicans.
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edit: god damn Fareed needs to get with the times and post his shows on the internet, I really don't want to go downstairs to my DVR to check this.
He did the same thing on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart last week. Exactly the same turn of phrase. Of course Stewart just let him skate on it because hes not a serious interviewer.
Ofcourse, the Daily Show isn't the show for tough interviews, it is supposed to be satirical and funny, and Stewart, missed opportunities and all, most of the times, drags up some zingers, even if he can't break the bubble.
But yes, Republicans are masters at sharing the blame when they have fucked it up, and equally masters at pointing to the Democrats to blame everything on them. It is almost interesting to see how they vacillate between those two positions. It must also be quite frustrating for an interviewer, because they're also masters at the plain old lie, and will use it at any point to come back to the first two options. So, even when the interviewer has got its facts straight and available, the Republicans just brush it off as 'untrue' (or unamerican). I do feel sorry for Rachel Maddow actually, with her nerd streak for numbers, graphs, figures, and facts.
But most interviews with most Republicans end up going something like this:
* How about this? What happened there?
- Yes, a clear example of how government is the problem. Both Republicans and Democrats share the blame on that.
* But certainly this can't be blamed on the Democrats?
- No there clearly the Democrats are to blame. Here's my contorted view from inside the bubble of why that is the case.
* But clearly that is just not the case!
- Yes it is, you don't think it is because you've been lied to by the Democrats. My Republican ideology trumps all your little facts.
Marco Rubio is a smooth talker, but this is exactly what he, and the other Republicans do all the time. Marco Rubio is just better at it than most.
Some comments are amazing. (from here: http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-so...er-challenged/ )
"FLIPPER" ROBERTS, THE GLOBALIST MOLE ON OUR U.S. SUPREME COURT, WON'T DO ANYYTHING TO STOP CONTINUING GLOBALIST CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS.
Wasn't the obscure "jurist" Roberts proposed as U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice by pathetic RINO globalist Johnny "Build the Dang FEMA Concentration Camp Fences" McAmnesty (McCain)'s pathetic RINO globalist campaign manager "Sergeant" Schultz to pathetic RINO globalist W(ar) Son-of-a-Bush? Now it all comes clear as the sellout Roberts invents a new "tax" not authorized by the Constitution to save CommieCare Healthcare DEform to line the pockets of the "crony capitalism" (NAZI) system to destroy our democracy and free market capitalism prosperity. Look for Flipper to join in the future with the four Constitution-hating Marxists that have infiltrated OUR Court to "find" further destruction of the Constitution "authorized" by the New World Order/UN Dictatorship/One World Government "law" like the upcoming North American Union and Security and Prosperity Partnership "agreements," and UN "treaties" like the Law of the Sea Treaty and Agenda 21! Think a fake social security number will bother him?
All of these globalist traitors should be given Nuremberg-style treason trials, then thrown into the FEMA concentration camps they built for us. TYRANNY COMES IN BLACK ROBES, TOO. TREASON, FLIPPER!!!
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. - Blaise Pascal, Pensées, 277
I blame this on lazy, ignorant twats.
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If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.