Meet the next President of the United States

[Frug]

This isn't Twitter.

Touche.

On topic, I would suggest Canada is more diverse and a better argument than the UK if you want to go that route. As a Canadian with european background, Lubica is describing things pretty accurately for what it's like in a few countries there. Of course there is religious and ethnic violence, but the populations are more homogeneous and it's a lot easier to point out a black guy in a crowd of white people than it is to point out a catholic in a crowd of protestants. I guess that didn't stop germany from picking out their jews... but come on, some europeans can be astoundingly racist, partially because they just ain't used to foreigners.

Anyway Canada has more immigration and more multiculturalism than the US, and less racism. The blame game doesn't go onto the immigrants because we're all immigrants. It sounds like a sad excuse to blame higher immigration and multiculturalism for immature behavior or a shitty culture of ignorance and blame.

[Tellenta]

Are you saying Europe doesn't have it's fair share of issues?

If by "fair share of issues" you mean "brown people", then sure...

You're posts are so bad even the leaps into absurdism aren't entertaining.

Your. YOUR posts. As opposed to "you're an idiot".

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Considering 87% of the UK as of 2009 is white that claim is kinda entertaining.

If you look at the raw percentage of non-whites, then the US will obviously have more.

But if you look at the number of different cultures that the population comes from, then it will be a lot closer.

If you want to parse that way it will be a lot more subjective and we'd have to break all races in the US and the UK into different 'tribes' for each minor or major cultural shift. In all an untenable claim for either side of the discussion as the time spent doing research demands someone giving us a grant and multiple years to a decade of on site research.

I'm going with no you on this.

[Zeekar]

This isn't Twitter.

Touche.

On topic, I would suggest Canada is more diverse and a better argument than the UK if you want to go that route. As a Canadian with european background, Lubica is describing things pretty accurately for what it's like in a few countries there. Of course there is religious and ethnic violence, but the populations are more homogeneous and it's a lot easier to point out a black guy in a crowd of white people than it is to point out a catholic in a crowd of protestants. I guess that didn't stop germany from picking out their jews... but come on, some europeans can be astoundingly racist, partially because they just ain't used to foreigners.

Anyway Canada has more immigration and more multiculturalism than the US, and less racism. The blame game doesn't go onto the immigrants because we're all immigrants. It sounds like a sad excuse to blame higher immigration and multiculturalism for immature behavior or a shitty culture of ignorance and blame.

Yes and american people are all natives there, wait what? USA has a higher degree of racism because they have a large badly educated population.

[Tarminic]

This isn't Twitter.

Touche.

On topic, I would suggest Canada is more diverse and a better argument than the UK if you want to go that route. As a Canadian with european background, Lubica is describing things pretty accurately for what it's like in a few countries there. Of course there is religious and ethnic violence, but the populations are more homogeneous and it's a lot easier to point out a black guy in a crowd of white people than it is to point out a catholic in a crowd of protestants. I guess that didn't stop germany from picking out their jews... but come on, some europeans can be astoundingly racist, partially because they just ain't used to foreigners.

Anyway Canada has more immigration and more multiculturalism than the US, and less racism. The blame game doesn't go onto the immigrants because we're all immigrants. It sounds like a sad excuse to blame higher immigration and multiculturalism for immature behavior or a shitty culture of ignorance and blame.

Yes and american people are all natives there, wait what? USA has a higher degree of racism because they have a large badly educated population.

Poorly educated population.

[Rudolf Miller]

WSJ: Obama and Romney in a 'dead heat'

[Zeekar]

This isn't Twitter.

Touche.

On topic, I would suggest Canada is more diverse and a better argument than the UK if you want to go that route. As a Canadian with european background, Lubica is describing things pretty accurately for what it's like in a few countries there. Of course there is religious and ethnic violence, but the populations are more homogeneous and it's a lot easier to point out a black guy in a crowd of white people than it is to point out a catholic in a crowd of protestants. I guess that didn't stop germany from picking out their jews... but come on, some europeans can be astoundingly racist, partially because they just ain't used to foreigners.

Anyway Canada has more immigration and more multiculturalism than the US, and less racism. The blame game doesn't go onto the immigrants because we're all immigrants. It sounds like a sad excuse to blame higher immigration and multiculturalism for immature behavior or a shitty culture of ignorance and blame.

Yes and american people are all natives there, wait what? USA has a higher degree of racism because they have a large badly educated population.

Poorly educated population.

Couldn't remember the word, tnx.

Also insert the excuse of having the English language as my third language etc...

[Don Rumata]

WSJ: Obama and Romney in a 'dead heat'

This is typical pattern that repeats itself every time. All the polls are tighten in the Summer as majority of people switch into vacation mode. For the next three months all organisations will be polling bunch of white racists who still have landlines and unable to get off the couch, while political shows will try to keep ratings by creating "narrative" around those numbers.

Expect Republicans to manufacture another shitfest similar to "debt ceiling" comedy last year, to take advantage of skewed Summer poll numbers.

[Fitzy]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

[Tellenta]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

So he's saying the UK is less racist because they would rather kill each other?

[Fitzy]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

So he's saying the UK is less racist because they would rather kill each other?

Sure why not.

[Tellenta]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

So he's saying the UK is less racist because they would rather kill each other?

Sure why not.

Works for me. Glad someone clarified this.

[lubica]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

So he's saying the UK is less racist because they would rather kill each other?

Sure why not.

Works for me. Glad someone clarified this.

I think he meant that they're less racist, because they're all murderous chavs regardless of the colour of their enemies or their own.

[Fitzy]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

So he's saying the UK is less racist because they would rather kill each other?

Sure why not.

Works for me. Glad someone clarified this.

I think he meant that they're less racist, because they're all murderous chavs regardless of the colour of their enemies or their own.

Exactly. We're making good progress here.

[walrus]

Hey Don, quick question: are you sticking with the claim that the UK is more diverse than America, despite being significantly more homogeneous than America? Just curious.

Yeah, sorry, I did not realize that all white people are exactly alike.

Well, there is White Hispanic but since England basically doesn't have any of those.......

The UK is only a little larger than the smallest state in Australia yet it contains four seperate large groupings of white people who are predisposed towards killing each other. See: Bloody Sunday.

That's what Dom is talking about. (I would think).

The size of the country is irrelevant, population density however.

If you shove more people into a room, the chances for a brawl increases.

The UK is about as large as the smallest australian state, with almost three times as many citizens as the entire nation.

/cpt obvious

[Lallante]

This thread is literally chocolate teapot

[Sparq]

This thread is literally chocolate teapot

Have you measured the thickness of its walls?

[Rudolf Miller]

Have some FHC

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestheadlines

Hawaii Verifies Obama Birth Records to Arizona

Hawaii verified to Arizona that it has President Barack Obama's birth certificate, a Hawaii state official said late Tuesday night.

The verification ends a two-month tussle between the two states over the president's birth records, and clears the way for Mr. Obama's name to be on Arizona's November ballot.

"The matter has been resolved," said Joshua A. Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general in an email statement. Mr. Wisch said Hawaii sent the state an email verification, which will be followed by a hard copy.

Hawaii officials "have complied with the request and I consider the matter closed," Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said in a written statement Wednesday morning.

Mr. Bennett had requested the state verify it has Mr. Obama's birth certificate in its files after he said he received more than 1,200 emails from constituents demanding he check into the record.

In a radio interview last week, Mr. Bennett said it was possible that Mr. Obama wouldn't appear on the ballot unless Hawaii verified it had the president's birth record.

Arizona Democrats said Mr. Bennett's fight with Hawaii over the records was a calculated move to capture right-wing support in the state as he contemplates a run for governor.

Mr. Bennett has denied that, and said he was merely responding to constituent demands. Mr. Bennett repeatedly said he isn't a "birther," referring to a small movement of people who believe that Mr. Obama wasn't born in the U.S and therefore occupying the White House illegally. The U.S. Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen.

Mr. Bennett said thousands of Arizona voters began pressing him on the issue after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said in March that Mr. Obama's birth certificate might be a forgery. Mr. Arpaio, who is under fire from the federal government for alleged civil-rights abuses of Latino residents and prisoners in his jail system, launched an investigation into the birth certificate last year.

Hawaii has repeatedly confirmed that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii and provides documentation on its website. Mr. Obama posted his long-form birth certificate online last year.

Hawaii refused to comply with Mr. Bennett's request at first, saying he had failed to comply with state law that requires Mr. Bennett to prove he has the legal authority to seek the verification. The state said Mr. Bennett had recently provided information that satisfied Hawaii's requirement.

Proceed to the comments section for epic lulz

[Tellenta]

Wow did a republican actually say that he doesn't support the birthers?

Never thought I'd see the day.

[walrus]

Have some FHC

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestheadlines

Hawaii Verifies Obama Birth Records to Arizona

Hawaii verified to Arizona that it has President Barack Obama's birth certificate, a Hawaii state official said late Tuesday night.

The verification ends a two-month tussle between the two states over the president's birth records, and clears the way for Mr. Obama's name to be on Arizona's November ballot.

"The matter has been resolved," said Joshua A. Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general in an email statement. Mr. Wisch said Hawaii sent the state an email verification, which will be followed by a hard copy.

Hawaii officials "have complied with the request and I consider the matter closed," Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said in a written statement Wednesday morning.

Mr. Bennett had requested the state verify it has Mr. Obama's birth certificate in its files after he said he received more than 1,200 emails from constituents demanding he check into the record.

In a radio interview last week, Mr. Bennett said it was possible that Mr. Obama wouldn't appear on the ballot unless Hawaii verified it had the president's birth record.

Arizona Democrats said Mr. Bennett's fight with Hawaii over the records was a calculated move to capture right-wing support in the state as he contemplates a run for governor.

Mr. Bennett has denied that, and said he was merely responding to constituent demands. Mr. Bennett repeatedly said he isn't a "birther," referring to a small movement of people who believe that Mr. Obama wasn't born in the U.S and therefore occupying the White House illegally. The U.S. Constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen.

Mr. Bennett said thousands of Arizona voters began pressing him on the issue after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said in March that Mr. Obama's birth certificate might be a forgery. Mr. Arpaio, who is under fire from the federal government for alleged civil-rights abuses of Latino residents and prisoners in his jail system, launched an investigation into the birth certificate last year.

Hawaii has repeatedly confirmed that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii and provides documentation on its website. Mr. Obama posted his long-form birth certificate online last year.

Hawaii refused to comply with Mr. Bennett's request at first, saying he had failed to comply with state law that requires Mr. Bennett to prove he has the legal authority to seek the verification. The state said Mr. Bennett had recently provided information that satisfied Hawaii's requirement.

Proceed to the comments section for epic lulz

  Spoiler:

Without commenting on the veracity of Hawaii’s assurance regarding the existence of “The Obamanation’s” birth certificate, the trajectory of the events that brought us to this point are troubling indeed. After all, the controversy associated with “The Obamanation” being legally qualified to occupy the White House is hardly new, and especially since he promised even after he won the 2008 election that he would preside over the most transparent administration in history, I’m unable to understand any reasonable basis that it has taken literally years in concert with the magnitude of the proactive actions of the Sec of State of the State of Arizona to produce this document.

Obviously, by virtue of his, at best, reluctance to satisfy or even discuss issues concerning his past that, for whatever reason, he finds to be inconvenient, “The Obamanation’s” promise to provide the most transparent administration in history could more accurately be described as yet one more example of his self-serving propaganda that was unmoored from his real intentions than any heart-felt promise that he intended to keep, which of course he hasn’t.

Although, to be clear, I am not claiming that “The Obamanation” was not born in Hawaii, I believe that, at this late date in concert with his demonstrated reluctance to even discuss anything about his past that he does not consider to be personally convenient for him, it is clear that “The Obamanation” is hiding something. After all, if “The Obamanation” weren’t hiding something, why would he at first attempt to satisfy questions associated with his legal qualification to be the President of the United States by initially releasing an alleged copy of his “Certification of Live Birth” instead of a copy of his long form birth certificate claiming one was as good as the other. However, there were questions about the appropriateness of this document, and in that regard, when asked about this, Hawaiian Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo explained that Hawaii stopped issuing the longer "Certificate" in 2001 when their birth records were "put into electronic files for consistent reporting", and therefore Hawaii "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.” However, despite Janice Okubo’s claim that Hawaii stopped issuing the longer “Certificate” in 2001, “The Obamanation” alleges that on April 25, 2001 Loretta Fuddy, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, approved “The Obamanation’s” request for one and witnessed the copying process as the health department's registrar issued the certified copies one of which was allegedly posted online. Subsequent to this release there have been many claims that this is a forged document, and there have been arguments both ways concerning its authenticity.

While I can’t and don’t claim to know the entire truth about all this confusion, I’m unable to get past the notion that, if “The Obamanation” weren’t trying to hide something, he wouldn’t have been so invested in maintaining all the secrecy surrounding this birth certificate, what passport he traveled to Indonesia, India and Pakistan on before he attended Columbia, his college records and how and why he was born Barack Obama only to be known as Barry Soetoro before once again reverting to Barack Obama.

Indeed, all this secrecy, uncertainty and the demonstrated enormous efforts by “The Obamanation” to maintain that secrecy and uncertainty documents to my satisfaction that this man is hiding something, and I wonder just what that could be?

TMA "the Obamanation"

[Al Simmons]

He didn't hide anything though! He even released his official birth video.