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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    PG rig? I think not.
    Try Tuvan's Ions x6, Electrons x2 and then either Nano Pump or perhaps Explo resist rig.
    Before any implants that's -150dps, +150dps rep, -5bil aka 1/3 off of the cost according to PyFA.
    IIRC full tank Navy Mega has like twice the tank, 2/3 dps, no web.
    This is a garmon copy, so go over the numbers with him not me *shrug*

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    You think mine wasn't? IDK that he filmed or lost anything but Tuvan's, on Vindi and NMega.

    I believe your second fit is just doing what a ~300mil Hype with no links would do except for ~350dps. Would rather have a friend fly a bomber/buffered BS or something to get the same results unless you must be 'solo'
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    I can't remember which video it was exactly (i just remember it was drop dead epic) and he was rolling cormack electrons and ions. there's a lossmail out there somewhere on the SHC mirror. i know because i posted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    You think mine wasn't? IDK that he filmed or lost anything but Tuvan's, on Vindi and NMega.

    I believe your second fit is just doing what a ~300mil Hype with no links would do except for ~600dps.
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    Im serious.
    That's the sad part.

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    I stand corrected, I'd not turned on the drones when that fit imported

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    I can't remember which video it was exactly (i just remember it was drop dead epic) and he was rolling cormack electrons and ions. there's a lossmail out there somewhere on the SHC mirror. i know because i posted it.
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6957353

    No eft fitting button on the kb =[

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyrieee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudolf Miller View Post
    I can't remember which video it was exactly (i just remember it was drop dead epic) and he was rolling cormack electrons and ions. there's a lossmail out there somewhere on the SHC mirror. i know because i posted it.
    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6957353

    No eft fitting button on the kb =[
    i guess my memory's fading in my old age. thank you

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    The genos kb has the EFT link, but I was going to say that doesn't make you wrong that there could be another fit with a PG rig. There's a 2 bil Hype loss in highsec that had a Tuvan and 7 T2 guns, not seeing any others as pimped. Also, fits from vids can be tricky to trace back as afaik the Vindi was 7 guns at some point, so you have to count the mids or look up mails to see if it's a navy mega (unless the slot count changed too).

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    Garmonation 8 was what I was thinking of.

    He does a short clip with N-Mega (7 guns) then goes to vindi which is 8 guns

    http://www.youtube.com/user/garmon12...45/CHlARFm4_zI

    http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard...readID=1373005

    Even back then it raped face but now good lord.

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    That fight where he gets the raven right as his vindi almost pops is so epic, god damn

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    [Vindicator, you can't handle the manliness]
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Damage Control II

    Shadow Serpentis 100MN MicroWarpdrive
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
    Large Drone Durability Enhancer I
    Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


    Ogre II x5


    So manly your beard/moustache hair tingles upon viewing this setup.

    2185 dps. 69k ehp. Double 90% webs for even more win. Words cannot describe the amount of manliness/awesome contained within. Would be hilarious to try this vs station humping faggots in losec. =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordsServant View Post
      Spoiler:
    [Vindicator, you can't handle the manliness]
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Damage Control II

    Shadow Serpentis 100MN MicroWarpdrive
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Domination Warp Scrambler
    Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
    Large Drone Durability Enhancer I
    Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


    Ogre II x5


    So manly your beard/moustache hair tingles upon viewing this setup.

    2185 dps. 69k ehp. Double 90% webs for even more win. Words cannot describe the amount of manliness/awesome contained within. Would be hilarious to try this vs station humping faggots in losec. =D
    better have a pair of guardians and a disposable triage carrier on standby.

    but yes, hot damn that deeps

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    This is my provisional new Vindi.


    [Vindicator, X Type Tank]
    Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
    Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Damage Control II
    Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer

    Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive
    Vizan's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Vizan's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Large Anti-Explosive Pump II
    Large Nanobot Accelerator I
    Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II


    Ogre II x5

    1485 DPS and 1320 DPS Tank without implants or links.

    One option is to swap the Cap Boosters out for Selynne's to get another 2 Ions on there but that makes does come at a cost of how quickly you can inject cap.

    One of the webs is an optional Point/Scram/ECCM/SeBo
    Last edited by Vehlin; July 20 2012 at 10:21:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    yeah man, optional point/scram doesnt really cut it does it?
    Well the intention is generally to shoot things that are already pointed and make full use of the web bonus, but it's no bother to refit at the pos beforehand.

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    You know an unlinked, unpimped Hyperion could tank the same with 2 60% webs and do ~500 less dps, aka 2/3 the same? Pretty sure a plated NMega would put out the same dps with ~250k EHP for minimal pimp. Basically I'm amazed that tank's as weak as you claim, and don't think it's worth it at all, look again at least with a-types & t1 rigs. Did you forget exile & heat or something?
    Also links would make the EM rig useless, and how much difference is it just going with a second nano pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vehlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    yeah man, optional point/scram doesnt really cut it does it?
    Well the intention is generally to shoot things that are already pointed and make full use of the web bonus, but it's no bother to refit at the pos beforehand.
    I also enjoy eft warrioring like a boss, thankfully I know the crap that I can put out is mostly pointless (excuse the unintentional pun).

    Yes, well done, you can strap the best/most expensive things to a 1bil ship and put it over 6bil, doesn't mean its any better if you still ahve shit skills and don't know what to do anyways.

    By your thought of only attacking something that is already pointed, why bother with so much pimp, just go shield gank and throw everything into DPS.


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    Yeah I picked the wrong Reps in EFT....

    [Vindicator, X Type Tank]
    Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
    Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Damage Control II
    Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
    Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer

    Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive
    Vizan's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Vizan's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor

    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
    Electron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

    Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Large Nanobot Accelerator I
    Large Auxiliary Nano Pump II


    Ogre II x5

    Is the right one. That's 4081 with Damnation links, Strong Exile and Overheat. Better taking the 2nd nano than the Exl Rig and cheaper too.
    Last edited by Vehlin; July 20 2012 at 04:38:57 PM.

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    Sounds more like it, but you also see how huge a difference the absolute value is with links (and it's that which is number of ships tanked). At least EHP is mostly driven by slaves and any BC can run a mindlink + resist link to get to potential. Can't say I'm persuaded by this x-type fit. Holding back a few billion with a-types and t1 rigs might be wise, but then if you die due to 1 BS/BS more than you can tank, you'll kick yourself & me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Sounds more like it, but you also see how huge a difference the absolute value is with links (and it's that which is number of ships tanked). At least EHP is mostly driven by slaves and any BC can run a mindlink + resist link to get to potential. Can't say I'm persuaded by this x-type fit. Holding back a few billion with a-types and t1 rigs might be wise, but then if you die due to 1 BS/BS more than you can tank, you'll kick yourself & me
    Well the difference between the A and X type is about 600m for the pair, so it's not going to save me a great deal in the grand scheme of things. I'll probably go with the T1 rigs tho for the moment. The big expense is the A-Type EANMs but they're providing a decent benefit.

    At the end of the day its a fun ship to play with, not like I've got anything else to spend isk on.
    Last edited by Vehlin; July 20 2012 at 05:20:57 PM.

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    Ok this is just an (probably terrible) idea i had, so ive watched fons most recent video once more and the dualweb machariel seems pretty nice, so i asked myslef why you cant do that in a vindicator. Its speed/agility is pretty much that of a linked shield machariel, its range/tracking is that of a shield talos and it has similar ehp to a standard passive machariel, it also tank 1k dps before heat and puts out some nice dps and it has two 27km 90% webs (so can pretty much kill all frigates no matter where they are, as it even with its mwd turned off is faster then they are so it can always produce 0 transversal) which provide insane range control.

    So heres what ive come up with:

    [Vindicator, armorkiting//xxl daredevil]
    Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
    Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
    Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
    Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Centum B-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
    Damage Control II
    Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

    Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
    Imperial Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L

    Large Polycarbon Engine Housing II
    Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I
    Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I


    Berserker II x5


    (use with legion/loki links, hg snakes, zors, quafe zero/exile booster). Could also fly it like a gigantic taranis, draw off tacklers (i.e anything subcapital), load void, turn around, heat and drop them in seconds.


    Thoughts?
    Last edited by W0lf Crendraven; December 19 2012 at 11:00:27 AM.

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