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    Shares/Investment thread

    Iirc we had one of these over at SHC. And now with the issues caused by the dollar/euro and debt levels of various countries seemingly dragging us towards another recesion shares are crashing all over the place. So what do you see as a good investment in the near future when the drops seem to be bottoming out? Banks? mining?

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    land land land property property property

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    You should invest in my company, as we are consistently profitable. Also, I have absolutely no bias in recommending it.

    srs post: I hear the Swiss franc is all the rage these days.

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    land is about the most secure investment right now, preferably some land that has something on it. Like a gold, silver, niobium mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Marshall View Post
    land is about the most secure investment right now, preferably some land that has something on it. Like a gold, silver, niobium mine.
    Couldnt agree more... invest in land in Beijing... nothing wrong with that

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    Buy up land on the pacific seafloor. Lots of rare earth elements.

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    Land's always good long term, but it's a bit overdone at the moment so there are better unless you're holding forever to collect rent. Precious metals for me, though some people insist only lead and tin will you see you through everything.

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    Obligatory sovereign debt!

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    Pork bellies are delicious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Marshall View Post
    Pork bellies are delicious!
    they will also bring you more and longer happiness than any other currently available form of investment

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    That's from the blip they had last year that was blamed on a "fat finger error". The guys voice starts to go about 4 and half mins in.

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    From what I've read, the markets are reacting badly to the debt ceiling deal and suspect it's 1937 all over again.
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

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    A good bet would be Swiss Franks. The swiss central bank is releasing franks to try to keep the value down, which may work short term, but they probably won't be able to stop the rise.

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    IMO investing in shares is like gambling, it only makes sense if you know more than those setting the odds.

    Property otoh is a good long-term investment, but during that long term it is still susceptible to short term rise/fall cycles like anything else.

    My pick is that property will remain flat for a while. Demand will ease as fewer people will actually be able to afford buying anything, particularly the potential first home buyers who are having a hard time budgeting for their current existence as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Derindar View Post
    IMO investing in shares is like gambling, it only makes sense if you know more than those setting the odds.

    Property otoh is a good long-term investment, but during that long term it is still susceptible to short term rise/fall cycles like anything else.

    My pick is that property will remain flat for a while. Demand will ease as fewer people will actually be able to afford buying anything, particularly the potential first home buyers who are having a hard time budgeting for their current existence as it is.
    I dont mean to be insensitive am generally curious.

    Is rebuilding causing a big influx of dollars into development in the areas hit with earthquakes? Are the insurance payouts being used to re-build and renew or are the property owners cutting and running?

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    There's some town in the netherlands(maybe elsewhere but they're pretty crazy so I'd say it's dutchies) either way the land is more or less a free for all and the architectural design is pretty much the same with little or no restrictions(I presume they won't let people build retarded shit though v0v). Best bet is to pick up some land in this little town wait a few years and then sell it off to faggy hipsters now desperate to get themselves a quirky/cool/dark/non-conformist/absolutely fagulous house in hipsterville.

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    I'm keeping all my wealth in the USD, most stable place i could have it really.

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    I would very strongly recommend that you don't try to time the market or look to invest in the near future for short-term investment gains. The stock market is inherently irrational in the short run (Tulipmania), and as an individual investor your only advantage over large entities is that you can afford to have a long-term time horizon on your investments. Hedge & mutual fund managers are promoted (and fired) based on how well they do each quarter. You can afford to invest on a five or ten year time horizon if you want.

    If you are investing in stocks you should be far more concerned with the individual companies you are buying rather than the overall industry (i.e. mining) or the state of the economy. You shouldn't buy Freeport or Vale because they are mining companies and you think the mining sector will go up, you should buy them because you think the individual company is undervalued based on it's fundamentals. Don't buy LinkedIn trading at 40x revenue because it's the hot new IPO and you think it will make lots of money in the future - that's just pure speculation. Buy a company because it's market cap is $80 billion with $30b net cash on it's books and it makes $8b a year net with 60+% gross margins and will continue to increase it's revenue for the foreseeable future.

    All that said, I think a lot of older large-cap tech stocks have fallen out of favor and look undervalued relative to their profits, near-monopolies, and mountains of cash.

    Whatever you do, don't buy gold and don't do forex trading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celedris View Post
    I would very strongly recommend that you don't try to time the market or look to invest in the near future for short-term investment gains. The stock market is inherently irrational in the short run (Tulipmania), and as an individual investor your only advantage over large entities is that you can afford to have a long-term time horizon on your investments. Hedge & mutual fund managers are promoted (and fired) based on how well they do each quarter. You can afford to invest on a five or ten year time horizon if you want.

    If you are investing in stocks you should be far more concerned with the individual companies you are buying rather than the overall industry (i.e. mining) or the state of the economy. You shouldn't buy Freeport or Vale because they are mining companies and you think the mining sector will go up, you should buy them because you think the individual company is undervalued based on it's fundamentals. Don't buy LinkedIn trading at 40x revenue because it's the hot new IPO and you think it will make lots of money in the future - that's just pure speculation. Buy a company because it's market cap is $80 billion with $30b net cash on it's books and it makes $8b a year net with 60+% gross margins and will continue to increase it's revenue for the foreseeable future.

    All that said, I think a lot of older large-cap tech stocks have fallen out of favor and look undervalued relative to their profits, near-monopolies, and mountains of cash.

    Whatever you do, don't buy gold and don't do forex trading.
    Buying stocks for short term gains is basically gambling regardless of the state of the market. I'm more of a long term fellah anyways, and I don't make my livelihood on playing the market (also known as being that rich fag being interviewed on T.V. on how he made all his money, then being a broke son of a bitch because he was abusing a bubble and didn't get out in time.). Buying gold is for stability, if you are rich enough to shuffle cash in to gold you don't need to look to FHC for stock tips. Gold has a tendancy of maintaining roughly the same monetary value with inflation, fluctuations do happen but rarely in the negative, unless you buy gold from those people on T.V. then you are fuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

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