JediSouls: Fallen Order

[Itiken]

I had a bit of a wobble yesterday but I am definitely excited to get home and play this tonight now, thanks for the positive vibes man.

[Sandzibar]

Looks fun.

The dude does kind of run like he shit himself / is made entirely from knees

[VARRAKK]

Watched quite a bit into the walkthrough of the game, bit derpy story.
And it is very tomb raidery. Even got puzzle tombs and all.

[Itiken]

I like it, tho am bad at it so far.
The dodge/Evade button seems to be very flakey and my timing is terrible. oh well. going to invest in block/stamina/health. should be fine!

[Spartan Dax]

Having played it for two hours, I like it. Runs well, looks good but it needs a controller or a serious rework of the keyboard layout. The stock one is terribad.

[Malcanis]

Shame EA doesn't make any worthwhile games.

mlyp

he's not wrong tho

[RazoR]

Having played it for two hours, I like it. Runs well, looks good but it needs a controller or a serious rework of the keyboard layout. The stock one is terribad.

Can't you remap? Isn't it 2019?

[Nobody_Holme]

Having played it for two hours, I like it. Runs well, looks good but it needs a controller or a serious rework of the keyboard layout. The stock one is terribad.

Can't you remap? Isn't it 2019?

You totally can, but it doesnt want you to. This is 100% built for controller.

Also, not my style of game, and I am bad, but enjoying this, they actually built something not awful out of it, was expecting a disaster zone, got something I'm not mad about the price on when its the most I've paid for a video game (in one go) in about 5 years. Thanks, Respawn, carrying EA again.

[RazoR]

You totally can, but it doesnt want you to. This is 100% built for controller.

wat

[Isyel]

You totally can, but it doesnt want you to. This is 100% built for controller.

wat

This genre is always superior on a controller.

[Lady Spank]

PC Master race should be forced to drive with keyboard and mouse.

[RazoR]

PC Master race should be forced to drive with keyboard and mouse.

PC master race has wheels, hotas, what have you. I don't do sims because i'm a poorfag so i stick with K&M for everything and it works. Then again i don't play fighting or platformers.

The notion of a TPS not being comfortable with K&M is insane.

[Isyel]

The notion of a TPS not being comfortable with K&M is insane.

Well good thing we're not talking about a TPS game then.

[Lady Spank]

Strange how wheels and hotas are acceptable but control pads are not.

[Isyel]

Strange how wheels and hotas are acceptable but control pads are not.

It's some weird matter of pride some nerds have, don't ask me why.

[Shaikar]

You totally can, but it doesnt want you to. This is 100% built for controller.

wat

You can remap/adjust everything you'd expect to and once you have the game plays fine. Not sure what all the huffing and puffing above is about. v0v
The interface for doing the rebinding is fucking terrible though, which I'm guessing is what is being referred to?

For example, for some reason to bind things to mouse buttons beyond the usual 3 you need to do an odd double click, where the second click is a hold.
Say you want to bind evade to mouse 4 rather than the default [Z] ( ); if you just click or click-and-hold mouse 4 when rebinding, nothing will happen. But if you double click mouse 4, with the second click being a hold until it sets, it works fine.

Another one is mouse settings are hidden away on this screen:

  Spoiler:

Can you tell where they are?

That's right, you

  Spoiler:

scroll down.
Only two problems with that; one it's not clear there even is a "down" to scroll, and two, the mouse wheel doesn't always scroll here, you have to use W/S to scroll up/down reliably. (Mouse wheel didn't work on this or the keybinding screen for the first few gos for me so I missed this entirely until I asked Google and...yep, lots of people reporting weird shit like this. Naturally it worked on this screen later in the day. :P

Simples!

The settings interface madness actually reminds me of Gothic/Arx Fatalis and similar games, where the devs seemed totally isolated from the rest of the industry. They've had to cobble everything together from scratch, unaware of how other people have solved problems like "make an options interface that isn't obtuse".

As for the game, it's pretty fun and thankfully no Patty so far.

[RazoR]

Strange how wheels and hotas are acceptable but control pads are not.

You can do whatever, i just find gamepads awkward until you for whatever reason need two digital inputs. Then it's still awkward, but at least useful.

[Sandzibar]

Strange how wheels and hotas are acceptable but control pads are not.

It's some weird matter of pride some nerds have, don't ask me why.

Oh come off it.... thats a shit argument Spank is making Isyel and you know it.

Wheels and Hotas are acceptable for driving and flying because they replicate the reallife counterparts used exactly. They have all the required inputs and functions.

Are wheels and hotas acceptable for anything other genres than those they are designed to be used in ?

Hotas FPS?

Wheel MMO?

[Isyel]

Best control method for the situation (in this case genre).

[Sandzibar]

I don't hate controllers, but I'm aware of their limitations and the effect that those limitations will impose on game design compared to alternatives.

edit: edited edit because of Isyel's edit. edit.