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  1. #21

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    Ignore the bad drones mix:

    [Dominix, Large Neutrons?! XL ASBs +web]

    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Co-Processor II
    Co-Processor II

    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L

    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    Berserker II x5
    Vespa EC-600 x5
    Ogre II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Hornet EC-300 x5


    1500dps before Void L.
    2.4kdps tank sustainable before drugs. Burst >6.2k dps before drugs
    Here the web has cost something like 150dps sustainable tank after squeezing in cheap tech1 shield boost amps. But actually gained at least as much in output dps due to space CPU and the need for a PG rig to go full neutrons (thus inferior fit and not being posted).

    [Dominix, Large Neutrons?! XL ASBs m nos? 3]

    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Co-Processor II
    Co-Processor II

    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
    Shield Boost Amplifier I
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    Berserker II x5
    Vespa EC-600 x5
    Ogre II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Hornet EC-300 x5


    Minus the web it's up to 3k tank before Blue Pill, 1283dps dealt before best ammo & any gun implants. Where is your Tier3 BS tank god now? -this matches a Mael for this fit style. It's down to cap-needing guns & nos vs capless guns, minor differences in tracking, applied dps within tackle range, ECM vs drones behaviour vs slightly higher base sensor strength. Oh yeah and price, engageability.

    A heavy Nos brings you back to mixed guns to avoid the PG rig, and less damage mods (think TEs). Someone feel free to point out if it's worth it after considering cycle times and different neuting pressures.

    Bringing the web back, for the same tank as the first fit:

    [Dominix, Large Neutrons?! XL ASBs m nos? 3 +web]

    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Co-Processor II
    Co-Processor II

    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
    Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    Berserker II x5
    Vespa EC-600 x5
    Ogre II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Warrior II x5
    Hornet EC-300 x5


    Now slightly up again to 1374dps dealt.

    Without trying to sort the PG limitation, free CPU leads to favouring more damage mods rather than bigger highslot modules, which are then not entirely predictable as to which are best at each CPU limitation/stepping (MFS vs DDA), IIRC 6 Guns still wants 3 MFS before 2+2 even using Ogres max paper dps.
    Last edited by Daneel Trevize; June 23 2012 at 07:12:27 PM.

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    The only way to get those quoted tank numbers is with a Tengu alt. Freestanding tank is much, much lower.

    700-ish sustained on your first fit, 900 on your second.

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    im asssuming thats supposed to be for station games, because that's totally useless otherwise.
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    It's literally whatever you'd use an active Maelstrom and other similar BSs for. So yes, stations & gates mostly, and yes lowsec no holds barred force multipliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    It's literally whatever you'd use an active Maelstrom and other similar BSs for. So yes, stations & gates mostly, and yes lowsec no holds barred force multipliers.
    see my lossmail. it doesnt work nearly as well as a maelstrom as you have literally half the tank.

    your 4k dps tank runs out in 30 seconds...

    derp server rollback ate my post

    http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboar...hp?id=16769793

    that was without crystals but with tengu boosts.

    literally couldnt tank them with a single heated booster. had to use 2 and barely tanked them until i ran out of cap charges and then cap.

    just stick with a mael
    Last edited by Lex Fasces; June 23 2012 at 08:38:54 PM.

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    You have exactly the same tank as a dual XL ASB Mael. 3k per booster, not 4 unless you're counting drugs (unless PyFA is lying to me). 1T2+1T1 shield boost amp comes out the same as the ASB Mael with 2xT2 because that has a CPU rig rather than the stacked EM resist rig.

    Running without HG Crystals of course makes a difference...

    Shit PyFA's fucking this up, isn't applying Mael's hull bonus. 3006.1 per ASB on both a Tempest and a Mael with the same tank mods & multipliers
    Scorpion should still be very comparable for tank, but less dps dealt.
    Last edited by Daneel Trevize; June 24 2012 at 12:52:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    You have exactly the same tank as a dual XL ASB Mael. 3k per booster, not 4 unless you're counting drugs (unless PyFA is lying to me). 1T2+1T1 shield boost amp comes out the same as the ASB Mael with 2xT2 because that has a CPU rig rather than the stacked EM resist rig.

    Running without HG Crystals of course makes a difference...

    Shit PyFA's fucking this up, isn't applying Mael's hull bonus. 3006.1 per ASB on both a Tempest and a Mael with the same tank mods & multipliers
    Scorpion should still be very comparable for tank, but less dps dealt.
    the mael has more tank and more buffer in shield.

    but sure go lose a domi over testing it =) i certainly wont be using it again

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    Bringing Battleship Solo back?

    [Dominix, dumpsterzone]
    Damage Control II
    1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
    Reactive Armor Hardener
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
    1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II

    Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
    Large Micro Jump Drive
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

    Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
    Large YF-12a Smartbomb
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M

    Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Large Nanobot Accelerator I
    Large Nanobot Accelerator I


    Ogre II x5
    Berserker II x5
    Valkyrie II x5
    Warrior II x10
    Hornet EC-300 x5

    p excited to try this in less blobby 0.0 areas.

    700ish DPS tanked on top of actual armor buffer and GTFO butans

    Not sure if Sentries are more useful to chase off Falcons etc.

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