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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Meanwhile, over in the whitehouse...

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...-leaked-emails

    In the run-up to the 2016 election, White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller promoted white nationalist literature, pushed racist immigration stories and obsessed over the loss of Confederate symbols after Dylann Roof’s murderous rampage, according to leaked emails reviewed by Hatewatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Meanwhile, over in the whitehouse...

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...-leaked-emails

    In the run-up to the 2016 election, White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller promoted white nationalist literature, pushed racist immigration stories and obsessed over the loss of Confederate symbols after Dylann Roof’s murderous rampage, according to leaked emails reviewed by Hatewatch.
    :surprisedpikachuface:
    I did not see that coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Meanwhile, over in the whitehouse...

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...-leaked-emails

    In the run-up to the 2016 election, White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller promoted white nationalist literature, pushed racist immigration stories and obsessed over the loss of Confederate symbols after Dylann Roof’s murderous rampage, according to leaked emails reviewed by Hatewatch.
    :surprisedpikachuface:

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    I've not visited this forum for a few years and when i logged in today i was a bit nervous about opening this thread, but it warms my heart that you mostly appear sane. Mostly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaeDoc II View Post
    I've not visited this forum for a few years and when i logged in today i was a bit nervous about opening this thread, but it warms my heart that you mostly appear sane. Mostly.
    Very much down to definitions tbh
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaeDoc II View Post
    I've not visited this forum for a few years and when i logged in today i was a bit nervous about opening this thread, but it warms my heart that you mostly appear sane. Mostly.
    Very much down to definitions tbh
    Будь смиренным, будь кротким, не заботься о тленном
    Власти, данной Богом, сынок, будь навеки верным...
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    maybe they should put some fucking shirts on then and get back to work, those bananas wont grow themselves, vamos campesinos!
    Replace the singing banana with a friendly little bag of white powder and that might reflect the reality of life for campesinos these days...

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    Bob help me, I watched some of the hearings today. Dems were calm and organized and questioned effectively, and Republican members were shrill and yelly and spun conspiracy theories with their time. Their lawyer who did a lot of the questioning was much more reasonable, but still seemed to be working overtime to Imply Implications rather than defending Trump's behavior on the merits.

    Day 1: No Alarms and No Surprises, except for some new testimony about Trump's direct involvement with making demands on the Ukrainian President.
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    So when are the Dems going to summon Rudy, or hold people in contempt of Congress for ignoring subpoenas? I mean, there's no point issuing subpoenas if you're not going to throw your weight around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    I watched some of the hearings today.
    seek help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    So when are the Dems going to summon Rudy, or hold people in contempt of Congress for ignoring subpoenas? I mean, there's no point issuing subpoenas if you're not going to throw your weight around.
    Nordstern in: the rulers don't have to follow the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    So when are the Dems going to summon Rudy, or hold people in contempt of Congress for ignoring subpoenas? I mean, there's no point issuing subpoenas if you're not going to throw your weight around.
    One of the better exchanges came when Rep. Jordan (the guy who allegedly ignored extreme sexual assault of athletes at Ohio State when he was a coach there) complained that much of the testimony Democrats are relying on is indirect or second hand, and a rep from Virginia countered that "we have a seat here for the primary source to come in and testify whenever he wants," referring ofc. to Trump.

    Practically, the sad truth is that aside from the Sergeant at Arms, Congress has very little direct power to physically enforce subpoenas. I do worry that Dems will rely too much on the witnesses they already have access to, and will try to argue that Trump's ordering everyone to ignore subpoenas is itself an impeachable obstruction of justice, but that sort of thing is hard to get the public to buy into when people apparently already have enough trouble wrapping their heads around the basic facts of the current extortion case, and trying to get the Capitol Police to go clap irons on someone ensconced in the White House is a fight no one wants to have.
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    what happens to a normal person when they ignore a subpoena?


    Poland treats me like shit and I hate them as a result of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox View Post
    what happens to a normal person when they ignore a subpoena?
    They get held in contempt and if they continue to not show up, they're subject to fines and potential imprisonment. The whole problem currently is that the people ignoring subpoenas are serving in the Executive Branch, which creates a ton of thorny and technocratic legal issues:

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/congress...tween-branches
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox View Post
    what happens to a normal person when they ignore a subpoena?
    They get held in contempt and if they continue to not show up, they're subject to fines and potential imprisonment. The whole problem currently is that the people ignoring subpoenas are serving in the Executive Branch, which creates a ton of thorny and technocratic legal issues:

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/congress...tween-branches
    But the Executive Branch protection, only last for as long as they are in the position.
    Next election is under a year..

    Now that this thing has started, I doubt a resignation/loss of election will stop it from being concluded.
    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    So when are the Dems going to summon Rudy, or hold people in contempt of Congress for ignoring subpoenas? I mean, there's no point issuing subpoenas if you're not going to throw your weight around.
    One of the better exchanges came when Rep. Jordan (the guy who allegedly ignored extreme sexual assault of athletes at Ohio State when he was a coach there) complained that much of the testimony Democrats are relying on is indirect or second hand, and a rep from Virginia countered that "we have a seat here for the primary source to come in and testify whenever he wants," referring ofc. to Trump.
    Wasn't that counter related to Rep. Jordan's rant about the "whistleblower"?

    Also: "unusual but not outlandish" Taylor reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Wasn't that counter related to Rep. Jordan's rant about the "whistleblower"?
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    "Holy shit, I ask you to stop being autistic and you debate what autistic is." - spasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    boetie is snaaks.
    meh

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    In good news for a change, Roger Stone guilty on all 7 counts
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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