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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
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    where's Don Rumata when you need one
    he announced and flounced after djan told him to literally kill himself
    Actually I think you’ll find I told him that right after he bounced.
    Shouldn't have said that.
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    And Sanders is out from the race

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    And Sanders is out from the race
    oh shiiiiiiieeeeeeet! Trump just splooged all over the oval office.
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    I would create a dragon made out of vaginas. Then I would create a dragon made out of dicks. Then I would have them fight to the death.

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    The Finnish news actually (at least on the initial piece) called Sanders the number 1 candinate for democrat presidency

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    The Finnish news actually (at least on the initial piece) called Sanders the number 1 candinate for democrat presidency
    He was for like almost a week.
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    And Sanders is out from the race
    I felt a great disturbance in the American Progressive movement, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.


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    Trump is going to win with even less total votes than he did in 2016 if Biden doesn't just straight up die or become a vegetable before the election.

    assuming you're even going to have one with the 'rona raging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Trump is going to win with even less total votes than he did in 2016 if......
    Democrats losing twice back to back to a literally unelectable reality-tv moron?

    Who woulda guessed.

    One day the Dems won't fuck it all up. One day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    And Sanders is out from the race
    I felt a great disturbance in the American Progressive movement, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
    The absolute state of bernie bros.


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    Also. A bit of *I told you so.*
    https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20W31T
    The results suggested that Warren's supporters, rather than gravitating toward Sanders, have fallen in line with Biden, who shifted the dynamics of the race with a commanding victory in the South Carolina primary, followed by wins in most of the Super Tuesday nominating contests last week.

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    The question now is who is the DNC going to chose as Biden's running mate?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
    The question now is who is the DNC going to chose as Biden's running mate?
    It's like being kissed by Judas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    The question now is who is the DNC going to chose as Biden's running mate?
    It's like being kissed by Judas.
    Why? If (lol) Biden wins they're effectively getting handed the presidency by default.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
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    And Sanders is out from the race
    I felt a great disturbance in the American Progressive movement, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
    The absolute state of bernie bros.

    the problem with lesser evilism is that you're still picking a evil instead of opting not to play and delegitimizing the whole thing.

    there is a trade-off in there when the gap between the evils become small enough, can you really fault some people's reaction with that in mind ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
    The question now is who is the DNC going to chose as Biden's running mate?
    Hillary Clinton
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
    The question now is who is the DNC going to chose as Biden's running mate?
    Hillary Clinton
    Best timeline...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
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    And Sanders is out from the race
    I felt a great disturbance in the American Progressive movement, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
    The absolute state of bernie bros.

    the problem with lesser evilism is that you're still picking a evil instead of opting not to play and delegitimizing the whole thing.

    there is a trade-off in there when the gap between the evils become small enough, can you really fault some people's reaction with that in mind ?
    The problem with both siderism is that there Is a fundimental difference between shooting one, or both feet, whether through ignorance or spite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post

    there is a trade-off in there when the gap between the evils become small enough, can you really fault some people's reaction with that in mind ?
    You could have maybe made this argument if we had a semi-sane republican president. Instead, we have Trump, whose obsession with appearances (more testing will lead to higher numbers of confirmed cases, therefore don't test) and determination to grift every cent that he can is literally getting americans killed. Not even through indifference or incompetence but through outright malice.

    Almost literally any other Republican canditate from 2016, I could see people making the 'both sides' argument, but right now? Fuck no. Biden would not be openly fighting with the states, allowing people to die because they didn't kiss his ass appropriately.

    I'm in a position where I'll survive another Trump term (hell, I work for a defense contractor, Trump has been great for my employer) but I absolutely cannot look into the eyes of the people who will die if he gets re-elected and say that it's worth it to teach the DNC a lesson.
    Quarantined and loving life.

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    And I still can't get over this blinkered fantasy that the man who loses twice in the DNC cripple fight is somehow, magically more likely to win in the general.

    If he didn't have charisma, competence or political clout to beat the faded ghost of a man Obama, whipped 12 years ago, he's not going to beat trump, the rnc and the nasty bullshit all that entails dispite him polling... OK before the rnc have had a chance to construct a narrative that he's really the second coming of Hillary Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    The problem with both siderism is that there Is a fundimental difference between shooting one, or both feet, whether through ignorance or spite.
    it's still basically a "heads, i win, tails you lose!" for a large chunk of the core base Sanders managed to mobilize.

    no doubt many will do their "duty" and vote for whatever rat-faced snakes the DNC rolls out as Bidens cabinet (because really, if you think Biden is going to decide anything you're fooling yourself, the man is barely coherent much of the time) but going "lol berniebro's!" at that reaction after a DNC electoral process that flat out belongs in the third world ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steckersaurus View Post
    You could have maybe made this argument if we had a semi-sane republican president. Instead, we have Trump, whose obsession with appearances (more testing will lead to higher numbers of confirmed cases, therefore don't test) and determination to grift every cent that he can is literally getting americans killed. Not even through indifference or incompetence but through outright malice.
    so, he's behaving like basically every republican president since Reagan only ruder and with less media coaching ?

    at this point you're just saying "you must vote for the lesser evil, regardless of how evil it is!", this is not a message that's going to mobilize voters or convince anybody who's decided to just fuck off and tune out politics entirely for a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steckersaurus View Post
    Almost literally any other Republican canditate from 2016, I could see people making the 'both sides' argument, but right now? Fuck no. Biden would not be openly fighting with the states, allowing people to die because they didn't kiss his ass appropriately.
    instead it would be the red states going :cryingeagle:, :muhfreedoms: and the usual suspects going :fema-deathcamps!: and so forth, you'd have the same rough image with different actors playing the parts and a response that is just as failed.

    do you honestly think a democratic president would have responded any faster considering how beholden to capital they are ?
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    And I still can't get over this blinkered fantasy that the man who loses twice in the DNC cripple fight is somehow, magically more likely to win in the general.

    If he didn't have charisma, competence or political clout to beat the faded ghost of a man Obama, whipped 12 years ago, he's not going to beat trump, the rnc and the nasty bullshit all that entails dispite him polling... OK before the rnc have had a chance to construct a narrative that he's really the second coming of Hillary Clinton.
    rock paper scissors mate, where the first match up (dnc) is rock(sanders) vs paper(biden), and the winner of that round goes against scissors(trump)

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