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    Imagine the average tax being higher than the UK and you dont even get healthcare, scenes
    Unless you serve in the military (seriously the benefits are insane and I considered it as a teenager just for the benefits and pension).

    Service guarantees citizenship.
    Until you actually have to collect them, is VA still being a pile of dicks?
    They are still a broken inefficient agency that barely talks to each department much less other branches of the government and whose current health care plan is still "tell the vietnam vets to hurry up and die."

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    Surprised no one commented on this (not really):

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe’s Campaign HQ podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she’s also a Russian asset.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
    So, Jill Stein is a Russian Asset, and Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed to be a Russian Asset, eh?

    Gabbard responded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitter
    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.


    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...ssian-asset%2F
    So, is this a factual statement? Is Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard Russian Assets? Or did Hillary drink some of whatever Trump's been drinking the past few years?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no one commented on this (not really):

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe’s Campaign HQ podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she’s also a Russian asset.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
    So, Jill Stein is a Russian Asset, and Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed to be a Russian Asset, eh?

    Gabbard responded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitter
    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.


    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...ssian-asset%2F
    So, is this a factual statement? Is Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard Russian Assets? Or did Hillary drink some of whatever Trump's been drinking the past few years?
    Down to definitions, I suppose. There was a significant amount of russian-derived facebook and twitter materiel in her favour, not to mention her public cosiness with Putin. Whether that means she actively collaborated with the Russians, or was merely convenient for them to use I wouldn't like to say. In both cases you could say she was an asset to them, even if not an asset of theirs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:

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    Well, certainly Clinton couldn't have lost because she is terrible.

    Seriously though, at least Russia clearly "likes" Stein and Gabbard.

    Last edited by Dorvil Barranis; October 19 2019 at 03:56:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no one commented on this (not really):

    Or did Hillary drink some of whatever Trump's been drinking the past few years?
    Probably.

    She picked a fight with an obscure politician who is polling at like 1%. It's fair to say that she gave Tulsi more coverage and prominence to spoil the election if she chose to.

    Hillary is incredibly bad at this politics thing, even though her egotistical brain must be telling her that she's a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no one commented on this (not really):

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe’s Campaign HQ podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she’s also a Russian asset.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
    So, Jill Stein is a Russian Asset, and Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed to be a Russian Asset, eh?

    Gabbard responded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitter
    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.


    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...ssian-asset%2F
    So, is this a factual statement? Is Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard Russian Assets? Or did Hillary drink some of whatever Trump's been drinking the past few years?
    Stein certainly is, and Gabbard talks like she is, so...

    And if Karl Rove himself is defending poor little Tulsi from big bad Killary, well.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/karl-r...rd-accusations

    That speaks volumes now, doesn't it...
    Last edited by erichkknaar; October 19 2019 at 05:43:26 PM.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:
    Wut? Putin and the Russian government are laughing like drunken donkeys at the way the US is pouring blood and treasure away on futile wars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no one commented on this (not really):

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe’s Campaign HQ podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she’s also a Russian asset.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
    So, Jill Stein is a Russian Asset, and Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed to be a Russian Asset, eh?

    Gabbard responded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitter
    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.


    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...ssian-asset%2F
    So, is this a factual statement? Is Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard Russian Assets? Or did Hillary drink some of whatever Trump's been drinking the past few years?
    Stein certainly is, and Gabbard talks like she is, so...

    And if Karl Rove himself is defending poor little Tulsi from big bad Killary, well.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/karl-r...rd-accusations

    That speaks volumes now, doesn't it...
    This is the first I've heard of Gabbard being a Russian asset. Has Hillary admitted that not campaigning in Great Lakes states cost her dearly? If not, why are we listening to her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Surprised no one commented on this (not really):

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and they’re grooming her to be the third-party candidate,” Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe’s Campaign HQ podcast. “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she’s also a Russian asset.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
    So, Jill Stein is a Russian Asset, and Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed to be a Russian Asset, eh?

    Gabbard responded:

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitter
    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a ...... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.


    https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/sta...ssian-asset%2F
    So, is this a factual statement? Is Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard Russian Assets? Or did Hillary drink some of whatever Trump's been drinking the past few years?
    Stein certainly is, and Gabbard talks like she is, so...

    And if Karl Rove himself is defending poor little Tulsi from big bad Killary, well.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/karl-r...rd-accusations

    That speaks volumes now, doesn't it...
    This is the first I've heard of Gabbard being a Russian asset. Has Hillary admitted that not campaigning in Great Lakes states cost her dearly? If not, why are we listening to her?
    She said it like the day after the result was announced
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:
    Wut? Putin and the Russian government are laughing like drunken donkeys at the way the US is pouring blood and treasure away on futile wars.
    In the last couple of years, sure, but before the reality TV host became president the US had been blocking Russian influence especially in Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:
    Wut? Putin and the Russian government are laughing like drunken donkeys at the way the US is pouring blood and treasure away on futile wars.
    In the last couple of years, sure, but before the reality TV host became president the US had been blocking Russian influence especially in Syria.
    Well you're conflating what was with what is.

    Right now, Russia is 100% A-OK with all the adventurism
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:
    Wut? Putin and the Russian government are laughing like drunken donkeys at the way the US is pouring blood and treasure away on futile wars.
    Unless it's anywhere near Russian borders or anywhere they see their "historical interests". Then they shit bricks and panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:
    Wut? Putin and the Russian government are laughing like drunken donkeys at the way the US is pouring blood and treasure away on futile wars.
    Unless it's anywhere near Russian borders or anywhere they see their "historical interests". Then they shit bricks and panic.
    They seem to be pretty smirky about Syria right now

    Who can blame them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    The decisions in Syria are terrible, but everyone's kidding themselves if they thought a patchwork of unilateral interventions could remain in stasis forever to protect the Kurds or others

    It was gonna collapse at some point, probably in the next recession once voters started to scream for more resources to be allocated at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
    The decisions in Syria are terrible, but everyone's kidding themselves if they thought a patchwork of unilateral interventions could remain in stasis forever to protect the Kurds or others

    It was gonna collapse at some point, probably in the next recession once voters started to scream for more resources to be allocated at home.
    You're quite right, sadly.

    At what point will we all finally admit that the UNited Nations is an abject failure at everything other than siphoning money and producing nothing?

    Doesn't absolve the U.S. and their allies of responsibility, of course.


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    Not helping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    It's in Russian interests for America to stop pouring treasure and blood into interventionist wars.

    It's also in the interests of the American people to do that.

    It's against the interest of the shareholders of defense contractors.

    :thinking:
    Wut? Putin and the Russian government are laughing like drunken donkeys at the way the US is pouring blood and treasure away on futile wars.
    Unless it's anywhere near Russian borders or anywhere they see their "historical interests". Then they shit bricks and panic.
    Like they did in georgia and crimea. Yes, panic is the right word.

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    Were there US troops in Georgia or Crimea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    Unless it's anywhere near Russian borders or anywhere they see their "historical interests". Then they shit bricks and panic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
    Were there US troops in Georgia or Crimea?
    Could you please stitch this up for me then?

    Schroedinger's US presence.
    Last edited by RazoR; October 21 2019 at 01:45:42 AM.

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