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    Quote Originally Posted by Elriche Oshego View Post
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    “General Mazloum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never have made in the past. I am confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me, just received,” Trump wrote.

    “These words on White House stationary [sic] should embarrass all Americans, but Trump’s ‘confidential’ enclosure of the SDF commander’s letter will give our allies even less reason to trust America,” said Ned Price, a former CIA officer and National Security Council spokesman. “How much Nato correspondence has been forwarded to Putin?”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...urkey-invasion
    All of it.

    The real question is; when will we properly punish those who have committed treason against this country, and shave the heads of those who collaborated and voted for them?
    See your mindset isn't that much different from the average Trump supporter

    It's a politics of revenge for you and all about imposing pain on the people you hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewninn View Post
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    “General Mazloum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never have made in the past. I am confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me, just received,” Trump wrote.

    “These words on White House stationary [sic] should embarrass all Americans, but Trump’s ‘confidential’ enclosure of the SDF commander’s letter will give our allies even less reason to trust America,” said Ned Price, a former CIA officer and National Security Council spokesman. “How much Nato correspondence has been forwarded to Putin?”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...urkey-invasion
    All of it.

    The real question is; when will we properly punish those who have committed treason against this country, and shave the heads of those who collaborated and voted for them?
    See your mindset isn't that much different from the average Trump supporter

    It's a politics of revenge for you and all about imposing pain on the people you hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    Sure.... one person, one vote....

    Not a trigger warning at all, nop, not one bit. I thought it was bait, and yet your the one screeching?
    Fuck off. Seriously, just fuck off you trolling POS.

    You knew exactly what I meant, and decided to screeeeee like a banshee because you sir, are a dickhead.

    Not go ahead, and click that negrep again. Asshole.

    :Yes Triggered:


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    Eh, it was a bad miss by Pattern.

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    People seriously need to take a chill pill ITT jeeez



    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    The real question is; when will we properly punish those who have committed treason against this country, and shave the heads of those who collaborated and voted for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
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    “General Mazloum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never have made in the past. I am confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me, just received,” Trump wrote.

    “These words on White House stationary [sic] should embarrass all Americans, but Trump’s ‘confidential’ enclosure of the SDF commander’s letter will give our allies even less reason to trust America,” said Ned Price, a former CIA officer and National Security Council spokesman. “How much Nato correspondence has been forwarded to Putin?”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...urkey-invasion
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50080737

    Erdogan binned the letter, per BBC.
    Lunacy, I would have had it professionally framed and then auctioned for a nice sum of money, gotta be many collectors that would love to have such a iconic presidential letter in their collections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
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    “General Mazloum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never have made in the past. I am confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me, just received,” Trump wrote.

    “These words on White House stationary [sic] should embarrass all Americans, but Trump’s ‘confidential’ enclosure of the SDF commander’s letter will give our allies even less reason to trust America,” said Ned Price, a former CIA officer and National Security Council spokesman. “How much Nato correspondence has been forwarded to Putin?”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...urkey-invasion
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50080737

    Erdogan binned the letter, per BBC.
    Lunacy, I would have had it professionally framed and then auctioned for a nice sum of money, gotta be many collectors that would love to have such a iconic presidential letter in their collections.
    You see Putin would have done this. Erdogan's alignment with the new Russia will only be to his detriment because he's just not that smart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    People seriously need to take a chill pill ITT jeeez

    You're right Helgur, sorry. Done and dusted.

    In other news, CNN analysis says Warren is now the front runner (a good thing!):

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/polit...ked/index.html

    Obviously I don't agree with her on all her policy ideals, but I'd quite like to see her in the Office. She won't get everything she wants, but the things I think she could perhaps get would generally all be good overall.
    Last edited by Alistair; October 17 2019 at 09:07:24 PM.


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    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    I don't know honestly. I think the Bernie Bro/Warren Women are a growing Demographic here, but apart from the quite young AOC crowdm I'm not sure there are alot of already-in-place folks to help carry the torch.

    Hence why I think she'll get some things done, the more moderate-left ideas that do in fact have some really strong bipartisan (voter, not elected official) support. The more aggressive stuff, no, not in the short term. Maybe the longer term tho if she's good at being President.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    I don't know honestly. I think the Bernie Bro/Warren Women are a growing Demographic here, but apart from the quite young AOC crowdm I'm not sure there are alot of already-in-place folks to help carry the torch.

    Hence why I think she'll get some things done, the more moderate-left ideas that do in fact have some really strong bipartisan (voter, not elected official) support. The more aggressive stuff, no, not in the short term. Maybe the longer term tho if she's good at being President.
    One thing I like about her, from the interviews I've seen, she really truly seems to despise predatory business practices. Payday loans, bad mortages, that kind of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    Nope. The people who come close are just a lot of progressives. On paper they have okay politics, but they're completely submissive to the Democratic establishment. No real leaders or insurgents there to rock the boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan Dax View Post
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    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    I don't know honestly. I think the Bernie Bro/Warren Women are a growing Demographic here, but apart from the quite young AOC crowdm I'm not sure there are alot of already-in-place folks to help carry the torch.

    Hence why I think she'll get some things done, the more moderate-left ideas that do in fact have some really strong bipartisan (voter, not elected official) support. The more aggressive stuff, no, not in the short term. Maybe the longer term tho if she's good at being President.
    One thing I like about her, from the interviews I've seen, she really truly seems to despise predatory business practices. Payday loans, bad mortages, that kind of stuff.
    Agreed. Her sense of Justice is not in any way misplaced I think. She loathes the truly rich, of course, but frankly those fuckers probably deserve to be hated.

    My concern is the same as it always is: That "the rich" ends up being "People who make $100K", which isn't rich at all in many places.

    Keep it aimed at the billionaires and upper millionaires, I'm willing to go along, give it a chance, and see how it works in practice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    I don't know honestly. I think the Bernie Bro/Warren Women are a growing Demographic here, but apart from the quite young AOC crowdm I'm not sure there are alot of already-in-place folks to help carry the torch.

    Hence why I think she'll get some things done, the more moderate-left ideas that do in fact have some really strong bipartisan (voter, not elected official) support. The more aggressive stuff, no, not in the short term. Maybe the longer term tho if she's good at being President.
    One thing I like about her, from the interviews I've seen, she really truly seems to despise predatory business practices. Payday loans, bad mortages, that kind of stuff.
    Agreed. Her sense of Justice is not in any way misplaced I think. She loathes the truly rich, of course, but frankly those fuckers probably deserve to be hated.

    My concern is the same as it always is: That "the rich" ends up being "People who make $100K", which isn't rich at all in many places.

    Keep it aimed at the billionaires and upper millionaires, I'm willing to go along, give it a chance, and see how it works in practice.
    NIMBY

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    Aaaand the White house just admitted that there was indeed a quid pro quo over Ukraine aid. Not that it actually mattered in regard to soliciting foreign aid to influence the election.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHGu7ggRWAo

    And while we're at it lets put the next G7 at a Trump owned facility because why not. Of course benefitting the Presidents personal finances is totes ok. Since we're so open about it it has to be ok...


    It's like they've figured out they don't even have to pretend to try like they're above board anymore.

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    Mulvaney confirmed the existence of a quid pro quo and offered this retort: "Get over it."

    "We do that all the time with foreign policy," Mulvaney said of the influence of politics in the Trump administration.
    I can imagine no crime for were this response couldn't be used by this administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    I don't know honestly. I think the Bernie Bro/Warren Women are a growing Demographic here, but apart from the quite young AOC crowdm I'm not sure there are alot of already-in-place folks to help carry the torch.

    Hence why I think she'll get some things done, the more moderate-left ideas that do in fact have some really strong bipartisan (voter, not elected official) support. The more aggressive stuff, no, not in the short term. Maybe the longer term tho if she's good at being President.
    One thing I like about her, from the interviews I've seen, she really truly seems to despise predatory business practices. Payday loans, bad mortages, that kind of stuff.
    Agreed. Her sense of Justice is not in any way misplaced I think. She loathes the truly rich, of course, but frankly those fuckers probably deserve to be hated.

    My concern is the same as it always is: That "the rich" ends up being "People who make $100K", which isn't rich at all in many places.

    Keep it aimed at the billionaires and upper millionaires, I'm willing to go along, give it a chance, and see how it works in practice.
    Classic "i am all for x unless it affects me" scenes from this man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    Watching Warren battle the fed and Wall Street democrats will be entertaining. Are there any Bernie-esque lefties but 20 years younger coming through? Someone to bridge the gap between him and AOC
    I don't know honestly. I think the Bernie Bro/Warren Women are a growing Demographic here, but apart from the quite young AOC crowdm I'm not sure there are alot of already-in-place folks to help carry the torch.

    Hence why I think she'll get some things done, the more moderate-left ideas that do in fact have some really strong bipartisan (voter, not elected official) support. The more aggressive stuff, no, not in the short term. Maybe the longer term tho if she's good at being President.
    One thing I like about her, from the interviews I've seen, she really truly seems to despise predatory business practices. Payday loans, bad mortages, that kind of stuff.
    Agreed. Her sense of Justice is not in any way misplaced I think. She loathes the truly rich, of course, but frankly those fuckers probably deserve to be hated.

    My concern is the same as it always is: That "the rich" ends up being "People who make $100K", which isn't rich at all in many places.

    Keep it aimed at the billionaires and upper millionaires, I'm willing to go along, give it a chance, and see how it works in practice.
    Classic "i am all for x unless it affects me" scenes from this man.
    In every American community there are varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the liberals. An outspoken group on many subjects—ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally. Here, then, is a lesson in safe logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    Mulvaney confirmed the existence of a quid pro quo and offered this retort: "Get over it."

    "We do that all the time with foreign policy," Mulvaney said of the influence of politics in the Trump administration.
    I can imagine no crime for were this response couldn't be used by this administration.
    Then he tried to walk it back a few hours later. Amazing scenes.
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